Sigh, Time for the Doggie Diapers

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fureverywhere

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Okay now even hubby is saying enough is enough. Time to put piddle pants on Sophie. It's not that she can't control it. I am a revolving door of letting creatures out. Callie does his bathroom habits outside only. Sophie picks our bed, our daughter's bed, the couch. I think it's just part of her nutjob behavior. If the cat's laugh too bad.
 

Maybe Sophie has a UTI. How old is she? They often find odd spots when that's the problem, especially when they get older. Really. Google UTIs in pets.
 
But why does she target certain places? We had an old dog Jackie. Her kidneys had begun to shut down. Each week would be a bigger puddle in the kitchen and she couldn't help herself. Sophie seems to be targeting certain places. If she were human she would be on major meds. I think it's intentional.
 

fureverywhere said:
But why does she target certain places? Sophie seems to be targeting certain places. If she were human she would be on major meds. I think it's intentional.
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Really, I don't think she's 'targeting' certain places, or doing anything intentionally. These are probably just the places she normally frequents in everyday life, for relaxing or resting.

Best to keep in mind that they are just our furkids and not human, with none of the human spite or other negative intentions that humans often have. Sorry your baby is having these issues, glad they have things available these days like diapers, pads and belly bands for our sickly or elderly pets. Georgia might have a good point about physical reasons like a UTI, I know it's no picnic when we have to do these things for our dogs...good luck, hugs to Sophie (and you).
 
Really, I do believe they are smarter than we think. The usual order is I walk her first then Callie. If Callie hops out the door first and what the heck, a half hour and you are next. Our bed is drenched...oh sure you took HIM first...
 
I'm sure she's smart Fur, but not spiteful...not always fair to put people traits on animals, IMO.
 
Perhaps time for another vet visit? Have to get older son to help. She doesn't take to exams well. But yes you're right, it might be a physical reason why this is happening.
 
Although it's probably not the case here, I am convinced that our furry friends have many of the same emotions and motivations as humans, including spite.

I believe this because I have been on the receiving end of many actions that could have no other origins. If they're capable of love, fear and other major emotions, why not something like spite?
 
fureverywhere said:
Perhaps time for another vet visit? Have to get older son to help. She doesn't take to exams well. But yes you're right, it might be a physical reason why this is happening.
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I think so, Fur. You should take her in and get her looked at. She may be suffering with a UTI, OR it could just be some kind of incontinence tied to aging. My old dog Tasha had a problem with peeing places, after being VERY housebroken for years -- turned out it was diabetes. I would definitely take her in -- you don't want her suffering needlessly.
 
SifuPhil said:
Although it's probably not the case here, I am convinced that our furry friends have many of the same emotions and motivations as humans, including spite.

I believe this because I have been on the receiving end of many actions that could have no other origins. If they're capable of love, fear and other major emotions, why not something like spite?
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Because spite is something hateful that only we humans can own, animals are not so cruel. Here's an explanation better than what I can give, and I agree with it completely. http://consciouscompanion2012.com/2013/08/05/was-it-for-spite-think-again/


Assigning Human Attributes to Animals Is a Big Mistake

Have you ever done anything out of spite? Think about what’s involved. You have to do something now in order to upset somebody later.

You also need detailed insight into what would upset the other person, even if that same thing wouldn’t upset you. And you have to plan it out, because the Nasty Surprise isn’t going to happen now, and might not happen for hours, days, or weeks later.

That’s a lot of forethought for an animal. This is what cognitive scientists call “theory of mind“. It’s the understanding that others have a viewpoint and perceptions all of their own, which might or might not be the same as yours. Theory of Mind is “the way somebody conceives of mental activity in others, including how children conceptualize mental activity in others and how they attribute intention to and predict the behavior of others.”

Experiments testing imitation, self-recognition, social relationships, deception, role-taking (or empathy), and perspective-taking help us to answer whether nonhuman animals have theory of mind. Results have been mixed; only some results show the possibility that animals demonstrate awareness of the mental states of others.

I have my own personal beliefs about this. Almost every species I have worked with has demonstrated that they are self aware, but being spiteful and vengeful were not part of the equation.

So it’s really a very far stretch to believe that your cat, dog, rabbit, or pig can think to him/herself, “I find urine and poop quite interesting and informative, but my people are totally grossed out when they find a steamy pile of it on the family room carpet.

Hmmm. I think I will poop there just to see their reaction. I might even pee on their pillow. That will teach them to not leave me again.”

Our animals are not plotting their revenge to get a reaction from you in the future! Their behavior is not about YOU.

Let’s review this one more time:

Anthropomorphism: Attributing human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena
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To Blunderwoman, you aren't taking PM but...
Thank you for the kind words and virtual hugs. Pain in the butt dog. I know she's old and I made a commitment when I adopted her. So on Amazon I ordered washable panties. Pretty colors and absorbent...thought I was done with diapers years ago...but before she destroys the couch ya know?

So unless she's out doing her business in the yard or out on a walk she's wearing undies. The cats will laugh.
 
Sea, I still disagree with their "studies". I had a German Shepard that NEVER peed in the house, until we went out somewhere - then, like clockwork, the pee stains would appear. She also never destroyed anything with her teeth unless we were out.

Frustration? Fear? I think not. She knew we were coming home shortly, every time. She was "teaching us a lesson" - out of spite.

Cats that knock things off tables and shelves, while looking straight at you, smiling. Yes, smiling. You chase them, they run away and think to themselves "This is fun! I'm going to do it again, just out of spite!"

