Diwundrin
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- Nth Coast NSW Australia
That, like euthanasia, is for the individual conscience to decide. There are always those who do find it within their capabilities to end a threat permanently with no conscience conflicts at all, nor are these people killers by nature. It equates with those soldiers who can carry out their duty to kill when it is necessary without turning homicidal.
The person who can chop off a chicken's head isn't thought of as a potential axe murderer, why should an executioner be deemed a murderer? That attitude is strictly a religious one but no one of that belief would be asked to carry out an execution. It just doesn't work they way so it's a moot point.
It doesn't matter that those who want a danger to society dead don't carry out the sentence themselves. It is a decision arrived at by mutual consent and who carries out the sentence should carry no guilt for doing the duty.
By extension your reluctance to kill a person who is a danger to either or your own, or another's family makes you an accomplice to his crimes as you enable him to continue to frighten people. No matter that they may be physically incapable of further crime due to incarceration, the fear of him/her lives on.
Their continued existence breeds distrust in the justice system and resentment that his/her life is held to be sacred, while the lives of their victims are downgraded by comparison as no mercy was shown to them. In many cases the victims lives are trivialised as they become 'props' in the ensuing court cases, and sometimes even impact statements aren't allowed to be made and/or are ignored when sentencing is considered. The perpetrator's life should never be seen to hold more value than that of his victim, with some exceptions. There are always exceptions, but we're talking about iron clad convictions of people too dangerous to ever be released, or forgiven. Yes, I could probably shoot someone who'd taken a loved one of mine. I get really stroppy about that kind of thing.
Why exactly are we better than animals by the way? Just because we're supposedly smarter? We are animals, we are a product of nature and evolution and haven't changed all that much from the stone age, psychologically. We still live by the same instincts we had as primates, we just give them fancier names now.
Or is it only religious people who can 'price themselves above animals'?
The person who can chop off a chicken's head isn't thought of as a potential axe murderer, why should an executioner be deemed a murderer? That attitude is strictly a religious one but no one of that belief would be asked to carry out an execution. It just doesn't work they way so it's a moot point.
It doesn't matter that those who want a danger to society dead don't carry out the sentence themselves. It is a decision arrived at by mutual consent and who carries out the sentence should carry no guilt for doing the duty.
By extension your reluctance to kill a person who is a danger to either or your own, or another's family makes you an accomplice to his crimes as you enable him to continue to frighten people. No matter that they may be physically incapable of further crime due to incarceration, the fear of him/her lives on.
Their continued existence breeds distrust in the justice system and resentment that his/her life is held to be sacred, while the lives of their victims are downgraded by comparison as no mercy was shown to them. In many cases the victims lives are trivialised as they become 'props' in the ensuing court cases, and sometimes even impact statements aren't allowed to be made and/or are ignored when sentencing is considered. The perpetrator's life should never be seen to hold more value than that of his victim, with some exceptions. There are always exceptions, but we're talking about iron clad convictions of people too dangerous to ever be released, or forgiven. Yes, I could probably shoot someone who'd taken a loved one of mine. I get really stroppy about that kind of thing.
Why exactly are we better than animals by the way? Just because we're supposedly smarter? We are animals, we are a product of nature and evolution and haven't changed all that much from the stone age, psychologically. We still live by the same instincts we had as primates, we just give them fancier names now.
Or is it only religious people who can 'price themselves above animals'?
