Shootings And Murders Just Continue!

ClassicRockr

ClassicRockr

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16 yr old Texas student shot and killed by another student for helping break up a fight/defending one student.

On Saturday night, two NYPD Officers, sitting in a patrol van in a high crime/drug area of the Bronx. A man approaches them, seemingly wanting directions, pulls out a gun and shoots. Both Officers will be ok, but driver did get shot.

Sunday morning, a man walks into NY/Bronx Precinct and opens fire. A 15 yr veteran Lieutenant was shot in the arm. Other Officers shot back, but didn't hit the suspect. NYPD Commissioner said, "The suspect, a man who was paroled from prison three years ago is believed to be behind both attacks in the Bronx. At this time we are confident he is the same person who attempted to assassinate our police officers last night."
The Commissioner described the suspect as a career criminal who wanted to assassinate police officers.
He also stated that the man was convicted after carjacking a vehicle and getting into a gun fight with members of the NYPD in 2002. He was paroled from prison in 2017. He has one additional arrest since then and had a court appearance scheduled in the coming day.

Just when will these shooting/murders/killings stop or at the very least, slow down. Everyday-to-every weekend someone is being shot/injured or killed in America. What is so funny, and interesting, people are still moving to these cities where numerous shootings take place. IOW, money talks more than crime.
 

Lc jones said:
I have very strong opinions on the subject but I will not post them on this forum.
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Well, you don't have to get that strong with your opinions. I mean, I did do the thread and in doing it, I believe anyone would know how wife and I feel about this.
 
Probably has been happening for a very long time.....It's there are more people watching TV and alll the nonsense that goes on in
Face book...(I don't do that) and the newspapers...….. There has been shootings and killing's going on for a very long time in my life time...
If you live in a city, the nonsense goes on every day.....
 
peppermint said:
Probably has been happening for a very long time.....It's there are more people watching TV and alll the nonsense that goes on in
Face book...(I don't do that) and the newspapers...….. There has been shootings and killing's going on for a very long time in my life time...
If you live in a city, the nonsense goes on every day.....
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It can definitely depend on what city. Like Bozeman, Montana, Cody, Wyoming and others where there is virtually no crime. Even where we live, most of the crime is a DUI, shoplifting, outdated registration tags and such. There are folks here that don't even want to drive down to Denver. Denver to them is "the Colorado version of Los Angeles" and we have been told that.
 
ClassicRockr said:
It can definitely depend on what city. Like Bozeman, Montana, Cody, Wyoming and others where there is virtually no crime. Even where we live, most of the crime is a DUI, shoplifting, outdated registration tags and such. There are folks here that don't even want to drive down to Denver. Denver to them is "the Colorado version of Los Angeles" and we have been told that.
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Hi....I've never been to that part of the country...We traveled a lot at our early age,....I do remember years ago my parents took a trip around
the United States....Montana and Wyoming is why I am writing this....Mom and Dad started from New Jersey, it was the time they didn't have
phones, they only had maps....I was terrified of to 60 year old's driving around the country....We had to wait a couple of day's for them to get
in touch with us....They were in Wyoming...At a bar and my dad was making firiends with everybody...Dad was in the Army and National Guard
for 40 years....They went traveling when he retired....They decided to stay another day....My Mom made friend's with a lady that lived near the
bar and invited them to sleep there...But Mom didn't want to, but she said the lady was so nice...Anyway they left Montana and Wyoming and
went to California to see Mom's cousin....They were gone a Month....Then to New Mexico to see my Aunt for a few days....
Then to Florida and and up to New Jersey....All with a Map....I laugh everytime I tell this story....
 
peppermint said:
Hi....I've never been to that part of the country...We traveled a lot at our early age,....I do remember years ago my parents took a trip around
the United States....Montana and Wyoming is why I am writing this....Mom and Dad started from New Jersey, it was the time they didn't have
phones, they only had maps....I was terrified of to 60 year old's driving around the country....We had to wait a couple of day's for them to get
in touch with us....They were in Wyoming...At a bar and my dad was making firiends with everybody...Dad was in the Army and National Guard
for 40 years....They went traveling when he retired....They decided to stay another day....My Mom made friend's with a lady that lived near the
bar and invited them to sleep there...But Mom didn't want to, but she said the lady was so nice...Anyway they left Montana and Wyoming and
went to California to see Mom's cousin....They were gone a Month....Then to New Mexico to see my Aunt for a few days....
Then to Florida and and up to New Jersey....All with a Map....I laugh everytime I tell this story....
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Funny, but there were many, many people in Jacksonville, Florida, that we told we were moving back here, that didn't even know where Colorado was, let alone any of the other Rocky Mountain and Plains States were. However, they did know where all of the Southern States, East Coast States and States like Ohio and Michigan were. Heck, when we lived in Colorado before, we never once heard about any of the hurricanes or tropical storms that hit in Florida, the East Coast or Gulf Coast.
 
It's a rare day when there isn't a murder reported in most mid size, or larger cities. Between the increases in drug use, and stressful living conditions, more and more of these mass shootings are a real possibility. A substantial number of people are "living on the edge", and almost anything could trigger them to commit such acts of violence.
 
ClassicRockr said:
It can definitely depend on what city. Like Bozeman, Montana, Cody, Wyoming and others where there is virtually no crime. Even where we live, most of the crime is a DUI, shoplifting, outdated registration tags and such. There are folks here that don't even want to drive down to Denver. Denver to them is "the Colorado version of Los Angeles" and we have been told that.
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As Cody is one of the cities we are considering moving to, we have lots of stats concerning its crime rate. You are incorrect about Cody. While its crime rate is about half of that for the average US city, it is increasing, and definitely present. It is the fourth safest city in Wyoming.

