If you lived in the 'free' part of the USA you would understand that until or unless the cost, technology and environmental impacts for EV's becomes preferred by American consumers, they will not succeed.
Have a nice trip into La La Land! That smog really did fry all you brains....!
I guess you have not heard what happens to EV's when the crash! The 'Blow' up! No fake explosives needed...
And just imagine how long the cord would be on an electric plane!
I don't think you quite understand the point I've been trying to make. It simply doesn't matter who is in charge of our U.S. government politically. The same outcome is going to happen either way. Right wing, left wing isn't going to matter one iota! The issue with EV's is one of ECONOMICS NOT politics!!!! Automakers are simply going to quit making piston driven gasoline powered vehicles not because someone is telling them to do it but because those antiquated technologies of yesteryear are simply too expensive to manufacture vis a vis EV's. Unlike EV's piston driven internal combustion engines also require a TRANSMISSION, all of which must still be built in factories mostly by hand labor!!! Not only that but they must be serviced and maintained by specialized mechanics at car dealerships. All those jobs are rapidly going to disappear. Those individuals who still prefer gasoline powered cars will be living in a world similar to Cuba where the U.S embargo stopped them from importing cars long ago and everything on the road there is a rickety, gimcrack hand repaired 1958 Chevy.
Big Brother is trying to stop, or at least slow, the transition to EVs. Advances in technology and in science are paving the way, but political leaders are politicizing it, much like they politicized covid vaccines and pretty much everything else. They're causing great damage to our country in the process.
Beg to differ.
But where does this Hydrogen go , In the air ? Does it turn back into water and give us more Rain? I have no idea .... seems to me, we are going backwards, so I'll look forward to slowing down and getting an Oss ...
I suppose we could dump them in outer space? The best solution, I think, would be to take the limos and jets away from the 1%. Who do these people think they are anyway? I'm sure diesel cars will go eventually but I firmly do not believe the infrastructure exists to make it happen within the narrow time frame our leaders want.Another tid-bit to mull over is what happens to the used batteries. Recycle is what experts say, but, even they admit the technology is at least 10 to 15 years down the road, and that's a maybe. So, let's look at real world problems... today.
Even now, some Tesla batteries (produced since 2008) have reached the end of their life. So, what happens to all these batteries?
In its 2020 impact report, published Wednesday, the electric vehicle giant described its adoption of a “closed-loop” process that would allow it to keep 100 percent of its batteries, which typically last around a decade, out of the landfill: “None of our scrapped lithium-ion batteries go to landfills and 100 percent are recycled,” the report reads. “We actively implement circular economy principles.”
This claim was quickly recirculated by tech and electric vehicle blogs, which lauded the company for this feat.
However, Tesla is Working with third-party recyclers and that means Tesla doesn’t retain much control over what happens to the minerals in their batteries once they’re sent to a recycler. Its environmental impact report also does not claim the company is making batteries out of recycled minerals yet. (Jan 30, 2022).
Therefore, many of the massive used batteries (the Tesla version weighs about 900 pounds) appear to be stockpiled in hopes of greater reuse and recycling markets. But eventually those batteries, along with the toxic chemicals that can leach out of them, could end up in hazardous waste landfills.
All speculation... pfffft by 2050 .
Recent research has shown that by 2050 recycled materials could supply 45–52% of cobalt, 22–27% of lithium, and 40–46% of nickel used in the United States light- and heavy-duty vehicle fleet.
In five years, solid-state batteries, which don't use lithium, will dominate the EV market. They're safer than lithium batteries, charge faster, and can hold more charge. They're quite a bit more expensive, but that will change. Battery technology is advancing quickly. By 2050, who knows what advances in technology will bring.All speculation... pfffft by 2050 .
see post #86 for real world today.
Another tid-bit to keep in mind if you live anywhere near salt water or saltwater air.... Wouldn't ya know salt water makes an awesome electrolyte and conductor!
I learned that watching Gillian’s Island. Professor was wicked smart.
After surviving Hurricane Ian, some homes in Florida are facing a new danger: electric vehicles catching
fire due to their batteries being corroded by the floods.
