The Easiest and the Hardest Places to Live in the USA

Again, all those red states in the south east of the US were once all solid Democrat states and were very depressed areas to live in. I don't know if they are all Republican these days, if so, then maybe they have a chance to improve. Some of the northern states industries have move branches to those southern states. Many importing countries put their plants in the south for various reasons. Some of those states have modern and prosperous larger cities but much is still rural and that means less prosperous for many folks.
 

The irony or proof of mentality is that the south who use by far most of the social welfare go to the polls and vote for those who want to take that same welfare away.
 
QuickSilver said:
Yes bob.... the are ALL Repubican.. and proof positive that Conservative Republican policies DO NOT WORK....
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It will take some years to get rid of all the Democrat mistakes in those southern states. You said all states are now Republican, are you just ignoring any Democrat states? I guess I will have to look that up. How about W Virginia or maybe Mississippi. Just not sure so I will look at the party maps after a bit.
 
AZ Jim said:
The irony or proof of mentality is that the south who use by far most of the social welfare go to the polls and vote for those who want to take that same welfare away.
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Do you really expect them to give up a free given by the earlier days of Democrat controls. Likely not and that is one of the problems of all this give away stuff being proposed. Once given, nobody wants to go back to work or give it back.
 
OK, you are correct according to this graphic. Only since 1964 have Republicans been in charge down south. Prior to that from the beginning of the US it was driven by the Democrats.

http://ballotpedia.org/Gubernatorial_and_legislative_party_control_of_state_government
[h=2]Trifectas[/h]
See also: Ballotpedia:Who Runs the States, Partisanship Results, State Government Trifectas

As of November 2015, there are 7 Democratic and 24 Republican trifectas. A trifecta is when one political party holds these three positions in a state's government:




The concept of the trifecta is important in state lawmaking because in many states, the governor, senate majority leader and house majority leader play decisive roles in the legislative process.
 
BobF said:
It will take some years to get rid of all the Democrat mistakes in those southern states. You said all states are now Republican, are you just ignoring any Democrat states? I guess I will have to look that up. How about W Virginia or maybe Mississippi. Just not sure so I will look at the party maps after a bit.
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You have just proven to me that you have ZERO understanding of politics... and that you didn't bother to look at the video..

ONLY since 1964? You mean like 51 years ago??? seriously.... Not enough time?? what a hoot...
 
OMG. In the twentieth century, before assistance was available, people starved. In the big city slums in America, Canada, Britain, the Continent and elsewhere, abject poverty, disease, child prostitution, infant mortality were epidemic. Eight year old

kids begging on the street, freezing to death in doorways, or raped, beaten, and killed by predators. In hard hit rural areas things were not much better. Working for pennies while the rich lined their pocketbooks created a huge underclass. Women

died by the thousands from childbed fever due to unsanitary conditions, and unavailability of decent medical care. We must never allow such a class disparity to be viewed as acceptable again. All persons have the right to live in safety and dignity, with

adequate nutrition, healthcare, and educational opportunities made available. All have the right to be heard, and participate in the political process. Diminishing. the poor reduces us all, basic standard of living is not a handout. Most people want more

than that for themselves and their children, given the opportunity to work for a living wage, they will go for it. Now, even the middle class is under attack. If we are not vigilant, old patterns will emerge. If pushed far enough people will take to the streets., scary stuff. The time is coming when the lies of the one percent will come back to haunt them.
 
Prove to me I have zero understanding of politics. What I posted about the Democrats in the south is true. I did start to watching the film. Did not take long till I gave up. Certainly not interesting and pretty much out of control with speaker and others all talking.

Do you constantly need to put down those the don't just love what you think is better? Pretty cheap shots you give to any detractor of your ideas.
 
BobF said:
Prove to me I have zero understanding of politics. What I posted about the Democrats in the south is true. I did start to watching the film. Did not take long till I gave up. Certainly not interesting and pretty much out of control with speaker and others all talking.

