Teachers quitting jobs....

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Teachers quit their jobs in record numbers during 2018
Skimpy budgets, low pay and public disrespect is prompting educators to abandon the classroom in droves

Citing low pay, widespread disrespect and potential opportunities in other fields, frustrated public-school teachers walked away from their classrooms in record numbers during 2018, according to a recent Wall Street Journal report based on U.S. Department of Labor figures.

Public education employees, including person in jobs as varied as community-college faculty, school psychologists and janitors, quitting their jobs at the fastest rate since such figures were first compiled in 2001. In the first 10 months of 2018, public educators quit at an average rate of 83 per 10,000 a month, the newspaper said, citing the Labor Department. Although the overall rate for U.S. workers was much higher — 231 jobs quit per 10,000 workers in 2018 — the figure for teachers and other public education employees was a record high and the continuation of a disturbing trend.
For years, teachers have complained that they’re overworked and under appreciated as states have stripped away work protections, cut school budgets and blamed them for student underperformance.

What’s more, as the private-sector labor market rebounded from the recession, teachers and other school workers have yet to get back to where they were more than a decade ago. “Funding for public education in several states hasn’t yet recovered from cuts during the downturn,” the Journal reported.
Encouraged by a tight labor market and low unemployment, teachers told the newspaper they expect to find more lucrative and respected jobs outside the classroom, a mass decision that is remarkable in an industry that typically hasn’t experienced such turnover turmoil.

“The educators may be finding new jobs at other schools, or leaving education altogether,” the newspaper reported. “The departures come alongside protests this year in six states where teachers in some cases shut down schools over tight budgets, small raises and poor conditions.”

A May 2018 study by the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities found that many states are providing much less school funding than they were a decade ago. That effectively shifts the burden of paying public education workers onto local governments and results in wide swings in educational equity and outcomes, according to the center’s analysis, which is based on data from the Census Bureau.
“While combined state and local funding in 2016 was nearly back to pre-recession levels nationally, state funding was down $166 per student while local funding was up $161,” the center reported.

“The shift from state to local funding raises equity concerns. Local funding relies heavily on local property taxes. Because school districts in neighborhoods with high property values find it much easier to raise adequate revenue than districts where property values are low, a shift toward more local funding can exacerbate school funding inequities.”

As a result, more and more teachers say they’re angry, and are willing to look elsewhere for their livelihood.
It has been a slow build to the recent exodus, with a trickle of departures now becoming a torrent. “It’s a lack of respect,” says Gloria Rubin, of Fairfax County, Virginia, who has taught and counseled students for more than three decades, said a 2011 interview with Fortune magazine.
“Our culture doesn’t value teaching. People think we have it easy, with short hours and the summers off. But everyone wants their child to have the best teacher.”

Since 2015, states have reported difficulty hiring qualified teachers to enter classroom positions, prompting many states to fill vacancies with temporary teachers who have little to no training, the newspapers said, pointing to studies by the Learning Policy Institute, a nonpartisan education-policy research group.
According to the Labor Department data, a million public school workers quit during the 12-month period ended in October.

Overall, more than 10 million Americans are employed in the public education sector of the nation’s economy.
In at least 12 states, public education budgets are down at least 7 percent from 2009 levels, adjusted for inflation, according to an analysis of census data by the left-leaning Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. Teacher pay across the country, adjusted for inflation, is now 5 percent lower than it was in 2009, according to data from the National Education Association, the nation’s largest teachers union.

To vent their pent-up frustrations, teachers took to the streets in 2108 to protest low pay and meager state and federal investments in their students and classrooms. The strikes earned raises for some teachers in Arizona, West Virginia and Oklahoma, but more importantly they raised an alarm over worn textbooks, poorly equipped classrooms and teacher working second jobs to make ends meet.
Alice Cain, executive Vice President of Teach Plus, a school policy group, said the protests brought attention to the plight of teacher and public educators but also pushed more educators to quit their jobs.
“Part of it was compensation,” Cain told the Wall Street Journal about the teacher protests. “But part of this was that their students weren’t valued, and that the public education system in our country isn’t a priority in so many places.”

https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/28/teachers-quit-jobs-record-rate/

(In England too!)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7130916/teachers-quit-schools/

(How awful is this for our future generations of youngsters? :()





 

"How awful is this for our future generations of youngsters?"

