Selling Religion At My Front Door

Pinky said:
It sounds as though the Witnesses you were in touch with, had more open minds. Those I've met, didn't .. it was, either follow Jehovah - or end up in Hell.
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Maybe, they said nothing about hell to me, i also, being in Utah, get a lot of LDS.
 

Let me tell you a very
important part of my story ...

My youngest son was 10 pounds when he was born so he was almost like a 2 month old when he was born ..he was healthy baby till he was 6. months old , he then developed an allergy to all milk products and was in and out of hospital for 3 weeks and lost heaps of weight ...remember this was a 6 month old child he looked like a starving child his face / body went from chubby to skin and bone ....
His nick name was Pud cause he was a chubby little boy before he got sick

anyway ex must have told “the elders “ and THEY decided the best thing to do was to let Jehova take care of Darryl and let him die ...and we all know about the transfusion stuff with the JW they wouldn’t allow Darryl to have anything in the way of a drip let alone blood 🩸

So I hatched a plan I’d go and pick up my son from the hospital at 8 pm ( I had to walk 10 km to get there ) and get on the bus and take him to the women’s and children’s hospital in Adelaide ,arriving there at 11pm at night ( the bus dropped me at the door ) My son had very little time to live when I was arrived at the hospital :cry::cry: according to the Dr I seen at the hospital

He was put on ventilators and all sorts of drips and tried on soy milk ..which agreed with him
he spent a month in hospital and i stayed in the nurses quarters at the hospital .

When I returned home I was not permitted to enter the home as I was deemed as wickard for disobeying “the head of the house “ by saving my sons life .....I never lived in the home again
My son is now a healthy 46 year old ...... and he still has a few issues with milk products
I rarely see him cause he lives ...Mmmmm not sure how far away but it’s a long way but still in SA
but I spoke to him a week ago on his birthday
 
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Kadee46 said:
Let me tell you a short but very important part of my story ....
My youngest son was 10 pounds when he was born so he was almost like a 2 month old when he was born ..he was healthy baby till he was 6. months old , he then developed an allergy to all milk products and was in and out of hospital for 3 weeks and lost heaps of weight ...remember this was a 6 month old child ....His nick name was Pud cause he was a chubby little boy before he got sick

anyway ex must have told “the elders “ and they decided thr best thing to do was to let Jehova take care of Darryl and let him die ...

So I hatched a plan I’d go and pick up my son from the hospital at 8 pm and get on the bus and take him to the women’s and children’s hospital in Adelaide ,arriving there at 11pm at night ( the bus dropped me at the door ) My son had very little time to live when I was arrived at the hospital :cry::cry: according to the hospital

He was put on ventilators and all sorts of drips and tried on soy milk ..which agreed with him
he spent a month in hospital and i stayed in the nurses quarters at the hospital .

When I returned home I was not permitted to enter the home as I was deemed as wickard for disobeying “the head of the house “ by saving my sons life .....I never lived in the home again
My son is now a healthy 46 year old ...... and he still has a few issues with milk products
I rarely see him cause he lives ...Mmmmm not sure how far away but it’s a long way but still in SA
but I spoke to him a week ago on his birthday
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What a terrible ordeal for you to have to take on alone, @Kadee46. You stayed at hospital for an entire month? This is another practice of the JW's that I cannot agree with.
 

Yes I did @Pinky my ex took care of the other kids then kicked us all out when I got back
I was lucky to get a job in a farm with a house where I stayed till 1986 when I met my husband
Its kinda a long story but I was working for the manager of the job centre‘s ( wife ) and she recommended me for the farm job.
 
Kadee46 said:
Yes I did @Pinky my ex took care of the other kids then kicked us all out when I got back
I was lucky to get a job in a farm with a house where I stayed till 1986 when I met my husband
Its kinda a long story but I was working for the manager of the job centre‘s ( wife ) and she recommended me for the farm job.
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So glad you had somewhere to go, @Kadee46 .. and that it all worked out for you. No doubt you worked very hard for your family. You deserve every happiness that comes your way.
 