Do you constantly need to put down those the don't just love what you think is better? Pretty cheap shots you give to any detractor of your ideas.
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Yes bob ZERO understanding, and just calling it like I see it.. What the South was prior to 1964 was DIXIEcrats.a bunch of bigoted racist and WHITE good ole boys.. Not Democrats.. when LBJ passed the civil rights legislation they pitched a fit and joined the Republican party... a much better fit for them anyway... Since 1964 their Republican policies have kept the South poor. The BLUE States are doing quite well by the way.. Proof that Democratic policies WORK.. You cannot seriously look at that map and think you can make a case... Republican policies and ideology are just plain bad for people... and don't work.....that is unless you belong to the top 1%.


OK... I'll educate you .. not that you will pay the least bit of attention.. or even understand it..

The States' Rights Democratic Party (usually called the Dixiecrats) was a short-lived segregationistpolitical party in the United States in 1948. It originated as a breakaway faction of the Democratic Partyin 1948, determined to protect what they portrayed as the southern way of life beset by an oppressive federal government,[SUP][1][/SUP] and supporters assumed control of the state Democratic parties in part or in full in several Southern states. The States' Rights Democratic Party opposed racial integration and wanted to retain Jim Crow laws and white supremacy in the face of possible federal intervention. Members were called Dixiecrats. (The term Dixiecrat is a portmanteau of Dixie, referring to the Southern United States, and Democrat.)

The party did not run local or state candidates, and after the 1948 election its leaders generally returned to the Democratic Party.[SUP][2][/SUP] The Dixiecrats had little short-run impact on politics. However, they did have a long-term impact. The Dixiecrats began the weakening of the "Solid South" (the Democratic Party's total control of presidential elections in the South).[SUP][3][/SUP]
The term "Dixiecrat" is sometimes used by Northern Democrats to refer to conservative Southern Democrats from the 1940s to the 1990s, regardless of where they stood in 1948.[SUP][4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat[/SUP]
 
You are projecting your bias and ignoring the history of the Democrat party in the south lands. Dixiecrats are only a very short time of the Democrat control of the southern states. What you are igoring is the history of the Democrats in the southern states. You are only focused on the days of the Dixiecrat's who finally decided the needed to leave the Democrats and move to what was a better source for honesty and fairness to all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

Southern Democrats are members of the U.S. Democratic Party who reside in the American South.
In the 19th century, Southern Democrats comprised whites in the South who believed in Jeffersonian democracy. In the 1850s they defended slavery in the United States, and promoted its expansion into the West against northern Free Soil opposition. The United States presidential election, 1860 formalized the split, and brought war. After Reconstruction ended in the late 1870s they controlled all the Southern states and disenfranchised blacks (who were Republicans). The "Solid South" gave nearly all its electoral votes to Democrats in presidential elections. Republicans seldom were elected to office outside some Appalachian mountain districts.
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And on and on about racial hatred and poor policies until in the 1900's when Republicans were starting to gain some interest. Then you point out the Dixiecrat's were a problem that left the Democrat party and joined the Republican party. Why not? They were tired of the biased and power crazed politics of those days and wanted a better home. Now the Republican party has slowly gained electoral power and run those southern states. So for 200 years of crazy and biased leadership that kept that part of the US in poverty and racial distress, we should be happy that now there are industries arriving in the south. Integration of races now allowed. It will take more than 50 years to drag those states away from their historically poorly run status under the Democrats and bring the some real freedoms and support from those folks to the Republican party again. Most of their voting age needs to be educated to the realities of what our Constitution means and how that is being altered by the current government.

Not sure who is the most confused about this government as going full out liberal is dangerous to the country and does not do well for the people either. Think left is better? Just look to Europe and see how those people are forced to live. Housing is more expensive than in the US and the sizes are about half of the US, or Canada, or Australia. Only the very wealthy can afford anything close to what we have in the US for the average person.
 
The point is..... For the last 50+ years, the American South has been predominantly under Republican control... a direct result of the civil rights movement and the passage of civil rights legislation.. Dixiecrats all moved over to the Republican party as it's ideology was far more suited to the continuation of segregation and Jim Crow laws.. The American South had to be dragged kicking and screaming into accepting equality.. It does so now... grudgingly. The State Houses and governorships of the South are predominantly sewed up by Republicans who are free to legislate according to their doctrines. The South lags behind all other parts of the country.. economically... particularly the Blue Democratic States.. draw your own conclusions Bob.. but republican doctrine is VERY bad for the poor and middle class.. if you use the South as a petri dish. We are not talking about Europe bob.. we only have to look at our own map to see where the better policies reside.
 