An under educated, ignorant population is so much easier to manipulate.
 
Um ... as the husband, son, grandson, and son-in-law of teachers, I'm more than a little skeptical. I don't care to address all of the problems I see with this piece here, but I will point out that "baby boomer" teachers have been retiring in increasing numbers since, oh ... say 2009. I didn't notice the article distinguishing between teachers who retire vs. those who quit. As for "average" salaries, when an older teacher at the top of the pay scale retires and is replaced by a new teacher at starting pay, the "average" salary goes down (duh!).
 
I was going to be a teacher. In the early 60s, there were a lot of "teacher" programs on TV. And on TV, teachers "saved" kids all the time-it was all warm & fuzzy. So I loaded up on freshman Education courses. The first day of class, several of us had to audit a High School class. We walked into a H.S. with a couple thousand students. From way down a monster hall, I heard some kid cry out, "Hey. The rookies are here!!". Everything I did to annoy my teachers came back to me. It was along list. I turned around, ran back to the college. And got rid of those damn "Education" classes. No way! Sorry , you can't pay teachers enough.
 
If it causes parents to homeschool their children then it is a case of making lemonade from lemons...the proverbial silver lining and those who are homeschooled will be heads above those who attend most of today's public schools.

I think homeschooling is the solution.
 
A reasonably good article from "The Sun" which is not usually known for serious news. When I left my job in IT, I wanted something relatively easy to tide me over till I figured out my retirement plans. I managed to get a job as a janitor / maintenance man in a medium sized state school. The work didn't require a lot of brain power, but it was a real education in itself. It soon became obvious that the support staff were more experienced and generally better qualified than the teachers. The teachers' competence varied greatly and they were generally 'blinkered' only being concerned with their own little world and with little overall view of how the school worked.

The principal was a total waste of space - full of airy fairy ideas, but no thought of instilling discipline or respect amongst the pupils. I was glad to get out. There was a fairly high degree of teacher 'attrition' - I recall at one leaving 'do', a teacher described his time there as a 'fairy tale job' - it was "Grimm".

I could ask my daughter who is a senior university lecturer in Education, about these problems - but it would take too long to type her reply. However she has in the past described how young teachers start off full of enthusiasm and after a few years are bitter and disillusioned. Some simply take the job because they get a bonus after a few years, and then they leave and get something they really want.

On the subject of having a relevant university degree - I think that this is over-sold. Isn't it more important to have a teacher who can inspire and deliver a subject, than one who is an expert in it ?
 
IMO it's time to rethink basic K-12 education.

With today's technology, every child in America should be able to have access to lectures and testing from the best teachers in the world available online to provide them with basic instruction on any subject. A child should be able to progress at their own speed with a curriculum tailored to their own particular interests and needs. The brick and mortar schools could become learning centers with a much smaller staff devoted to helping children resolve problems, coaching, tutoring, etc...
 
No No No... School is a lot more than 'Bricks and mortar'. It provides an opportunity for games, physical and social interaction, co-operation etc... as well as the specialised equipment and hands on tuition for experiments etc - all part of education. This could be even more important in rural areas where school provides the main opportunity for young people to meet, form friendships etc.

For similar reasons, I am uneasy about 'home schooling' unless social interaction, sport etc. is provided away from home.
 
There's a lot of professions that go through periods where they can't attract or keep qualified people. Sometimes those 'qualifications' aren't necessary. Hearing some stories that some school districts are going to use real experience in a related field to teach like an engineer to teach math or science. And yes with all the technology out there in days past where a tutor or after school session would be required now the computer and internet can substitute. This is years old news actually but 60 Minutes did a thing on internet math tutorials by the name of Khan I think which actually improved many a student's math grades.

