I still like the old washers better. I had to purchase a new one just a few years ago and it had so much computer stuff in it, it never did operate correctly. I returned it and purchased a refurbished machine like the old ones we used to have. There is no computer or fancy electronics in it! I had a repair man here working on my dish washer and he had advised me which brand of washer to purchase when he was here another time. He looked at the refurbished machine and said it was a good machine. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I just don't like all of this fancy stuff especially in a washer.