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QuickSilver said:
The point is..... For the last 50+ years, the American South has been predominantly under Republican control... a direct result of the civil rights movement and the passage of civil rights legislation.. Dixiecrats all moved over to the Republican party as it's ideology was far more suited to the continuation of segregation and Jim Crow laws.. The American South had to be dragged kicking and screaming into accepting equality.. It does so now... grudgingly. The State Houses and governorships of the South are predominantly sewed up by Republicans who are free to legislate according to their doctrines. The South lags behind all other parts of the country.. economically... particularly the Blue Democratic States.. draw your own conclusions Bob.. but republican doctrine is VERY bad for the poor and middle class.. If you use the South as a petri dish.
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How totally distorted is your thinking. You obviously did not take time to read the post as your response has been too quick. It was the Democrats that were creating segregation, not the Republicans. You have a lot to learn.
 
Again, after 200 years of enforce poverty under the Democrats you expect the Republicans to have all the laws and built in biases corrected in 50 years. How wrong you are.

Isn't it nice that industries are moving south now? Isn't it nice that foreign countries are building businesses in the south now? I think so and so should everyone else.
 
More deaths in the south per capita..... Could that be related to lack of healthcare and the refusal to expand Medicaid under the ACA? just sayin'

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Again, more of your confusion.

I guess I will have to leave this thread for now. Much more important things to do than rebut all these confused posts.
 
BobF said:
Again, after 200 years of enforce poverty under the Democrats you expect the Republicans to have all the laws and built in biases corrected in 50 years. How wrong you are.

Isn't it nice that industries are moving south now? Isn't it nice that foreign countries are building businesses in the south now? I think so and so should everyone else.
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REALLY bob? 50+ years of Republican control is too long to reverse the scorge of the Democrats?? YET... it seems to me that you are so quick to point out all the imagined failures of the Obama Administration after only 7 years of trying to undo the damage caused by George Bush.. Your credibility is below ZERO bob as you spout your hypocritical nonsense.
 
Isn't it nice that industries are moving south now? Isn't it nice that foreign countries are building businesses in the south now? I think so and so should everyone else.
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Nice? Nice for who?? Certainly not the people living in the south.. Nice for the corporations who take advantage of the tax breaks and pay minimum wages to the people working in their factories.. Nice for the corporations to not have to deal with unions.. so they make even more profit off the backs of the Southern workers. Profits that are not taxed.. and sent over seas to tax shelters.. True to form.. the Republicans of the south are bending over backwards to help corporations make a profit while sticking it to their people. As the article states... the South is the hardest place for the average person to live.. and it all boils down to Republican governance.
 
QuickSilver said:
REALLY bob? 50+ years of Republican control is too long to reverse the scorge of the Democrats?? YET... it seems to me that you are so quick to point out all the imagined failures of the Obama Administration after only 7 years of trying to undo the damage caused by George Bush.. Your credibility is below ZERO bob as you spout your hypocritical nonsense.
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There goes another of your emotional distortions about the truth. Bush did not create a mess for Obama to fix. Obama has created enough for more than one life time to correct. I speak as a true American and not one wanting to change the US into a European model of government. They do not work well for the benefit of the people.
 
BobF said:
There goes another of your emotional distortions about the truth. Bush did not create a mess for Obama to fix. Obama has created enough for more than one life time to correct. I speak as a true American and not one wanting to change the US into a European model of government. They do not work well for the benefit of the people.
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The European model of government doesn't work??! For a start, in Europe healthcare is a right, not a privilege as it is in the US.
 
My country has a European form of government which works very well for the people. We have healthcare for all, and per capita, less violence, racism, homelessness, crime, abject poverty than a certain republic. When judging a system of government, it is beneficial to study and understand it first.
 

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