Many years ago, I was reloading some ammunition in my garage. My young son was helping by putting the empty brass into shell holders. Two JW's stopped by, and commented it was so nice to see a boy help his father. They asked what we were doing, and I said,"Loading .45 caliber ammunition" They immediately left
 
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I do have a conversation with them. I start telling them about something I had just learned, in my belief system, and that they should look it up. They had never heard of what I was telling them, and all I do is go forward in explaining it. They then leave and I have shared a part of my belief. I also listen to them.
 
Kadee46 said:
Let me tell you a very
important part of my story ...

My youngest son was 10 pounds when he was born so he was almost like a 2 month old when he was born ..he was healthy baby till he was 6. months old , he then developed an allergy to all milk products and was in and out of hospital for 3 weeks and lost heaps of weight ...remember this was a 6 month old child he looked like a starving child his face / body went from chubby to skin and bone ....
His nick name was Pud cause he was a chubby little boy before he got sick

anyway ex must have told “the elders “ and THEY decided the best thing to do was to let Jehova take care of Darryl and let him die ...and we all know about the transfusion stuff with the JW they wouldn’t allow Darryl to have anything in the way of a drip let alone blood 🩸

So I hatched a plan I’d go and pick up my son from the hospital at 8 pm ( I had to walk 10 km to get there ) and get on the bus and take him to the women’s and children’s hospital in Adelaide ,arriving there at 11pm at night ( the bus dropped me at the door ) My son had very little time to live when I was arrived at the hospital :cry::cry: according to the Dr I seen at the hospital

He was put on ventilators and all sorts of drips and tried on soy milk ..which agreed with him
he spent a month in hospital and i stayed in the nurses quarters at the hospital .

When I returned home I was not permitted to enter the home as I was deemed as wickard for disobeying “the head of the house “ by saving my sons life .....I never lived in the home again
My son is now a healthy 46 year old ...... and he still has a few issues with milk products
I rarely see him cause he lives ...Mmmmm not sure how far away but it’s a long way but still in SA
but I spoke to him a week ago on his birthday
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I am familiar with how it works. I don’t agree with the religion, but then there is stuff in my religion does that I am against. Most people pick a religion and then pick and chose within the religion except the fanatics of course. Glad your son is ok.
 
I only had them turn up once where I live now ....my first impression was they were rather nice people however I will never forget how I was treated / shamed / made homeless by this organisation for saving my sons life.

Ive never really even discussed the ordeal with my son, The children used to see their father on school holidays then as soon as the youngest was about 10 and my daughter was about 12 they made the decision not to ever see him again .....simply his own fault because he was scheming to not return the children after spending a week with him, ( he’d even been in centrelink ( welfare ) who pays family allowance and said he had the kids full time so they’d charged it over to him)

His reasons were he wanted to raise them in his religion , which they wanted no part of so they didn’t see him until they were in their late teens when he tuned up where we lived ..but they wouldn’t come out of the house to say hello to him ....I could go in and on but I won’t bore you all to tears :):)
 
Kadee46 said:
I only had them turn up once where I live now ....my first impression was they were rather nice people however I will never forget how I was treated / shamed / made homeless by this organisation for saving my sons life.

Ive never really even discussed the ordeal with my son, The children used to see their father on school holidays then as soon as the youngest was about 10 and my daughter was about 12 they made the decision not to ever see him again .....simply his own fault because he was scheming to not return the children after spending a week with him, ( he’d even been in centrelink ( welfare ) who pays family allowance and said he had the kids full time so they’d charged it over to him)

His reasons were he wanted to raise them in his religion , which they wanted no part of so they didn’t see him until they were in their late teens when he tuned up where we lived ..but they wouldn’t come out of the house to say hello to him ....I could go in and on but I won’t bore you all to tears :):)
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@Kadee46 It's outrageous how people use their children as pawns in order to receive money and scan the system. I saw it over there, and it happens here too :mad:
 
The idea of selling religion door to door or evangelizing in general, seems odd to me. I have long felt that a "program of attraction" makes much more sense because then, the people who would otherwise promote their belief system would actually have to live it so others could see it in action.

As an example, if there was somebody that I observed as always being kind and at peace, able to handle life as it comes, I would certainly want to know what that person's "secret" was.

On the other hand, if somebody was always telling me that if I didn't believe in the same things and in the same way that they did, I was certainly heading for eternal damnation, yet that person was rather caustic in his or her interactions or otherwise exhibiting issues in his or her life, the last thing I would want is to take on that belief system.

