SNAP benefits to end due to US govt shutdown

[DHH]

Well then, good for Wisconsin's governor.

Not what most Wisconsinites think! Our taxes keep going up!

 

[Trade]

Few people are in danger of actually starving. The first SNAP benefits weren't due to load on people's accounts until the 3rd or 4th, so it's been 4 days at most. And many (most? all?) are reporting that benefits are being loaded on their cards as per usual.

However it works out in the immediate future, this scare should be a learning lesson to people living on the edge.

The only way I've ever gotten out of a hole was to first stop digging.

The top 10% own 68% of the wealth in this country and the bottom 50% own 2.5%. To me that's prima facia evidence that the system is rigged. So I'm trying to put myself in the position of someone who is living on the edge of survival. I think that's called empathy. If I'm in that position I can see how one can feel that billionaires like the Walton family have been stealing from your kind for decades so maybe it's time for a little payback. But I was kidding about the Rib Eyes and T-bones. I actually like hot dogs more than I do steak. Or what I really like is Dinty Moore beef stew.

Coincidently I was in Walmart this morning picking up a few grocery items. Which I paid for by the way. While I was there I picked up a can of Dinty Moore beef stew but when I saw the price was now up to $3.67 I put it back on the shelf. With Alabamas regressive sales tax of 10% on groceries that would come to a little over $4 bucks for a can that only provides about 500 calories of food.

Now if I were single I think I might try to live on Dinty Moore Beef Stew alone. Let's see. 500 calories per can. I'd need about 5 cans a day. At $4 bucks a can that's $20 a day or $600 a month. I think that would be doable. I'd like to try it for a month. I could call it the Dinty Moore Beef Stew Challenge.

 

[againstthegrain]

If it were just people who can’t fend for themselves, there wouldn’t be an issue. Sadly, far to may receiving welfare of all kinds WON’T fend for themselves. Entirely too much fraud in these programs.

While the reported 2 % wfa is 1.99% too much the solution to not pay anyone benefits is cruel and inhumane and actually has little to do w our current predicament. The wfa strawman allows those "true believers" to blindly dismiss those truly needy and deserving from your conscience that are being hurt badly.

Please name one human endeavor that is free from waste, fraud, or abuse?

 

[squatting dog]

I see that today, a judge ordered the Admin. to divert some $5 billion from the school lunch program to SNAP by the end of today. I wonder about the legal aspect as this money was allocated by congress. Wonder if they can just shift it to another program without congress aproving it.

 

[Trade]

If it were just people who can’t fend for themselves, there wouldn’t be an issue. Sadly, far to may receiving welfare of all kinds WON’T fend for themselves. Entirely too much fraud in these programs.

I'm sure glad I'm not one of those lazy leaches that won't fend for themselves. I don't get anthing free from the government.

Well except for my social security that's direct deposited to my account every month.

And then there's my pension from the State of Florida that is also direct deposited every month.

And then the government pays the lions share of my medical expenses via Medicare.

And you know what this past November 1st was? It was the 18 year anniversary of my retirement. In that time I have not done one days work.

Boy, I'm sure glad I'm fending for myself.

 

[DHH]

While the reported 2 % wfa is 1.99% too much the solution to not pay anyone benefits is cruel and inhumane and actually has little to do w our current predicament. The wfa strawman allows those "true believers" to blindly dismiss those truly needy and deserving from your conscience that are being hurt badly.

Please name one human endeavor that is free from waste, fraud, or abuse

All welfare programs have been abused and twisted far beyond their original intent, to be a hand-up, not a lifestyle. They all need to be scraped and start over. No one is starving. Hyperbole doesn’t help.

I was on welfare when my son was a baby. Got off as soon as possible and have repaid it more than once. THAT is what it needs to be.

 

[DHH]

I'm sure glad I'm not one of those lazy leaches that won't fend for themselves. I don't get anthing free from the government.