Crime in Cody, Wyoming
Crime is ranked on a scale of 1 (low crime) to 100 (high crime)
Cody violent crime is 12.8. (The US average is 22.7)
Cody property crime is 29.9. (The US average is 35.4)
 
Ruthanne said:
All this craziness makes me want to stay inside where it's safe or at least I think it's safe.
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Yeah. But of course, we cannot. As soon as you drop out, you become a 'victim'. And, what we all tend to forget since shootings are constantly in the news, is that there are dozens of things that will most likely kill you, well before chances of getting shot. You have a 1in7 chance of dying from cancer or heart disease. You have a 1in7000 chance of dying from a 'firearm discharge'. Of course, those are 'averages' and change from area-to-area.
Personally, my greatest fear is driving. Too many drivers distracted, on some kind of substance, or just plain poor drivers who will just cut in front of anyone without looking.
 
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treeguy64 said:
As Cody is one of the cities we are considering moving to, we have lots of stats concerning its crime rate. You are incorrect about Cody. While its crime rate is about half of that for the average US city, it is increasing, and definitely present. It is the fourth safest city in Wyoming.

Crime in Cody, Wyoming
Crime is ranked on a scale of 1 (low crime) to 100 (high crime)
Cody violent crime is 12.8. (The US average is 22.7)
Cody property crime is 29.9. (The US average is 35.4)
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Ok, but it sure isn't like living in Los Angeles or an area where people hear police sirens all the time and/or a police helicopter overhead all of the time, day or night.
We've been in Cody, Douglas and Cheyenne. Basically, nothing happens in those places that would be on CNN or HLN. Not saying those places are "crime free", but comparing with some other places in the U.S., they sure seem "crime free".
 
ClassicRockr said:
Ok, but it sure isn't like living in Los Angeles or an area where people hear police sirens all the time and/or a police helicopter overhead all of the time, day or night.
We've been in Cody, Douglas and Cheyenne. Basically, nothing happens in those places that would be on CNN or HLN. Not saying those places are "crime free", but comparing with some other places in the U.S., they sure seem "crime free".
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Please don't stereotype Los Angeles. I've lived here all my adult life and rarely hear police sirens, and even more rarely hear police choppers overhead.

Aurora, Colorado; Parkland, Florida; Newtown, Connecticut; and dozens of other small towns were never in the national news, until someone snapped.

Don't be smug, CR. Nobody knows what's coming next.
 
The last time I had a fire arm in my hands was over 50 years ago in Navy Boot Camp. I had trouble hitting the mound of dirt behind the target. But things change. This morning I heard of this neighborhood program where cops and their families were going to be at the ice rink. The public was encouraged to come and meet them. The first thing that flashed through my mind was a bunch of unprotected cops in a enclosed arena made a great shooting opportunity. Why would I, a nonviolent pussy cat even think of such a thing? Maybe every 12 days there is a mass shooting? It's because anybody and his psychotic cousin can have access to weapons. When you have lawmakers writing stand your ground laws for fetuses, maybe the gun culture is too extreme.

Also, I don't think there is a saintliness that descends upon you if you live in the suburbs, and it does not descend on you if your zip code is in a city. Crime rates depend on the size of the population ,and the size of the community, not on heavenly intervention. There is nothing inherently saintly in your zip code.
 
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Don M. said:
It's a rare day when there isn't a murder reported in most mid size, or larger cities. Between the increases in drug use, and stressful living conditions, more and more of these mass shootings are a real possibility. A substantial number of people are "living on the edge", and almost anything could trigger them to commit such acts of violence.
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I think you're "spot on' regarding he state of affairs today but you left out one thing. 30 or 40 years ago, every yahoo, criminal or otherwise, wasn't packing a gun. And let's not get on the hunting thing. I'm talking about guns being pulled for domestic problems, traffic confrontations, almost any street confrontation.

At least where I live, on the outskirts of a city of 90,000 + people, shootings back then were a rarity and very few people were running around with weapons to "defend themselves". I also don't recall morons like that guy patrolling the handi-capped spots, with his sidearm in hand.

Less guns, less shooting, probably more fistfights.
 
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ClassicRockr said:
It can definitely depend on what city. Like Bozeman, Montana, Cody, Wyoming and others where there is virtually no crime. Even where we live, most of the crime is a DUI, shoplifting, outdated registration tags and such. There are folks here that don't even want to drive down to Denver. Denver to them is "the Colorado version of Los Angeles" and we have been told that.
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Many of the worst shootings have happened in little towns with little to no history of violent crime -- Sandy Hook in Newtown CT comes to mind. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it never will. After almost all of the worst shootings, you hear people on TV newsclips saying "Nothing like this has ever happened before. We never thought it could happen here . . . ."
 
retiredtraveler said:
Yeah. But of course, we cannot. As soon as you drop out, you become a 'victim'. And, what we all tend to forget since shootings are constantly in the news, is that there are dozens of things that will most likely kill you, well before chances of getting shot. You have a 1in7 chance of dying from cancer or heart disease. You have a 1in7000 chance of dying from a 'firearm discharge'. Of course, those are 'averages' and change from area-to-area.
Personally, my greatest fear is driving. Too many drivers distracted, on some kind of substance, or just plain poor drivers who will just cut in front of anyone without looking.
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I haven't totally dropped out and don't consider myself a victim but rather safer. I'm kind of glad I'm not driving these days.
 

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