The most recent covid vax booster tested on mice.

[Rich]

Chic:
So you got a bad flu AFTER the vax? I rarely catch the flu so I don't get a flu shot though other members of my family do. I'm doing okay with building a healthy immune system. This works for me.

Perhaps I'm confused about how natural immunity works. Certain viruses are sort of "one and done". Once you've been infected, your immune system seems to remember that virus, and you will not be infected again. Examples would be measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox. This would be natural immunity.
In many of these cases, vaccines are available that expose your immune system to, for lack of a better description, a dormant version of the virus, and your immune system then protects you as though you had been exposed to the "live" virus. I can understand trying the natural immunity system for non-lethal viruses, but Covid has proven to be lethal for many. Millions have perished, and there's a fairly weak explanation as to why some perish and others have minimal symptoms.
So, when you mention that you're building a healthy immune system, how does that work? For instance, did you build a natural immunity to smallpox or did you get vaccinated? How about polio? Did you somehow build an immunity to polio, or did you get vaccinated? How do you determine which vaccines are beneficial and which are unnecessary?

I apologize in advance if this note sounds cynical or sarcastic; it's not meant to be. I'm genuinely curious concerning your system of building a healthy immune system to ward off deadly viruses without vaccines.

 

[hearlady]

We should remember that the Covid vaccines are a protection from the worse symptoms, it won't prevent you from getting Covid itself, it just minimizes the impact on us poor old people.

As for the mice.... people forget how miraculous the Covid Vaccine was. For example, it took 23 years to develop the Polio vaccine. They gave us Covid-19 in 12 months. It was developed and rolled out so quickly because people were dying (7m dead thus far) and it was a global pandemic. Local health services were getting overwhelmed, they were building hospital wards in car parks! Hospitals were running out of oxygen. It was against this background the Covid vaccine was developed and rolled out quickly.

Of course, we've since found that the vaccine was harmful to some people, there simply wasn't time for full testing in humans. There have been around 50,000 deaths globally that point toward the vaccine as a cause. This is tragic, of course. But Covid killed 7m, and those 50,000 are out of 5.5bn people vaccinated. It's a tiny percentage. Personally I've had three shots, all Pfizer.. I'll get the fourth too.

As for flu, we forget that Flu started as an epidemic. In 1918 it swept the world and killed 50m people! Today we're immune to the worst of it, because it stills makes us ill. However, I don't get the flu vaccine. Why? Well, my mother and father had it every year, and each and every time they got flu symptoms and felt unwell for a few days. Now, it's impossible to get the flu from the vaccine, but on the other hand, if you're going to get ill anyway... 650,000 people a year die of flu!

Sometimes we get it wrong and it would certainly help to have hind site.
I think your post is a reasonable take.
We've all learned a lot from covid.

 

[Rose65]

When that last Covid virus hit, I had never in my life ever had the flu of any kind.

Since I turned 60, I have started to get the annual flu shot, just in case. I got my flu shot and a few weeks later I got the Covid shot when it was first out. A few weeks later I got Covid and a few weeks after that I got the flu. I went to the doctor both times to find out what I had, that's how I found out what was going on. I did not get real sick with either of these flu episodes. Tired, fever, aches, and a little diarrhea. But nothing really bad and only lasted 3-4 days.

So this year, I will get the flu shot and will not get the Covid shot...

Much like me. Flu one makes sense but I just don't know about the covid one.

 

[Murrmurr]

The most recent covid vax booster for the Eris variant seem to have only been tested on mice.

Pfizer's updated COVID shot effective against 'Eris' variant in mice study

Should note this seems to the be case with other covid vax boosters

What's crucial about this is that it's the lowest test standard that's ever been allowed in the history of vaccine testing. That the covid vaccine is the first vaccine ever to use the mRna delivery system makes the substandard testing even more alarming.

The FDA and CDC were told that the mRna would not enter the cells of our blood and organs, but it did. The FDA and CDC were lied to about adverse events during human trials, and the way those trials were conducted was egregiously substandard. The kindest word for it is sloppy.

VigiAccess, an organization of the WHO that keeps a global record of adverse events reported by people (re: drugs, vaccines, and treatments of all kinds) shows that, since 2020, there were over 4million reports of various adverse events after receiving the mRna covid vaccine. And that data only includes reports by people who bothered reporting. The actual number of adverse events could be twice that or more.

VEARS is the USA's organization for reporting adverse events. VEARS data shows 1million adverse events were reported after the covid vaccine, but the actual number is certainly much higher. According to VEARS, Americans are the worst at reporting adverse events. We just can't be arsed.

 

[Rose65]

I've decided not to have the vaccine any more. I did everything asked if me up to now, but finally I am having to concede it is not all trustworthy. I just don't want my immune system messed about any more.

 

[John cycling]

Covid has proven to be lethal for many. Millions have perished

That's been proven many times over and over to be false, a lie promoted and perpetuated by the toxic petroleum-chemical drug corporations in order to make billions of $$$ for themselves while deluding people into taking their poisonous, debilitating and often deadly clot shots, which people have been dying from.

Personally, I have never gotten a toxic poisonous so called "vaccination" my entire adult life, and I have never been sick from a virus.

What have people been excessively dying from the last few years then, if not from a virus?
> medical malpractices;
> being force paralyzed, intubated against their will, starved with antibiotics, and choked to death;
> more than 90% of people force intubated against their will have been murdered from that barbarian treatment;
> car accidents, arrows, gunshots, cancer, heart problems, etc, misdiagnosed as a virus;
> the media falsely repeating the lies promoted by the toxic chemical corporations;
> people like yourself who keep repeating those same lies;
> this list can go on and on and on ...

It is routine for people to die in hospitals from medical malpractices and barbarian treatments, such as blotched surgeries, excessive radiation, chemical therapies, forced intubation etc, and doctors falsely stating the cause of death was a "disease" like cancer, heart problems, mysterious viruses that have never been proven to exist, etc. This is nothing new. It has been happening for quite a long time.

@Rich - Observation of reality.

 

[Rich]

That's been proven many times over and over to be false, a lie promoted and perpetuated by the toxic petroleum-chemical drug corporations in order to make billions of $$$ for themselves while deluding people into taking their poisonous, debilitating and often deadly clot shots, which people have been dying from.

Personally, I have never gotten a toxic poisonous so called "vaccination" my entire adult life, and I have never been sick from a virus.

What have people been excessively dying from the last few years then, if not from a virus?
> medical malpractices;
> being force paralyzed, intubated against their will, starved with antibiotics, and choked to death;
> more than 90% of people force intubated against their will have been murdered from that barbarian treatment;
> car accidents, arrows, gunshots, cancer, heart problems, etc, misdiagnosed as a virus;
> the media falsely repeating the lies promoted by the toxic chemical corporations;
> people like yourself who keep repeating those same lies;
> this list can go on and on and on ...

It is routine for people to die in hospitals from medical malpractices and barbarian treatments, such as blotched surgeries, excessive radiation, chemical therapies, forced intubation etc, and doctors falsely stating the cause of death was a "disease" like cancer, heart problems, mysterious viruses that have never been proven to exist, etc. This is nothing new. It has been happening for quite a long time.

What is your source for this data?