Sydney Fines Fishmonger for Cruelty to Lobsters

Slaughtering is not done in a way that mitigates pain and stress. It's painful and stressful from the moment of birth to transport to death. The Toronto Pig Save movement has documented six month old pigs arriving at the slaughterhouse (Freemans in Toronto) being frozen to the sides of the trucks. They are removed with box cutters and crowbars. What do you think that does to their skin if they haven't been lucky enough to freeze to death that is? And in some cases, pigs aren't stunned, but they wind up hitting the scalding tanks while still alive and the same happens to chickens. Those I believe, they refer to as 'red birds'.


You need to spend time looking at the videos of slaughterhouses all around the world to see what really goes on. Lip service is what we hear, only lip service and that goes for western methods, halal or kosher. None of it 'feels right'. Unless you're on the human side of the equation.
 

We pretend animals we kill for food are killed humanely and do not suffer pain to assuage our conscience. If you are hungry and kill to eat then you don't have to worry about conscience. But what we do is hire someone else to do it for us and it's out of sight out of mind.
 
Watch a pride of lions bring down an antelope. They're tearing it apart and eating it before it's even hit the ground.

Strip a human of any weapons and a scorpion barely longer than your little finger can kill him. The body's just meat. Ever watch maggots strip the corpse of a bird or rodent? They do a great job cleaning the bones, slick as a whistle.

Lobsters are delicious, best cooked sous-vide. They are well-known as cannibals and scavengers of dead animals.

Real life, meaning Nature, is messy. Anthropomorphizing it is a mistake.
 

I'm against lobster's tails being cut off while they're still alive....and I'm sorry, dare I say, I see an imbalance of compassion and legality between live lobster tails being cut off and pro-choice activists being okay with live human fetuses being cut up in the womb, during abortions, with a hooked knife called a curette and the parts squeezed out with forceps. A fetus reacts to touch at 8weeks. Researchers are sure the baby feels pain between 18-20 weeks but agree it could be much earlier.
 
Slaughtering in the UK and indeed most of the EU is very strictly controlled although inevitably there will be breakdown in process from time to time.

Beasts are taken out of view of those not yet ready to be processed, they are stunned using a captive bolt, and bled out while unconscious.

It's a similar process for sheep, but pigs are stunned electrically before being bled out. Again things break down sometimes but as a general rule especially here in the UK animal welfare takes a very high priority.

Except for halal slaughtering. That truely is horrendous and not subject to any significant animal welfare legislation.

People often lump halal slaughter along with Halacha (Jewish ritual slaughtering) but nothing could be further from the truth. Indeed there is a great deal of evidence that in Halacha the beast experiences very little pain if any at all, it simply collapses into unconsciousness.

There should be a (civilised) world wide ban on halal slaughtering. It is barbaric and terrible.
 
There are laws for everything nowadays, but that doesn't mean they are adhered to. Ten years of watching videos tells the truth about what goes on behind the closed doors of slaughterhouses around the world. The first thing to remember is that animals can smell the blood from miles away. We humans have 6,000,000 smell receptors but pigs for example, have 300,000,000 which means that the smell of blood and death and fear is evident to them when they are five miles away. So not only have they been ripped away from the misery that is familiar, they've often been transported for hours, in all temperatures and without food or water and often crammed into the trucks so tightly that they cannot move even to find relief from that discomfort.

And even though there are rules about stunning before slaughter, that doesn't mean it's effective or that the treatment up to that point is decent and respectful. They are frequently shocked and beaten to make them move towards their deaths. And those rules don't always mean the guys handling the equipment are skilful or that they even care about making sure the job is done properly. Also in slaughterhouses where the line moves quickly there often isn't enough time to do it properly which means that animals can often arrive at the de-limbing stations, still conscious and aware. In the USA in the big slaughterhouses, the line often moves at the speed of 300 animals per hour. An article in the Washington Post a few years ago, quoted one worker there who said cattle often arrived at his station (de-limbing), still trying to moo and looking around as they struggled. And the line was not shut down to restun and kill properly. The legs came off.

If anyone doesn't believe that what goes on in a slaughterhouse isn't as bad as halal or that it isn't barbaric and terrible, then you just don't really know and are hanging on to a delusion about 'kind killing'. It isn't kind, it's just killing. And it's killing that is not only unnecessary, but it is also wreaking havoc and ruin on the planet. In this day and age where we have the knowledge and the technology to competently replace every animal product with nutritious, tasty and useful plant based products, to continue this is to submit to habit and tradition only and at the cost of compassion.

I invite you to look at the following video of a UK slaughterhouse in Essex (?). You will notice that they are mistreated brutally before death and some are obviously not stunned as they are being killed and they are killed in front of each other.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewS5-DmKmOM

I can find dozens of videos of exactly the same treatment, but taking place in every country on the planet. And that brutality is across the board whether kosher, halal or Western.
 
That slaughterhouse is in Scotland. Although still a part of the UK and unfortunately likely to remain so, it is atypical of abattoirs across the UK. As I wrote there will always be the occasional breakdown of process but these are few, far between, and cracked down on BIG TIME when identified which is very soon after they happen because of the very frequent and unannounced inspections in addition to 'whistle blowing' by employees who really do their best to be as gentle as practical.

Halal killing is a very different matter. It is truely is brutal. The animals are not stunned, the cutting of their throat is brutal, and its pretty much uncontrolled. It is poles apart from slaughtering beasts for the kosher market.
 
That slaughterhouse is in Scotland. Although still a part of the UK and unfortunately likely to remain so, it is atypical of abattoirs across the UK. As I wrote there will always be the occasional breakdown of process but these are few, far between, and cracked down on BIG TIME when identified which is very soon after they happen because of the very frequent and unannounced inspections in addition to 'whistle blowing' by employees who really do their best to be as gentle as practical.

Halal killing is a very different matter. It is truely is brutal. The animals are not stunned, the cutting of their throat is brutal, and its pretty much uncontrolled. It is poles apart from slaughtering beasts for the kosher market.

Why. Doesn't all slaughtering come under the laws of the country?
 
Cultural, and even worse religious practices are granted dispensation in many cases. I think its appalling but political correctness all too often results in the normally unacceptable becoming accepted out of fear of causing offence.

An increasing number of European states are ignoring upsetting the Muslims and banning halal slaughter but all that happens is that animals are subjected to the horror outside of the state and the flesh of the poor things imported.

Worth note although there is huge complaint from the Muslims there is not a word of nprotest from Jewish people other than the few fanatics who would want proof that even an orange was not treif in some way before eating it.
 
Lobsters are delicious, best cooked sous-vide. They are well-known as cannibals and scavengers of dead animals.
Bottom feeders. How can you justify delicious.

My young son at about 10 years of age when questioned about why he wouldn't eat seafood.

"Dad, do you realize they swim in their own bathroom?"
 


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