Schizophrenia linked to marijuana use disorder is on the rise

OneEyedDiva said:
These days one never knows what's in the marijuana they get in the streets. I've heard stories about it being laced with some wicked stuff, some of which turned out to be deadly. i'm told put even smells different than it used to.
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Brings up the issue in some places where it's legal users frequently are still going to the street for their pot. They want or are used to what ever is in it. Along with lower prices
 

AnnieA said:
Consistent overuse of alcohol causes physical dependency even without psychological predisposition to addiction that results in severe (even life-threatening) physiological withdrawal symptoms. While someone psychologically addicted to THC might not be at all a happy person stopping abruptly, they don't suffer comparable physiological withdrawal symptoms to that of alcohol dependency withdrawal.
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Consistent overuse of alcohol also does bad things to your brain, liver and who knows what else. I am not sure they've given much study to what the long term use of pot does to other organs.
 
JonDouglas said:
From KITV4:

(CNN) -- The proportion of schizophrenia cases linked with problematic use of marijuana has increased over the past 25 years, according to a new study from Denmark. In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found.​
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"I think it is highly important to use both our study and other studies to highlight and emphasize that cannabis use is not harmless," said Carsten Hjorthøj, an associate professor at the Copenhagen Research Center for Mental Health and an author of the study published in the medical journal JAMA Psychiatry, via email.​
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"There is, unfortunately, evidence to suggest that cannabis is increasingly seen as a somewhat harmless substance. This is unfortunate, since we see links with schizophrenia, poorer cognitive function, substance use disorders, etc," Hjorthøj wrote. - More at source.​
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Common sense might suggest that anything that alters you cognitive ability and sensory input might not be that good for you in the longer term.
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Like alcohol use, excluding the "rubbing" type? :D
 

I don't believe the current "War ON Drugs" is doing much. The long prison sentences are just encouraging more and more violent behaviors. The badder you are the more people fear ratting you out. The elicit drug business drains huge amounts of capital from our economy, with little to show for it. I believe all drug use should be legalized. I know some will think this a crazy idea, it will create lots of people on drugs. Yes, it will, but what about the the millions, and millions, who are using elicit drugs, right now. This is not a perfectly ideal society, in which we live . People have been using drugs for thousands of year. And the reason is we like doing it. What should, and ought to be may be a goal, but we have to deal with what is. Yes, we have elicit drug use, and we will continue to have elicit drug use. We can endure the murders, crime, and devastation of our neighborhoods, or realize that the current attempt to control drug use has failed, terribly. By decriminalizing drug does not solve our dependence on elicit drugs, but it removes the criminal element, and the host of terrors they brings with it. It's a way to stop the killing in our streets. And yes, unrestrained drug use will bring more addicts and other medical problems, but it not like we aren't suffering from that , now.
 
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JonDouglas said:
From KITV4:

(CNN) -- The proportion of schizophrenia cases linked with problematic use of marijuana has increased over the past 25 years, according to a new study from Denmark. In 1995, 2% of schizophrenia diagnoses in the country were associated with cannabis use disorder. In 2000, it increased to around 4%. Since 2010, that figure increased to 8%, the study found.​
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"I think it is highly important to use both our study and other studies to highlight and emphasize that cannabis use is not harmless," said Carsten Hjorthøj, an associate professor at the Copenhagen Research Center for Mental Health and an author of the study published in the medical journal JAMA Psychiatry, via email.​
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"There is, unfortunately, evidence to suggest that cannabis is increasingly seen as a somewhat harmless substance. This is unfortunate, since we see links with schizophrenia, poorer cognitive function, substance use disorders, etc," Hjorthøj wrote. - More at source.​
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Common sense might suggest that anything that alters you cognitive ability and sensory input might not be that good for you in the longer term.
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I am trying to compose an answer to the above...I am thinking...really I am!
 
FYI, the CBD that I use does not get you high in any way.

