San Francisco's free alcohol to homeless creating a controversy

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San Francisco is offering free alcohol in the form of beer and vodka shots in an experimental effort to keep homeless off the streets, out of jail etc. One of the complaints is the program doesn't attach a rehab component to the program. It just free alcohol. Supposedly it's been tried in Canada with mixed results.

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Otherwise known as enabling.
 

If this idea could talk it would say:
Fucking Go Nuts - Etsy
 

What is the Managed Alcohol Program in San Francisco?
The Managed Alcohol Program in San Francisco is a city-funded initiative where nurses give controlled doses of alcohol to homeless individuals with chronic alcoholism to reduce their need for emergency medical attention or involvement with law enforcement. How much does San Francisco spend on the Managed Alcohol Program annually? San Francisco spends approximately $5 million annually on the Managed Alcohol Program. What are the goals of the Managed Alcohol Program? The goals of the Managed Alcohol Program include reducing the number of emergency room visits and encounters with police among the homeless population struggling with alcoholism.
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Whether or not this program achieves it's objective, you can be sure that trying to "do good" will be met with criticism from the usual do nothing quarters.
 
How much are they giving them? If they're on the streets because they're alcoholic won't a beer or one shot just make their craving worse? Like giving me one Frito when I'm on a diet? Or does it make the serious withdrawal symptoms better? Is that how they save on emergency room visit? It might be a good idea if that's it.

I'm with Nathan. it's worth a try.
 
Alcoholism is a difficult problem and is outrageously expensive for ERs, hospitals and emergency personnel to manage.

I bear no grudge against San Francisco for trying to reduce the pressure on the above services by providing a little alcohol to hardened, homeless alcoholics.

Indeed, I sincerely hope they find some success in early days and are able to refine the program to where some of these folks will enter rehab and get their lives back on track.
 
I once worked for a govt AOD org who were brave enough in the day 30 yrs ago maybe to at least introduce talks to their professional staff about - controlled drinking treatment options for certain clients - they talked about it but I don't think clinically they ever tried it - it was a sorta taster topic for budding AOD workers in the day. But I imagine there is a tonne of research about such clinical experiments re same on the net? - I've been out of the game a long while and still drinking!! cheers
 
This program costs 5M a year to run. The cost alone is concerning. Perhaps recovery programs should be the goal. This must be incorrect but I read it has served only 65 clients total.
 
So when are they delivering my truck load of chips and vegan palm free cookies?

Seriously though, these people are drinking for a reason. And I'm in pretty good agreement with chic's comment. So leave them in their tent laying on cardboard and just give them the booze to keep them out of the ER? I do believe some of these souls are beyond hope for any kind of recovery. But what about those that could be helped? 5 million doesn't go far with programs to help people, so could it be better utilized.
 
it came and went professionally I think and no one seemed to come up with any research to substantiate any success - and as I say 30 yrs ago I saw it for the first time
 
Remy said:
So when are they delivering my truck load of chips and vegan palm free cookies?

Seriously though, these people are drinking for a reason. And I'm in pretty good agreement with chic's comment. So leave them in their tent laying on cardboard and just give them the booze to keep them out of the ER? I do believe some of these souls are beyond hope for any kind of recovery. But what about those that could be helped? 5 million doesn't go far with programs to help people, so could it be better utilized.
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bit like handing out free tranqulizer pills?
 
Naturally said:
Well that's one way to control the areas of San Francisco they occupy and congregate in.
Don't think they will be handing out free booze in Presidio Heights or Seacliff.
Free booze never cured alcoholism or homelessness ... you heard it here first folks.
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don't think anyone on this thread mentioned a cure??
 
I worked in the 'industry' for 20 yrs never seen 'a cure' but did experience cures occuring through different means than tabs or controlled drinking
 
https://screenrant.com/brave-new-world-soma-drug-uses-purpose-explained/

the author seemed to have predicted society's pill addiction, which remains a problem to this day. The leaders of New London don't want citizens to be free-thinkers, which is why they hammer down the importance of soma. Unfortunately, John the Savage (Alden Ehrenreich) is against soma and manages to convince others to throw away the drug and speak freely.
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Sure smells similar, and dope "legalization" has a kindred aroma.
 
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