Well except for my social security that's direct deposited to my account every month.

And then there's my pension from the State of Florida that is also direct deposited every month.

And then the government pays the lions share of my medical expenses via Medicare.

And you know what this past November 1st was? It was the 18 year anniversary of my retirement. In that time I have not done one days work.

Boy, I'm sure glad I'm fending for myself.

Those are not free things and you know it. You earned it. Speaking of “strawmen.”

 

[StarSong]

I'm sure glad I'm not one of those lazy leaches that won't fend for themselves. I don't get anthing free from the government.

Well except for my social security that's direct deposited to my account every month.

And then there's my pension from the State of Florida that is also direct deposited every month.

And then the government pays the lions share of my medical expenses via Medicare.

And you know what this past November 1st was? It was the 18 year anniversary of my retirement. In that time I have not done one days work.

Boy, I'm sure glad I'm fending for myself.

Touché!

 

[Trade]

Those are not free things and you know it. You earned it. Speaking of “strawmen.”

Did I really? Or did I just work the system to my advantage?

Here's the way I see it. The top 10% have 68% of the wealth.

The botton 50% have about 2%.

And I've managed to get myself in that middle 40% that still have 30%.

But the top 10% are not satisfied with 68%. They want it all. But they hve bled the bottom 50% just about dry. So now they are coming after the group I'm in. And the way they are doing it is that they are coming after our Social Security by pushing to privatise it. Our Medicare, also by pushing to privatise it, and our pensions which they have already decimated the private sector ones by replacing them with 401K's and are trying to do the same with public sector ones.

 

[DHH]

Touché!

Hardly! Those are EARNED benefits. Sad that you and Trade don’t understand the difference. That’s a big part of the problem.

 

[DHH]

Did I really? Or did I just work the system to my advantage?

Sure, hon. pathetic.

 

[StarSong]

Those are not free things and you know it. You earned it. Speaking of “strawmen.”

The average retiree recoups all they paid into SS within 5 years. Even sooner for Medicare for many of us.

Funny how what comes to us from the government is earned but what others receive? Well, those people are clearly on the dole.

There's waste in SS and Medicare too, but who on this forum would suggest throwing those babies out with the bathwater?

In situations like these my dear father-in-law used to say, "Whew! I got onboard ship just in time. Quick, let's pull up the ladder!!!"

 

[Aunt Bea]

If it were just people who can’t fend for themselves, there wouldn’t be an issue. Sadly, far to may receiving welfare of all kinds WON’T fend for themselves. Entirely too much fraud in these programs.

We always tend to go after the recipients when in fact it’s the politicians and career bureaucrats that are asleep at the switch when it comes to fraud and abuse of government funded social programs.

“Don't hate the player; change the game.” - Steve Harvey

 

[RambleTamble]

Speaking of waste, look no further than the Military Industrial Complex with it's trillion dollar plus annual budget. And also the Medical Testing Industrial Complex. And the University Industrial Complex.

The entire economy is one giant scam.

 

[DHH]

The average retiree recoups all they paid into SS within 5 years. Even sooner for Medicare for many of us.

Funny how what comes to us from the government is earned but what others receive? Well, those people are clearly on the dole.

There's waste in SS and Medicare too, but who on this forum would suggest throwing those babies out with the bathwater?

In situations like these my dear father-in-law used to say, "Whew! I got onboard ship just in time. Quick, let's pull up the ladder!!!"

I wish they would seek out and find the fraud, waste, and abuse in ALL government programs and I know I’m not the only one who thinks that.

 

[StarSong]

I wish they would seek out and find the fraud, waste, and abuse in ALL government programs and I know I’m not the only one who thinks that.

The big fraud, waste and abuse comes from huge sweetheart contracts handed out by politicians to their donors and compadres. Private prisons and military contractors like Blackwater are perfect examples.

Washington politicians who are poor are scarcer than hen's teeth. Gee, I wonder how that happens.