The most controversial thread ever posted in this Forum!

I wear sloggi s White red and black
No thick wired bras for me only comfort !
Go google these !!! Lol
 
Lavinia said:
Passion-killers will be the order of the day until men learn to value women as people in their own right. Is a man excited by the frilly undies or the woman wearing them? Is he turned on by the thought that she is wearing them to please him? Why do men like stockings and suspenders and garters?
On the other side of the coin, so few men dress smartly these days. This can be a turn-off for women. A shirt and tie is so much more alluring than a scruffy t-shirt. I particularly like to see a man wearing a proper coat, rather than a jacket.
Cops....motorbikes....leather....now that's a turn-on for most women.
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I wonder, does anyone find the words here a bit odd? On one hand it seems to criticizes men for objectifying women based on their clothing choices and encourages valuing women as individuals. However, on the other hand it seems to make assumptions about what women find attractive in men based on their clothing choices, suggesting that men who dress smartly are more appealing to women.

Could the words here be seen as pretty must saying similar things, in that could the words here be seen as reinforcing gender stereotypes, such as suggesting that men are primarily attracted to women based on their clothing and that women are generally attracted to certain "masculine" things like cops, motorbikes, and leather, based on their clothing. Fascinating.

I can’t help wondering whether the responses to this post would be significantly different depending on whether the words were typed by a man or a woman. Depending on gender of the originator, would any backlash be significantly different?
 
oldaunt said:
Unless I need it for dressy wear, what's the point? I swear, MEN invented those things. Also, can do without anything that even slightly restricts my breathing. Hard enough as it is.
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Sloggi is comfort wear , or exercise wear, nothing dressy or fancy about this underwear….
 
Gaer said:
Anyone remember men's "UNDERSHIRTS"?
hahahaha!
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My last husband wore a white undershirt to bed. Me? I don't like nighties....so imagine when we cuddled up, me holding a cotton shirt for interference....instead of warm skin.....and me thinking, "poor fool. He doesn't know what he's been missing with his last wife or me'!
Notice I said last , as in long gone? Thought so.;)
 
Rose65 said:
I like comfort, sensible warm clothes. I'm long past caring otherwise.
What more can I say?
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Oh, I totally agree! I am long past being part of the scenario I painted in connection with my theory! :LOL: It was fun posting it and I am happy about the many responses. Glad that folks took it the right way! It was supposed to be a lighthearted distraction!
 
Old Salt said:
Oh, I totally agree! I am long past being part of the scenario I painted in connection with my theory! :LOL: It was fun posting it and I am happy about the many responses. Glad that folks took it the right way! It was supposed to be a lighthearted distraction!
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I don't know. I think at any age, if you have a love, you should always try to infuse fun and teasing
a little unexpected frivolity into the relationship. This might be dolling up a bit to go to bed. (tee-hee!)
 
oldaunt said:
Kind of boils down to whats the point of the fancy undies when women are walking around without much for clothes....not enough to cover the underwear anyway
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Mini skirts were the end of my world as a young man. I loved them at first but then, very quickly, pantyhose was introduced so nothing intimate would ever be revealed! (and rightly so) So we got a look at more leg, big deal! The tease factor died out. There were many times when I wished longer skirts would come back, together with appealing undies! Remember I am NOT that man now! Just saying! :)
 
Gaer said:
I don't know. I think at any age, if you have a love, you should always try to infuse fun and teasing
a little unexpected frivolity into the relationship. This might be dolling up a bit to go to bed. (tee-hee!)
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Thank you, Gaer, you spoke right out of my heart! Nothing wrong with a bit of extra spice in a relationship!
 
Magna-Carta said:
I wonder, does anyone find the words here a bit odd? On one hand it seems to criticizes men for objectifying women based on their clothing choices and encourages valuing women as individuals. However, on the other hand it seems to make assumptions about what women find attractive in men based on their clothing choices, suggesting that men who dress smartly are more appealing to women.

Could the words here be seen as pretty must saying similar things, in that could the words here be seen as reinforcing gender stereotypes, such as suggesting that men are primarily attracted to women based on their clothing and that women are generally attracted to certain "masculine" things like cops, motorbikes, and leather, based on their clothing. Fascinating.

I can’t help wondering whether the responses to this post would be significantly different depending on whether the words were typed by a man or a woman. Depending on gender of the originator, would any backlash be significantly different?
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The point I was trying to make is that men tend to think that it's all about them and women should dress to please them. They should consider the feelings of women too. Women are also attracted to certain clothing and aspects of the male body. Sleeves rolled up to the elbows, exposing muscular, hairy forearms.....etc. If men want their partners to dress to please them, they should take the trouble to find out what she likes and try to do the same.
 
Lavinia said:
The point I was trying to make is that men tend to think that it's all about them and women should dress to please them. They should consider the feelings of women too. Women are also attracted to certain clothing and aspects of the male body. Sleeves rolled up to the elbows, exposing muscular, hairy forearms.....etc. If men want their partners to dress to please them, they should take the trouble to find out what she likes and try to do the same.
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The point I was trying to make is that men tend to think that and women should dress to please them. They should consider the feelings of women too. Women are also attracted to certain clothing and aspects of the male body. Sleeves rolled up to the elbows, exposing muscular, hairy forearms.....etc. If men want their partners to dress to please them, they should take the trouble to find out what she likes and try to do the same.

Even here, look at the words you are using and how you are using them. There seems to be so much generalisation here that those generalisations me square in the face. Generalisations you are giving regarding both sexes

“men tend to”,

“it's all about them”

“They should consider the feelings of women too”

“Women are…”

Is there a generational or societal thing going on there. Are you prepared to tell us about the men that you see around you?

I’m not recognising the things you say, in the way in which you put it. As a man, I don’t ‘tend’ to do the things you say. The men around me don’t ‘tend’ to either. And I sure the generalisation’s your words make of woman and their preferences aren’t a given either. I like to think I should know, I speak with enough of them. Sometimes I quite surprised to what extent some woman tell me about their preferences they have in men. Most of the women I come across are far more ‘visual’ when it comes to men than I was led to believe, or so they tell me.

What I often find is that one gender is quick to call out the other, but the other gender has collectively lost some aspects of their anatomy when calling out the other. Perhaps due to a fear of an immediate backlash in response. An unlevel playing field between the genders it seems, on this aspect? I then wonder what in society has caused one gender to loose aspects of their masculinity.

There are stereotypes I see given towards me. One example might be that I notice children more than, and earlier than, I notice adults. If I walk into a room it’s the children I notice first – all of them. Maybe this could do with something in my own upbringing or my childhood. I see children far more important that most adults. But these days, god help me if in public I’m seeing noticing a child in. I get a very stern look from the child’s mother, and then the poor child gets pulled on the arm by the mother. I can’t help wondering what messaged this gives to the child. Contrary to popular belief, I used to be a child; I can very much remember what being a child was like. Unfortunately I see this often, even when I’m in a public place such as a supermarket, full of hundreds of people. I didn’t realise that my smile (as a man) towards a child could be seen as such a weapon, or with aggression. I wonder which gender does most stereotyping.

Your words in both posts seem full of stereotypes. Do you want to talk with me about stereotypes and generalisations.
 
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