I once had a goldfish - Goldie - who would float on her back on the top of the water. I'd yell, run over and try to administer first aid - that's when she'd right herself and swim away, with a big goldfish grin on her face.

Spite, pure and simple! :(
 
I believe that. Sophie is old and maybe the bladder isn't so much in control. But if Callie or human kids are in my lap ahead of her? She will do anything she can...over-licking, groaning, even just trying to squish her target..."Momeee loves meee more!".
 
SifuPhil said:
Sea, I still disagree with their "studies". I had a German Shepard that NEVER peed in the house, until we went out somewhere - then, like clockwork, the pee stains would appear. She also never destroyed anything with her teeth unless we were out.

Frustration? Fear? I think not. She knew we were coming home shortly, every time. She was "teaching us a lesson" - out of spite.

Cats that knock things off tables and shelves, while looking straight at you, smiling. Yes, smiling. You chase them, they run away and think to themselves "This is fun! I'm going to do it again, just out of spite!"

I once had a goldfish - Goldie - who would float on her back on the top of the water. I'd yell, run over and try to administer first aid - that's when she'd right herself and swim away, with a big goldfish grin on her face.

Spite, pure and simple! :(
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Looks like the animal world is set against you Phil...hugs. :love_heart: We can agree to disagree here. My hubby leans toward your side, since he says sometimes that one of our pets is doing something to be spiteful or manipulative. I guess until the day they can have a chat with us and give us the lowdown, we'll never really know. :D
 
Fur, aren't you going to take her to the vet to see what's going on?

I took her a few weeks ago. No UTI or anything else. She's old but healthy as a horse. And like I said we've had creatures in the past with failing kidneys and loss of control. Then they just randomly wet themselves or the floor. She isn't doing that. She can hold it in until the couch or bed are empty. Another sign that they are incontinent is you'll see them do it.

We have four humans in the house and nobody has ever caught her in the act. You just step in a huge puddle or the bed is wet.
Jackie the dog would go down to the kitchen with me every morning and just let loose on the kitchen floor. She couldn't hold it in to get outside. Sophie is holding it in for hours until the coast is clear.

Cats are in a league of their own...I know cats can be as spiteful as any human;).
 
Marmaduke is really spiteful! :p


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I was going to order them online. Then in the store one day I was looking at baby diapers and pull ups for older kids. GoodNights makes cotton underwear with pads that fit in a fold, no adhesive or Velcro to catch fur. The small fit her like a bikini. She's around sixty pounds. The large seems like it might just be perfect. Of course I have to get the tail hole just right.

I was worried she would try to take it off or chew at it. She didn't seem bothered at all. Of course we've had many years together. I could dress her as Santa and she'd be good. Just for overnight, it's seems early morning is when she needs extra protection. Oh I forgot to mention...the starter kit with 2 undies and pads was $13.99 on sale. Amazon is $40 for three made for dogs.
 
Okay now we've seen them in use. Someone let her in the yard and she did her thing. In the panties...The good news is they do contain everything...okay five kids times two years for potty training. And I am still wiping butts...hey you get used to it.
 
Good for you Fur, I know it must be a lot of extra work, trouble and expense, but you're an angel to do this for your furbaby....kudos and hugs. :love_heart:
 
My old gray nutjob...really least I can do for her. My Dophie...we adopted her fearful. Then fear aggressive. Now old and losing herself...my beautiful baby.
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Sophie is a beautiful girl, glad you're giving her love and comfort in her later years. She needs you now just as much as she did when you adopted her, she's blessed to have such a loving mom and good home. Give that sweetie a big hug for me.
 
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My old gray nutjob...really least I can do for her. My Dophie...we adopted her fearful. Then fear aggressive. Now old and losing herself...my beautiful baby.
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Your Sophie looks like a real nice dog fureverywhere. Enjoy her as long as you can.

My daughters Hooch looks a lot like Sophie except he has only a teeny bit of white on him and he was diagnosed with cancer last week so his end is coming soon. The vet said maybe four or five months but they have him on some high strength painkillers but even doped to the eyeballs, he's still feeling that bad leg and it's getting worse daily so my daughter thinks more likely a month left. So Hooch has a get out of jail free card now! No matter what he does (like get into the garbage yesterday), he's a 'good boy'.

Last night she brought home a huge slice of birthday cake from the office celebration of someone's birthday and that's what he had for his supper. She would never give him that kind of thing previously but now he get's all kinds of treats. On the weekend, she's taking him on the commuter train and they're going downtown (he loves new stuff and crowds and excitement) and he's getting a hot dog for lunch and then home again on the train. So she and 'her boy' are celebrating his long and wonderful life together for as long as they have left.
 
That's such a sweet story Debby. Exactly...I've just naturally started spending more time with her and cherishing it. Callie is good with that, he's happy to put his head in anyone's lap. Sophie was Mommy's girl from when we first met. I just gave her a bath. Now she smells like a new pup. She's way grayer now than the picture but still a beautiful girl.
 
Don't these mutts tug at our heartstrings eh? People who don't have dogs just don't get it do they? Can you imagine a house with no (hairballs, muddy footprints, nose prints all over the car windows, doggy smelling blankets...) dogs/cats? I sure can't and I'm betting you and a bunch of other folks here could never imagine it either! We love them so much and long after they're gone, we remember and love them! Thank goodness for them all.
 

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