Street Racing Morons

win231

win231

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These two idiots decide to try 100 mph in their fast car, risking everyone else's life. There is a place for testing fast cars; it's called a race track where drivers won't be putting others at risk.
Usually, street racers kill other innocents....unfortunately, I have witnessed this several times. This time, a tree solved the problem with no innocents killed. Driving is now safer for the rest of us. RIH (Rest in Hell).

Street racers are SCUM.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...-basin-lamborghini-crash/ar-AABrUIP?ocid=iehp
 

I’ve arrested my share of street racers. You’re right. Street racers put the public in great danger. One of the problems police face while in pursuit is that if I’m pursuing a car going 90 mph on public streets, that means that I have to go faster than his 90 to catch him. The public doesn’t like us doing that because now we also pose a risk.

So, to appease the public, it is possible for the state police to take a picture of the tag and find the car later. The problem with this is we can’t arrest the car, so unless we have evidence or a witness as to who the driver was, we were kind of stuck trying to make an arrest. Now, to offset this, we are allowed to arrest the owner and use video from our car and also any other video that may be available, plus any eyewitness identification.

If the owner is truly innocent because he loaned his car to someone else, he’s better off giving up his friend, instead of paying out the thousands of dollars it costs to defend the charges. He may get off, but at what cost? This seems to be working. BTW, fines in Pennsylvania escalate with the amount of speed over the limit.
 

"I'll buy my kid a Lamborghini to prove I love him." Hey Dad, what is the top end speed on that car?
What that car will do:
Top Speed 216 mph
631 HP 441 ft./lbs. torque
0-60 mph in 3.0 seconds
Even the SUV will do 185 mph.

Many decades ago my friend bought his 16 year old son a Corvette with very similar results-total destruction & death. Why not buy them a pound of heroin?
 
It's a terrible tragedy that these young people died in this horrific crash. I live fewer than 15 miles from the site of the accident. The two who died were a photographer and an aspiring model who were driving a rented Lamborghini on their way to a photo shoot. No doubt they pushed the speed to the limit because they probably figured they'd have few opportunities to be in a Lamborghini.

Their loss of life was an unbelievably high price to pay for a reckless decision. I sure won't condemn them for it. Who among us didn't make a few bad choices back in our youth? Choices that could easily have killed or seriously injured ourselves or someone else - or landed us in jail.

By all accounts from family and friends, these were two much loved, hard working kids. Tragic.

My heart goes out to the families of these young people.
 
StarSong said:
It's a terrible tragedy that these young people died in this horrific crash. I live fewer than 15 miles from the site of the accident. The two who died were a photographer and an aspiring model who were driving a rented Lamborghini on their way to a photo shoot. No doubt they pushed the speed to the limit because they probably figured they'd have few opportunities to be in a Lamborghini.

Their loss of life was an unbelievably high price to pay for a reckless decision. I sure won't condemn them for it. Who among us didn't make a few bad choices back in our youth? Choices that could easily have killed or seriously injured ourselves or someone else - or landed us in jail.

By all accounts from family and friends, these were two much loved, hard working kids. Tragic.

My heart goes out to the families of these young people.
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I was young at one time. I got my driver's license at 16. I've never made a decision that could hurt or kill anyone else. And I'm not "special."
To do what these two adults did requires lack of a conscience. The moron driving was 26. Had he survived, he would have been charged with manslaughter for killing his passenger. Same thing if anyone in the other car he hit was killed. The woman was 19. Neither were "kids." Just really thoughtless, stupid adults.
 
win231 said:
I was young at one time. I got my driver's license at 16. I've never made a decision that could hurt or kill anyone else. And I'm not "special."
To do what these two adults did requires lack of a conscience. The moron driving was 26. Had he survived, he would have been charged with manslaughter for killing his passenger. Same thing if anyone in the other car he hit was killed. The woman was 19. Neither were "kids." Just really thoughtless, stupid adults.
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Back home, we call comments like this as "pi$$ing on a fresh grave", or in this case, two graves. Hope you feel better.
 
What’s worse is if you are the first to arrive at the scene of a head-on collision and along with two other firemen, you have to help cut out the victims from their twisted wrecks using the jaws of life tool.

