Russia Destroys Banned Western Food By The Ton

With a 90% approval rating, I think it will be a while before Putin has to worry about that. And considering that a delegation from France recently went to see for themselves how things are going in Crimea and even the Tatars who were worried initially, are beginning to relax and appreciate the improvements in their situation since Crimea returned and that delation said everything seemed A-ok, I'd say he's doing alright.

I also would have rather he distributed it to those who are in need, but I suppose he felt he needed to make a very strong point about a number of things. Smuggling isn't acceptable, the corruption that went along with it isn't acceptable , that Russia can take care of meeting its own needs, and most importantly, if a country is going to lay sanctions against Russia, they too will feel the pinch.

Besides, aren't most Americans in favour of 'buy American'. Well I guess this is the Russian version of 'buy Russian'.

The same criticism could be levelled at the FDA for all the raw milk that is poured down the drain by the FDA. That could have been used to help those who are in need also.
 
You get a free pass Debby, there is so many points I could attack that I have decided to simply allow you your thoughts without interfering.
 

You know what would be a better way for all countries to operate? Just like Hugo Chavez did in 2005 when he gave cheap or even free heating oil to 200,000 families in America's midwest to help them get through a long cold winter when prices were rising to a degree that made it impossible or difficult for those families to stay warm. He saw a need and he reached out. That's what we should all be doing. After all, we live in a 'global village' these days with communication and travel making distance of little importance. Like Rodney King once famously said, "Can't we all just get along?"



http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1870219,00.html
 
Debby said:
You know what would be a better way for all countries to operate? Just like Hugo Chavez did in 2005 when he gave cheap or even free heating oil to 200,000 families in America's midwest to help them get through a long cold winter when prices were rising to a degree that made it impossible or difficult for those families to stay warm. He saw a need and he reached out. That's what we should all be doing. After all, we live in a 'global village' these days with communication and travel making distance of little importance. Like Rodney King once famously said, "Can't we all just get along?"

I thought Russia was no longer Mother Russia. Although they do seem to have a mother in charge.

http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1870219,00.html
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90% approval rating? Who did the survey-the government run by an ex Cold War Ex KGB agent? Food is food, food is universal. True a crime was committed by smuggling it into the country where prohibited but at least put the confiscations to practical use.
 
AZ Jim said:
You get a free pass Debby, there is so many points I could attack that I have decided to simply allow you your thoughts without interfering.
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Go for it. How can you attack a country's right to sovereignty or a government setting laws in place and then requiring people to abide by them? I guess you could look at the raw milk issue being one case of America putting laws in place and requiring adherence to them and some people finding a way around it, but on the other hand, the milk wasn't being 'sold' as the cows that produced it were 'leased' by someone(groups) other than the farmers who housed them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/world/europe/france-lawmakers-visit-crimea-russia.html?_r=0 This link to the New York Times, quotes the French delegation as saying: "....In all, 10 members of Parliament made the trip. Eight were members of the Republicans, one was from another center-right party and one from a center-left party. A Republicans lawmaker, Thierry Mariani, led the group......“We saw happy people,” said Marie-Christine Dalloz, one of the lawmakers, according to a translation in Ria-Novosti, a Russian news service. “We talked to young people. The picture is surprisingly different than the one we were shown,” she said.

Washington Post article on his 89% (sorry, I was wrong) approval rating. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/06/24/putins-approval-ratings-hit-89-percent-the-highest-theyve-ever-been/
 
WhatInThe said:
90% approval rating? Who did the survey-the government run by an ex Cold War Ex KGB agent? Food is food, food is universal. True a crime was committed by smuggling it into the country where prohibited but at least put the confiscations to practical use.
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A Washington Post article on Putin's approval rating https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-hit-89-percent-the-highest-theyve-ever-been/ By the way, I believe your presidents approval rating right now is about 62%.



Polling in Russia was done by the Levada Centre and from their website, I took the following:

Levada Analytical Center (Levada Center) is a Russian non-governmental research organization. The Centre regularly conducts sociological research. Levada-Center is one of the largest Russian centers in the field.

Staff of the center brings together experts in the field of sociology, political science, economics, psychology, market research, public opinion polls and organization of data processing. The team is guided by the principles of WAPOR and ESOMAR. Senior staff have been trained in the USA and Western Europe. The research team has been conducting regular public opinion polls across the country since 1988.