Tony
 
A sweet little old lady who used to live in my building was a Witness. She'd come down periodically and bring her pamphlets. At first I'd take them out of politeness. I eventually told her I'm Muslim and stopped taking them. Her son took her apartment when she moved down south with her daughter. I'm glad to know she's still alive and doing well as of when I spoke with him a couple of days ago.

Our building is locked and if someone rings my bell and I'm not expecting anyone, I don't answer. So I won't be having that issue again.
 
tbeltrans said:
The idea of selling religion door to door or evangelizing in general, seems odd to me. I have long felt that a "program of attraction" makes much more sense because then, the people who would otherwise promote their belief system would actually have to live it so others could see it in action.

As an example, if there was somebody that I observed as always being kind and at peace, able to handle life as it comes, I would certainly want to know what that person's "secret" was.

On the other hand, if somebody was always telling me that if I didn't believe in the same things and in the same way that they did, I was certainly heading for eternal damnation, yet that person was rather caustic in his or her interactions or otherwise exhibiting issues in his or her life, the last thing I would want is to take on that belief system.

Tony
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They are not ”selling” religion, they are, as their religion and beliefs command, spreading what they believe to be the true word of the God they believe in.
 
Kadee46 said:
I only had them turn up once where I live now ....my first impression was they were rather nice people however I will never forget how I was treated / shamed / made homeless by this organisation for saving my sons life.

Ive never really even discussed the ordeal with my son, The children used to see their father on school holidays then as soon as the youngest was about 10 and my daughter was about 12 they made the decision not to ever see him again .....simply his own fault because he was scheming to not return the children after spending a week with him, ( he’d even been in centrelink ( welfare ) who pays family allowance and said he had the kids full time so they’d charged it over to him)

His reasons were he wanted to raise them in his religion , which they wanted no part of so they didn’t see him until they were in their late teens when he tuned up where we lived ..but they wouldn’t come out of the house to say hello to him ....I could go in and on but I won’t bore you all to tears :):)
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You would not bore me. A story for you.

My mother belonged to the Church of the Open Door when they moved to garden grove in California, the church became very big and mother was a true believer. Oh, yes, she loved that church.

When our baby Matthew David died, we were very very poor. My brother loaned, yes loaned, us 500 for the funeral and expenses. I asked mother if one of the pastors from her church would say a few words at his funeral. She said no, get your own pastor. You are not a member of the church. Nope, I was not.

The pastor, we got, charged 75 dollars to say a few words. My husband, myself, the pastor, and God buried our son, my mother and step father didn’t show up. (Brother lived out of state but offered to come.)

I was asked, by my brother, if I was planning to go to mother‘s funeral when she died. Nope.
 
Aneeda72 said:
They are not ”selling” religion, they are, as their religion and beliefs command, spreading what they believe to be the true word of the God they believe in.
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Oh, I fully agree. Others made that reference including the thread title itself, so I just stayed within that parameter. No argument from me on that score. The Jehovah Witnesses that came to our door when we had our house were very sincere, though on one occasion one of them saw my synthesizer in the living room and we had a great conversation about that instead. :)

Tony
 
Aneeda72 said:
I am familiar with how it works. I don’t agree with the religion, but then there is stuff in my religion does that I am against. Most people pick a religion and then pick and chose within the religion except the fanatics of course. Glad your son is ok.
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My wife says that too. I got away from going to church altogether, but she still goes. I won't go into all that because it isn't relevant here, but what you said hits the nail on the head, so to speak.

Tony
 
I know a lady (We knew / know her and her late husband through dancing )

shes been with the same religion for many years think it’s uniting church
They only accept plastic card donations yep that have their own tap and go system
That’s so they can keep an eye on what your giving :rolleyes:
 
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Religion is dangerous, when religious authority undermines and takes advantage of followers, yet we go on excusing authority time after time because we are taught to do so. Why do think authority tells us to forgive? Forgiveness is extremely helpful, but it doesn’t rectify the fact of being used by authority.

Religion isolates groups of people for a common cause, imagine a large church congregation fired up in a frenzy to eradicate prisoners from incarceration because all men and women deserve to be free. Justice will be served in the afterlife.

Isolated groups of people under the right influence are capable of carrying out despicable acts of violence if incentive outweighs the consequences.
 

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