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Tonight.. and looks like the President is going to outline some pretty progressive ideas to help the middle class.. Who wants to take bets on how the GOP dominated joint Congress is going to embarrass themselves tonight. Who is going to yell out something? Like "YOU LIE" ? Which SCOTUS Justice is going to roll their eyes and shake their head in disgust? Or are they more than likely sit on their hands.. refuse to applaud or stand up and in general look like they all sucked a sour lemon? Probably the latter.. BUT you never know what will happen with the latest bunch of wing-nuts...... stay tuned!!
 

One thing sure about your post. You are extremely biased and have your mind fixed on PARTY differences, even when exaggerated and maybe even wrong. I am sure that some Democrats have also done incorrect and likely wrong things during the State of the Union messages when it was a Republican President speaking.
 
Didn't someone just mention how people on this forum are respectful of one another? i guess that does not apply to everyone.
 

Actually Bob, I think Representative Joe Wilson's yell was totally unprecedented in the annals of discourtesy at a State of the Union Speech. I think if you're going to speculate that some Democrat has done something comparable, you need to give a reference.
 
I'm interested in the ideas he has to offer to the Middle Class... but must admit.. a GOP outburst would be entertaining.. Personally, whatever he outlines, there will be little or NO chance the GOP will go along with it and that it will pass the house or Senate. BUT...... I understand there will be things like Pre-K for all.. free 2 year junior college tuition, raising the minimum wage... mandatory 7 days paid sick days and 6 weeks paid maternity leave.. all paid for by an increase in the capital gain tax for the top 1% from 25% to 28% (which it was under Reagan)... and elimination of the inheritance tax for the very wealthy.

NOW..... just HOW is the GOP going to not be for any of that without cementing the idea people already have that they ONLY care about the very wealthy and NOT raising their taxes..and couldn't care less about the average American? People are going to notice.. doncha think? AND it will only prove their conception about the GOP as being controlled by Corporations and the Wealthy.. Nice little mouse trap there Mr. President!!!
 
Davey Jones said:
oh sorry, Ill be watching The Big Bang Theory also called SOTU speech.
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I think it's great he is going on the offensive... what has he got to lose. ALL his ideas are very popular with Americans and the polls confirm that. NOW that the GOP has the reigns so to speak... THEY have to come up with some popular ideas too if they want to win in 2016.. They won't... because their puppet masters won't let them.

Hey, has anyone listened to Romney the last few days trying to pretend he is Mr. Populace????? What a hoot... Just how believable is that? Mr. 47%. Give me a break. Goes to show you how hard this is going to be for them. They have to PRETEND they care about Americans yet refuse to upset the Doner class and keep the money moving upward. It should be fun watching them tie themselves into pretzels..
 
Josiah09 said:
Actually Bob, I think Representative Joe Wilson's yell was totally unprecedented in the annals of discourtesy at a State of the Union Speech. I think if you're going to speculate that some Democrat has done something comparable, you need to give a reference.
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And just one example of how this particular president has been the most disrespected in history..NEVER has anyone dared to show that level of disrespect to a sitting President..let alone one addressing the Joint Chambers... yet it's somehow just fine to do that to President Obama... ..... wonder why..
 
For a popular idea maybe Obama should show us how he is going to rid the US of the $18 trillion debt he has developed with his never budgeted changes to our way of life. Unfunded things that someday someone else will have to pay for eventually. Obama had lots of ideas, still does, but never figured out how to pay for it at all. When Obama took over the debt was at about $11 trillion and now at $18 trillion and still rising so for 6 years our debt increased by $7 trillion. Two more years to go, so will the debt keep rising? I hope not and maybe the conservative congress will try to stop the rise and maybe start the pay back that our far left congress Senate and Obama pushed.
 
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It's times like these I'm grateful for cable and highlight reels. For the next week the speech will be analyzed, replayed, picked apart and exploited for either party's favor.
 
Well yes, I will be listening to Obama babble for an hour or so. But then later it will all be boiled down to about 10 minutes or so of real content that will be discussed for the next few days or weeks. Obama is far too political and not enough practical.
 
Debby said:
Sounds like Quicksilver isn't the only one with a definite party bias eh Bob?
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I fully admit my bias... I have studied the GOP platform and history. There is just about nothing I can agree with. BUT it's pretty good for a laugh I must admit.
 
Party politics and electing on party are both way wrong. We should get rid of 'party' and start voting for people, the way our constitution was set up. And not that two 'parties' have more or less taken over our election system we can still vote for people and forget the 'party' while doing so. Vote for the people and everything will be better for all of us. Each party has some very fine folks involved and also some very political misfits that have big mouths, selfish ways, don't mind breaking the idea of a Republic to get their ways. And it gets worse each year and since 1970? I think the US government has gone away from how we are supposed to have a Congress that works across he lines and tries to get best for all to be passed. Best for all means more than just what one party decides. It has to be more on a joint agreement among the Congress folk, and if the results of Congress irritates a President, so be it. The President rejects and if Congress puts enough votes together, they over ride the President. Just the way our government is supposed to run.

This Congressional running of our government has not been allowed to happen for several years now. It needs to change back to the way our Constitution says. Maybe too, we need to have limits on how long these Senators and Representatives can hold office in order to break up these built in 'gangs' of biased and one minded politicians that don't care about the Constitution, the budgets, what the people are asking for, etc.
 
Haven't watched state of union all the way through in decades either party.