Levada Center has the network of 67 regional offices and maintains partnerships with centers of public opinion research in the CIS and Baltic countries.
Polling results and expertise of the Center’s staff appears is broadly covered by national and international media such as Kommersant, Vedomosti, Gazeta.ru, the Economist, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Reuters, BBC Radio, Radio Liberty, and others.


http://www.levada.ru/eng/levada-center The group that did the polling

As it is a non-governmental body it isn't required to adhere to Kremlin propaganda and apparently it's research is acceptable to the standards of the Economist, The Wall Street Journal, etc.
Also, contrary to popular ideas, the Kremlin doesn't force everyone to 'say nice things' about them. I read the Moscow Times periodically and they regularly criticize and print unflattering stories about the current government and I read it as a counterbalance to RT which stands for Russia Today which also comments on happenings in the US and in the UK.
 
Debby said:
Polling in Russia was done by the Levada Centre and from their website, I took the following:

Levada Analytical Center (Levada Center) is a Russian non-governmental research organization. The Centre regularly conducts sociological research. Levada-Center is one of the largest Russian centers in the field.

Staff of the center brings together experts in the field of sociology, political science, economics, psychology, market research, public opinion polls and organization of data processing. The team is guided by the principles of WAPOR and ESOMAR. Senior staff have been trained in the USA and Western Europe. The research team has been conducting regular public opinion polls across the country since 1988.

Levada Center has the network of 67 regional offices and maintains partnerships with centers of public opinion research in the CIS and Baltic countries.
Polling results and expertise of the Center’s staff appears is broadly covered by national and international media such as Kommersant, Vedomosti, Gazeta.ru, the Economist, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Reuters, BBC Radio, Radio Liberty, and others.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/06/24/putins-approval-ratings-hit-89-percent-the-highest-theyve-ever-been/


http://www.levada.ru/eng/levada-center The group that did the polling

As it is a non-governmental body it isn't required to adhere to Kremlin propaganda and apparently it's research is acceptable to the standards of the Economist, The Wall Street Journal, etc.
Also, contrary to popular ideas, the Kremlin doesn't force everyone to 'say nice things' about them. I read the Moscow Times periodically and they regularly criticize and print unflattering stories about the current government.
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Maybe the Kremlin isn't currently eliciting positive response but this is a country where a large percentage of the population lived in a era when they did have to give a positive response or opinion if they were even allowed to participate in a "survey". And places like Siberia were/are fresh in mind.
 
Seriously???? So the article from the Washington Post who apparently are content with the way the Levada Centre operates and their results, isn't good enough huh. And you're even going to dismiss the fact that the Moscow Times isn't hesitant to print stories critical of Putin and that government? Your own 'government propaganda' is sufficient. Well you can't please everyone right?

I guess I'm just different from you in that when my government says things, I seldom just accept them but choose instead to check and double check those statements. Which is why I took the time to read three biographies about Putin, numerous of his rather lengthy speeches, a number of interviews that he did with foreign (German) news outlets and the Q & A events at the Valdai Centre which saw him being asked questions by foreign correspondents and past EU politicians as well as Russians involved in journalism and other Russian industries. I also spent some time researching the few conflicts that Russia has been involved in since the break up of the Soviet Union, each of which pertained to past USSR member states. Like S. Ossetia and Georgia and Chechnya which by the way is still part of Russia.
 
Debby said:
A Washington Post article on Putin's approval rating https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-hit-89-percent-the-highest-theyve-ever-been/ By the way, I believe your presidents approval rating right now is about 62%.
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Depending on which polls you watch. Rasmussen is not so generous.

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Tuesday, August 11, 2015


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oakapple said:
You know what AZ? my thoughts entirely.
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You and Jim have a right to a different opinion. I've made a point of being pretty clear why I think Putin has been more of a world 'diplomat' than Western leaders but I'd be interested in hearing your reasons for your differing opinion. I try to remain open minded but if you can present good information I'd certainly consider it.


Hey Bob, I must have been thinking of an article that I read a while back that suggested that approval rating and yet in this link: http://jpupdates.com/2015/04/13/obamas-approval-among-jewish-americans-drops-to-54/ it would appear that that high was back around 2009. So my mistake, you're right.
 

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