In fact, from a Harvard blog (https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/cannabidiol-cbd-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-2018082414476)
How is cannabidiol different from marijuana?
CBD stands for cannabidiol. It is the second most prevalent of the active ingredients of cannabis (marijuana). While CBD is an essential component of medical marijuana, it is derived directly from the hemp plant, which is a cousin of the marijuana plant. While CBD is a component of marijuana (one of hundreds), by itself it does not cause a "high." According to a report from the World Health Organization, "In humans, CBD exhibits no effects indicative of any abuse or dependence potential…. To date, there is no evidence of public health related problems associated with the use of pure CBD."
 
The above said, I do not smear CBD all over my body, or legs, etc. Just a little dot on the affected area works wonders. (And I rarely use it at all. I've had a small unopened container of it in my refrigerator for months and months.)

[Edited to add "unopened"]
 
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At first I was excited to be able to use medical marijuana but like before marijuana effected mood/thinking. How is it some people find marijuana pleasurable and purposeful?
 
To me it comes down to the desire for chemical intoxication. Which turns into a need for many. The desire or custom to get high in many situations still puzzles. I was always puzzled by drinkers on boats, even the small boats. You mean to say the ocean, sun, fish, wind isn't good enough. Same for a sporting event. I can see some eating and drinking but now people attend a game they can feast of volume, finer dining etc. To much co mingling of experiences/events I guess but it's that desire for hours of self gratification.
 
WhatInThe said:
To me it comes down to the desire for chemical intoxication. Which turns into a need for many. The desire or custom to get high in many situations still puzzles. I was always puzzled by drinkers on boats, even the small boats. You mean to say the ocean, sun, fish, wind isn't good enough. Same for a sporting event. I can see some eating and drinking but now people attend a game they can feast of volume, finer dining etc. To much co mingling of experiences/events I guess but it's that desire for hours of self gratification.
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For some reason that might seem odd to others, I always thought life itself was a big enough high without the need for intoxicants. But then, I was fortunate to be healthy and not to have been born into a totally dysfunctional family or one of privilege. We were quite poor after the war and the environment was rather strict without being obsessively so. The only time I got plastered was in Berlin Germany and that was unpleasant enough to never do it again.
 
The link between marijuana and schizophrenia has been suspected and talked about for years. I'm glad to see they're doing some solid studies. Another effect that's been observed is the occasional act of violence, while under it's influence, by previously non-violent people.

I read this last year and thought it was a real eye opener.
https://www.amazon.com/Tell-Your-Children-Marijuana-Violence/dp/1982103663
 
Devi said:
FYI, the CBD that I use does not get you high in any way.

In fact, from a Harvard blog (https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/cannabidiol-cbd-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-2018082414476)
How is cannabidiol different from marijuana?
CBD stands for cannabidiol. It is the second most prevalent of the active ingredients of cannabis (marijuana). While CBD is an essential component of medical marijuana, it is derived directly from the hemp plant, which is a cousin of the marijuana plant. While CBD is a component of marijuana (one of hundreds), by itself it does not cause a "high." According to a report from the World Health Organization, "In humans, CBD exhibits no effects indicative of any abuse or dependence potential…. To date, there is no evidence of public health related problems associated with the use of pure CBD."
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I have never understood the differences between marijuana plant and hemp plant. Have to do a little research.
 
JonDouglas said:
For some reason that might seem odd to others, I always thought life itself was a big enough high without the need for intoxicants. But then, I was fortunate to be healthy and not to have been born into a totally dysfunctional family or one of privilege. We were quite poor after the war and the environment was rather strict without being obsessively so. The only time I got plastered was in Berlin Germany and that was unpleasant enough to never do it again.
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Actually that's how nature intended it. Unpleasurable experience is supposed to be a learning experience. The consequences taught you and me because I can count bathroom trip hangovers on one hand with fingers left over. Addicts ignore consequence.

When people want alcohol with everything they do that tells me they are probably alcoholic or approaching it fast. And being intoxicated they miss the natural beauty in things or dont learn to appreciate the small things because every experience must be a high to them. Or don't get to see all the history in a place like Germany.
 

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