Hmmm, lets see, first the slow entrace,hand shakes, camera pans to political celebs, standing o, applause. Verbage then applause, more verbage more applause, more verbage applause possibly a standing o, camera pans to faces you are supposed to know and love. Verbage, applause, standing Os and camera pans-been there done that.

The supposed guest list includes an illegal alien.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/19/state-of-the-union-guests-include-illegal-immigran/

Pre and post speech banter is where the action is. Actual legislation/process are the playoffs for the prez's programs.

The speech will feed the commentORs for weeks. It will analyzed as much as a controversial Super Bowl play.
 
[h=1]Daily Beast: SOTU Sneak Peek: Obama to Hit Citizens United[/h]Reportedly, another new initiative Obama is going to be announcing at tonight’s speech will attempt to rein in secret campaign money.

Many of President Obama’s policy priorities have been showcased, but he’s surely kept a few surprises to unveil in his State of the Union address Tuesday evening. Among them, sources say, is a major push to rein in the flood of secret money capturing our democracy and making a mockery of one-person, one-vote. With his approval rating now nudging 50 percent, Obama may be in the midst of a fourth-quarter comeback as he reclaims the high ground on his campaign promises and seeks to restore his credentials as an activist outsider shaking up Washington.

It was five SOTUs ago when Obama said the Supreme Court in its Citizens United ruling “reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests—including foreign companies—to spend without limits in our elections.” Cameras zeroed in on Justice Samuel Alito, seated directly in front of Obama in the House Chamber, mouthing the word “wrong.” Alito had voted with the majority the previous week in the Court’s 5-4 decision.

Thursday is the fifth anniversary of Citizens United, and reformers have been told that the president may announce executive action in his SOTU speech that would require businesses contracting with the government to disclose political contributions after contracts have been awarded. This would ensure that the contracting process is blind, but also give the public (and the media) the information needed to connect the dots to look for backroom deals or conflicts of interest.

This should be a no-brainer for anyone wondering how the wheels get greased for government contracts, and it will be a significant breakthrough in exposing the influence of campaign contributions whether or not Obama announces executive action in the SOTU itself, or in the days following. Republicans once supported disclosure, but since Citizens United opened up more vehicles for money given anonymously, the GOP has taken a hands-off approach. Democrats, who once opposed disclosure as not going far enough, are now its biggest advocates.



Three guesses who just happens to have multi-million dollar contracts with the Department of Defense? The federal-government-hating Koch Brothers, that's who! They have tens of millions of dollars in defense contracts with the federal government, and so does Rushie-boy Limbaugh. He has a federal government contract that allows his hate-fest-show to be broadcast on the American Forces Network.


Hee hee hee........:clap:
 
QuickSilver said:
Tonight.. and looks like the President is going to outline some pretty progressive ideas to help the middle class.. Who wants to take bets on how the GOP dominated joint Congress is going to embarrass themselves tonight. Who is going to yell out something? Like "YOU LIE" ? Which SCOTUS Justice is going to roll their eyes and shake their head in disgust? Or are they more than likely sit on their hands.. refuse to applaud or stand up and in general look like they all sucked a sour lemon? Probably the latter.. BUT you never know what will happen with the latest bunch of wing-nuts...... stay tuned!!
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Your post shows your stripes. Tsk tsk
 
Jackie22 said:
Daily Beast: SOTU Sneak Peek: Obama to Hit Citizens United

Reportedly, another new initiative Obama is going to be announcing at tonight’s speech will attempt to rein in secret campaign money.

Many of President Obama’s policy priorities have been showcased, but he’s surely kept a few surprises to unveil in his State of the Union address Tuesday evening. Among them, sources say, is a major push to rein in the flood of secret money capturing our democracy and making a mockery of one-person, one-vote. With his approval rating now nudging 50 percent, Obama may be in the midst of a fourth-quarter comeback as he reclaims the high ground on his campaign promises and seeks to restore his credentials as an activist outsider shaking up Washington.

It was five SOTUs ago when Obama said the Supreme Court in its Citizens United ruling “reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests—including foreign companies—to spend without limits in our elections.” Cameras zeroed in on Justice Samuel Alito, seated directly in front of Obama in the House Chamber, mouthing the word “wrong.” Alito had voted with the majority the previous week in the Court’s 5-4 decision.

Thursday is the fifth anniversary of Citizens United, and reformers have been told that the president may announce executive action in his SOTU speech that would require businesses contracting with the government to disclose political contributions after contracts have been awarded. This would ensure that the contracting process is blind, but also give the public (and the media) the information needed to connect the dots to look for backroom deals or conflicts of interest.

This should be a no-brainer for anyone wondering how the wheels get greased for government contracts, and it will be a significant breakthrough in exposing the influence of campaign contributions whether or not Obama announces executive action in the SOTU itself, or in the days following. Republicans once supported disclosure, but since Citizens United opened up more vehicles for money given anonymously, the GOP has taken a hands-off approach. Democrats, who once opposed disclosure as not going far enough, are now its biggest advocates.



Three guesses who just happens to have multi-million dollar contracts with the Department of Defense? The federal-government-hating Koch Brothers, that's who! They have tens of millions of dollars in defense contracts with the federal government, and so does Rushie-boy Limbaugh. He has a federal government contract that allows his hate-fest-show to be broadcast on the American Forces Network.


Hee hee hee........:clap:
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This is really going to set some GOP hair on fire!! Now what are they going to do?? AHHHH... Impeach!! why? because the Kochs will tell them too!!
 

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