Yes teachers are extremely valuable but at the sametime I think many over rate the traditional master degree/'certified' teacher. The same could be said for many professions. Coming from an era where you didn't need a college degree to enter management I've seen too many who progressed through the ranks with outstanding job knowledge that could drive circles around the college kids in many industries.

Also alot of these 'losing' or 'quitting' people articles/studies are funded by or are for unions or those who benefit by retention and raises.
 
No No No... School is a lot more than 'Bricks and mortar'. It provides an opportunity for games, physical and social interaction, co-operation etc... as well as the specialised equipment and hands on tuition for experiments etc - all part of education. This could be even more important in rural areas where school provides the main opportunity for young people to meet, form friendships etc.

For similar reasons, I am uneasy about 'home schooling' unless social interaction, sport etc. is provided away from home.

I strongly agree.
 
I taught high school and middle school in the 90's and 00's. The whole education system needs standardization, across the board. That will never happen, though, as it would eliminate the old pros who want to keep doing things their way, even though their way is wrong! School is a baby sitting system, now, and the babies are too terrible to tolerate, in most cases. I started with eight other new teachers. When I left, only one of my group was left. She quit the following year. There is no need for twelve years of formal primary and secondary education, now, before college. Teachers know it and the kids know it. With the internet and computer learning, a hybrid system should be developed that allows younger people to hold meaningful jobs, while taking internet classes. Hopefully it'll be developed, but I'm not holding my breath. FWIW, while I know a good number of successful home schooled students, I also know they had exceptionally qualified parents as their teachers. I shudder to think of the ignorant teaching their own kids, and I know most parents would fail, miserably, at the task.
 
I am a retired teacher. Loved the kids (well, most of 'em!) hated the paperwork, and dealing with parents who never said "no" to their child and expected me to not say "no" either. And don't even get me started on the administration!! Teaching is an undervalued profession, and definitely not for the faint of heart.
 
So I had a kid who had been "homeschooled" come to my third grade class. His parents were in the medical profession. He could barely write his name, and couldn't spell cat. But by golly, he could tell me all about what was on the Discovery channel. Had another little girl who was having trouble in math, so I asked her mother if she could help her with her addition and subtraction skills. Mom told me she (the mom) didn't understand "higher math." You call that "heads above"? I don't think so. Homeschooling is only as good as the parent doing the schooling, and I promise you most parents where I taught were not up to the task.
 
"how awful is this for our future generations of youngsters?"

an under educated, ignorant population is so much easier to manipulate.



if it causes parents to homeschool their children then it is a case of making lemonade from lemons...the proverbial silver lining and those who are homeschooled will be heads above those who attend most of today's public schools.


I think homeschooling is the solution.



^ this ^


Karl Marx wanted to take education of children away from their parents.
That is why Marx's Communist Manifesto advocates all children be taught
in government public schools.

" Manifesto of the Communist Party" - Chapter II. Proletarians and Communists

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Education is what the student and teachers/those responsible put into it like many other things.

I know parents that pulled their kids out of a public school system pulling them away from deteriorating conditions & student body. They were already AP material. Anyway they wound up learning how to party with illegal drugs at that private school which they now do as adult over 25 years later. The same parents had another child graduate that same public school system years earlier and they are the most successful career wise in the family. The private school kid is even mocked by his parents for having a bunch of useless factoids. They did graduate college in the liberal arts and has had about 3 dozen gig jobs since graduating.

I also know of other parents who pulled their kids out of public school, home schooled them to keep them out of trouble and they experienced academic and team sports success.

Home school, private school or public school should be looked at as a tool. It all depends on the job to be done.
 
Here in Britain far too much government interference,usually designed to prove teachers are incompetent,and levels of admin over and above the normal lesson preparation and marking leave teachers with no time for a life outside school.It's no wonder teachers are quitting.
I got into Supply teaching and when covering it was often remarked how fresh I was.I covered for too many teachers who were off work with stress.Pre National Curriculum things were so much better.
 
My daughter subs each year and loves it as her students are n the gifted program. She says they require more work from her which she loves. Its a challenge to her to challenge them. She however will not teach the older grades as the kids are wild and physically try to harm the teachers.
 


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