Can you even even begin to imagine what someone looks like when you are finally able to remove the bodies? It’s a sight that never leaves your mind. Every time after you do this and you get a call to another accident, you instantly recall that night all over again and as you drive to the scene, you silently pray that you don’t have to do it again.
 
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I cannot imagine what it is like for emergency responders and am deeply grateful that some among us are called to those professions.

It's clear that these people made an extraordinarily foolish decision that day and paid for it with their lives. Win231, I'm glad that you never got behind the wheel when you had had a couple of drinks, were fighting sleep, were distracted by children in the back seat, used a car that was in less than perfect running order, declined to buckle your seatbelt, sped, ran a light or stop sign (accidentally or intentionally), cut someone off in traffic, used your cell phone - even for a moment, or rode with anyone who did any of the above. I cannot say the same is true for me.

These people made a terrible mistake. They, their friends, and their families are paying the ultimate price. What benefit is there to vilifying them for the obvious?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
 
I can only speak for Pennsylvania, but our number one violation on the roadways is speeding. I have operated speed guns (radar) for a lot of years on interstates and our turnpike. At times, it was unbelievable at some of the speeds that were recorded. The speed limit for most of our turnpike mileage wise is 70 mph. My highest recorded speed was 127 mph.

According to our statutes, the fine is determined by the number of mph over the limit. Additionally, we also have a point system. Depending on the violation, points are charged against the driver’s license. In the case stated above, the driver would be looking at a fine of around $400.00 + 3 points. When a driver reaches 6 points, he/she faces additional penalties including, having to attend a driver’s education course, or depending on their past driving record, they could be summoned to face a judge for disposition of their case.

Even today, speeding remains a problem on all roadways here in the Commonwealth. However, the new normal for cause of accidents is driver distraction, usually caused by a cellphone.
 
Street racing can be dangerous for sure, may the two who lost their lives rest in peace. Thankfully, no bystanders were killed in the incident.
 
Being young and stupid pretty much go together. They make us invincible. We have total faith in our abilities. Well, at least, till they have to come and pick up the pieces. I don't think there's a pill or something to cure that. You can't fix stupid. Reality is a severe teacher, sadly to those who survive.
 
911 said:
What’s worse is if you are the first to arrive at the scene of a head-on collision and along with two other firemen, you have to help cut out the victims from their twisted wrecks using the jaws of life tool.

Can you even even begin to imagine what someone looks like when you are finally able to remove the bodies? It’s a sight that never leaves your mind. Every time after you do this and you get a call to another accident, you instantly recall that night all over again and you drive to the scene, you silently pray that you don’t have to do it again.
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I'm not a paramedic & I've seen it too. You're right; it's never forgotten.
I was hit by a drunk. I wasn't hurt because he only sideswiped me because I swerved; he was about to hit me head on; he was fleeing another accident & he was going around 70. He hit another car, killing two women in the front seat & another passenger in the back seat lost her leg.
We still don't crack down on drunk drivers & street racers. Doesn't matter who their victims are - a regular person, or Princess Dianna or Ted Kennedy's mistress.
 
StarSong said:
I cannot imagine what it is like for emergency responders and am deeply grateful that some among us are called to those professions.

It's clear that these people made an extraordinarily foolish decision that day and paid for it with their lives. Win231, I'm glad that you never got behind the wheel when you had had a couple of drinks, were fighting sleep, were distracted by children in the back seat, used a car that was in less than perfect running order, declined to buckle your seatbelt, sped, ran a light or stop sign (accidentally or intentionally), cut someone off in traffic, used your cell phone - even for a moment, or rode with anyone who did any of the above. I cannot say the same is true for me.

These people made a terrible mistake. They, their friends, and their families are paying the ultimate price. What benefit is there to vilifying them for the obvious?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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Well, if you want to call going 5-10 mph over the speed limit, yes, I've sped. These two jerks weren't just speeding; experts at the scene said they were going around 150mph. Big difference.
"Ran a stop sign?" Well, sometimes I don't make a complete stop.
I put my seat belt on before I start my car; it's just too stupid not to wear one.
I don't cut anyone off; it's also stupid & leads to road rage.
I don't have a cell phone.
Oh....and when I'm at the shooting range, I don't point my gun at anyone. Gee...that makes me "just wonderful...."
 
