Shelter for the massive amount of illegal migrants & America's homeless

The problem is that the people on our border, and on borders throughout the world are not "the unwashed", "them", and every other derogatory name. They are fellow human beings. No, of course not, we cannot allow mass migration. Yet, if we let one border person in, I don't think we need to shove somebody out. It does seem hypocritical to decry 100,000 South Americans on our border but allow 100,000 Ukrainian refugees in without the nation bursting at the seams.
 
The amount of Russians & Ukrainians who overstayed their travel visas and have lived here for decades is astounding. Chinese too. Yet no one looks at them.
 
People are forced to emigrate when facing extreme poverty, life-threatening gang and other violence, repeated flooding that destroys their homes and habitats, unbearably oppressive governments, war-torn homelands, and other untenable conditions.

When dealing with existential threats, people risk life and limb. What choice do they have but to pack themselves into rickety boats that get storm-tossed in rough seas, cross rushing rivers that may take them down, suffer from exposure to climate and weather elements, often paying human smugglers who they know may kill, enslave, rob or abandon them?

Truly, they have little to lose. It's not necessarily that they want to be in the US, or the UK, or any specific place. They just know they need to leave where they were.

This isn't to suggest that governments would be wise to have open borders, welcoming all who want to immigrate to their countries.

That said, we should have greater compassion for those whose situations are so desperate. There, but for the grace of God and accidents of birth, go you and I.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
The problem is that the people on our border, and on borders throughout the world are not "the unwashed", "them", and every other derogatory name. They are fellow human beings. No, of course not, we cannot allow mass migration. Yet, if we let one border person in, I don't think we need to shove somebody out. It does seem hypocritical to decry 100,000 South Americans on our border but allow 100,000 Ukrainian refugees in without the nation bursting at the seams.
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Try about 2.4 million people from Central and South America. This year. The issue isn't whether they should or shouldn't be allowed in, it's that we have no mechanism for handling such an influx.
 
Pepper said:
The amount of Russians & Ukrainians who overstayed their travel visas and have lived here for decades is astounding. Chinese too. Yet no one looks at them.
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People who enter the US with travel visas are contacted by the INS when they overstay. People who enter without one can become invisible. It's like a super-power.

The INS is 18 months - 2 years behind on processing. Not enough staff. I don't know how that happens when unemployment is so high. But also the process became way too complex after 9-11.
 
People who come on work visas often have skills that are in demand in the U.S., such as in tech and medical care. People who flee third world countries are often overly religious, unskilled, and with several children. Those are the types of people at our southern border right now, and many of them are going to be a burden to our welfare system once they get in.

Why don't they settle in Mexico instead of coming all the way up here? That's regarding the immigrants from Central America who are seeking asylum.
 
SeniorBen said:
People who come on work visas often have skills that are in demand in the U.S., such as in tech and medical care. People who flee third world countries are often overly religious, unskilled, and with several children. Those are the types of people at our southern border right now, and many of them are going to be a burden to our welfare system once they get in.

Why don't they settle in Mexico instead of coming all the way up here? That's regarding the immigrants from Central America who are seeking asylum.
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Mexico won't support them. They have to work.
 
Knight said:
This was NOT meant to be political. Most if not all disregarded the part about the homeless in San Francisco.

The federal gov. has done nothing about homeless yet can find money to shelter, feed & care for the health of people entering America illegally. I'd rather my tax dollars be spent helping the homeless.

And more importantly actually do something about the influx of illegal migrants. Blocking them completely could be done the resources are there just not the will to take preventive action.
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The homeless is the dark side of life. May God bless all homeless people in America and all over the world.
 
Apparently there is a $500m (million!) contract proposal to build immigrant housing on the border Mexico/US. The US side, of course. DHS (Dept. of Homeland Security) is reviewing this.

What that tells me is that the government has accepted the fact that this massive migration is permanent, and that the government is resigned to accept that as fact. Bad idea.

What I do not see is any long-term plan for where the government wants to be regarding immigration fifty years from now. Best I can hope for as a taxpayer is a four-year plan, and that is usually nipped to a two-year in most instances. At this rate there will never be a solution put in place-other than to continue to exhaust precious resources on a never-ending problem that no one has the courage or will to fix.

Me, I'd put the whole lot of immigrants and homeless under the Army Corps of Engineers and get them to rebuilding the sagging infrastructure in this country. 3 hots and a cot in tent city. Mobile and moveable as was built the transcontinental railroad in the nineteenth century.

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A nation's rich and elite don't emigrate in massive numbers. Only the poor and destitute desire to get out of Dodge. So massive immigration is a factor of what is going on in their native land. The more dire the situation, the greater the desire to flee. Whether or not there is a 'welcome mat" seems to be irrelevant to the emigrants, when extermination is a threat. That poses a problem for any host nation, what the hell to do with them? Do you allow large portions of humanity to perish on your borders? Do you allow an influx of humanity in? Unfortunately, the answer seems to depend more on the political relationship of the host nation to the emigrating nation.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
A nation's rich and elite don't emigrate in massive numbers. Only the poor and destitute desire to get out of Dodge. So massive immigration is a factor of what is going on in their native land. The more dire the situation, the greater the desire to flee. Whether or not there is a 'welcome mat" seems to be irrelevant to the emigrants, when extermination is a threat. That poses a problem for any host nation, what the hell to do with them? Do you allow large portions of humanity to perish on your borders? Do you allow an influx of humanity in? Unfortunately, the answer seems to depend more on the political relationship of the host nation to the emigrating nation.
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Very true.
 
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