Buckeye said:
Back home, we call comments like this as "pi$$ing on a fresh grave", or in this case, two graves. Hope you feel better.
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Nothing wrong with "pi$$ing" on a murderer's grave. The truth only hurts when it should.

Please accept my sympathy for living wherever "Back Home" is for you.
 
Youth & Speed inseparable in many cases. Yesterday I watched a youtube video of a driver on a motorcycle accelerating up to and maintaining a speed of 170 mph as seen on his speedometer. He was traveling on an interstate highway with light traffic.
 
I was thinking back when I was going through the State Police Academy and all the training that we were given and tested on. Then, after I read through this thread and I posted the story of when I aided in removing two bodies from one of the cars that was totaled after hitting another car head on, it reminded me of something that I was never trained to do.

I was never trained on how to tell parents that their precious little Mary or their handsome son Mark would never be coming home again. On that particular night after a prom, the other driver was intoxicated and driving at a high rate of speed. By doing the reconstruction, the speed of the car that crossed the center line was traveling at between 84-88 mph. The car that the kids were in was traveling between 56-60 mph in a 65 mph speed zone on the state highway.

I go to speak with Mark’s mother and father first. It is now about 3:00 a.m. Dad comes to the door. He knows that his son is not home yet and now there’s a state cop on his stoop asking him if he had a son named Mark Evans (not real name)? He quickly figures out that whatever news I have for him is not good. He’s hoping that I am going to tell him that his son has been arrested for drunk driving. Instead, I tell him that his son died in an automobile accident earlier this evening. His wife immediately joins him and asks, “Is this about Mark?” I nod. She looks at her husband who is now in full tears and she knows. She screams and falls to her knees. What am I to do?

Next, I go to visit Mary’s parents. Both parents answered the door. “Good evening, Mr. and Mrs. Wilson. Sorry to bother you this late, but I need to know if you have a daughter named Mary?” They both nod. “I’m sorry to have to inform you, but ........................................ I don’t remember what or if I said anything after that. Both parents grab each other and begin to wail. What am I to do?

I was never trained to do that part of the job.
 
win231 said:
Nothing wrong with "pi$$ing" on a murderer's grave. The truth only hurts when it should.

Please accept my sympathy for living wherever "Back Home" is for you.
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Nope. No excuse for disrespecting anyone's grave. And if you think you are worthy of disrespecting anyone's grave, you most certainly are not. This has nothing to do with truth.

Sad for you....
 
Buckeye said:
Nope. No excuse for disrespecting anyone's grave. And if you think you are worthy of disrespecting anyone's grave, you most certainly are not. This has nothing to do with truth.

Sad for you....
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Likewise.
 
So, can you imagine what the body or bodies look like after they have been extricated? It’s a terrible, terrible thing to see.
 
911 said:
So, can you imagine what the body or bodies look like after they have been extricated? It’s a terrible, terrible thing to see.
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Yes, it must be quite a mess....double the two in the Lamborghini.
I'm wondering if other street racing morons should be required to see it - maybe they'll think twice. Or, maybe they should accompany an officer to the parents' house when they notify them of their son's/daughter's death. On the other hand, the few I've chatted with will say, "Nah...they don't have the skill I have" (or something equally stupid.)
 
At traffic school, we used to show a movie titled “Signal 30.” Maybe it’s on YouTube, but if it’s one of the original movies, I doubt if it’s available. It’s pretty gory, so if it is on, I strongly advise anyone with a weak stomach to avoid it.

I taught traffic school for a 4-week period back in the late 70’s, not long after I was hired as a Trooper. I had quite a few run out of the classroom, hoping to make it to the bathroom.
 
911 said:
At traffic school, we used to show a movie titled “Signal 30.” Maybe it’s on YouTube, but if it’s one of the original movies, I doubt if it’s available. It’s pretty gory, so if it is on, I strongly advise anyone with a weak stomach to avoid it.

I taught traffic school for a 4-week period back in the late 70’s, not long after I was hired as a Trooper. I had quite a few run out of the classroom, hoping to make it to the bathroom.
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"Signal30" was shown to us in high school and it had a deep impact on me.
 

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