The nurse found guilty of murdering babies

Good people can be made to seem bad and bad people can be made to seem good.

I'm not the most trusting person when it comes to other people.
 

What's puzzling is there wasn't a guilty verdict on 6 counts. It almost seems like some aren't convinced. Serial killers usually have a trigger and use the same method. It's shows how methodical she was killing the children differently to avoid detection.
that's exactly right... she killed them in so many different ways and especially prem babies, it was hard to determine if she did it or had they died naturally...

The murderer was an only child..adore by the parent who had her late in life. They lived 100 miles away in her childhood home.. they did everything possible to give her a good life.. yet...the media are portraying them as someone who due to their love. may have created a Narcissist monster...who always craved attention..


One psychologist connected to the case has suggested Letby was a 'covert narcissist'.

Having been at the centre of her parents' universe for so long, she craved the attention she had received since childhood and, once she was living away from them, needed to find it elsewhere.

Other text messages sent throughout her murderous spree reveal how she sought sympathy and admiration from colleagues.

After the death of her first victim - Baby A - in June 2015, a fellow nurse sent her a message which read: 'I hope you are OK, you were brilliant.'

Letby responded: 'It was the hardest thing I've ever had to do... Just a big shock for us all. Hard coming in tonight and seeing the parents.'

Since her arrest, he believes they would have been caught between 'shock, disbelief, maybe even denial, and leading up to the trial, they would have clung on to some semblance of hope that she might get a not guilty [verdict].

'Obviously, that's all come crashing down.'



Seems you can't do right for doing wrong as a parent
 
Normally I don't like witch hunts but in this case the hospital managers who refused to listen to warnings by doctors should each be arrested, interrogated, prosecuted, then jailed for failure to prevent harm to the most vulnerable of babies and distress to their parents. This was massive concerted disregard to warning bells. Also work practice should be reviewed in that no one nurse should be allowed to treat babies on her own, always fail-safes should be in place. Two at least together for every case, checking work.
I agree. I'm wondering if it is possible. After the Paradise camp fire a man called a San Francisco Newstalk station literally in tears because his aunt and uncle had died in the fire. The station had a guest attorney and the callers question was the same, will any of these Pacific Gas & Electric executives (the company is blamed for the fire) go to prison. The attorney explained it in a way I can't recount. But he said no. These corporations are set up in a way that these damn people are protected. The company can be sued but individuals cannot.

I wonder if something is the same here. The hospital can be sued, but not the egregious individuals involved.
 
I agree. I'm wondering if it is possible. After the Paradise camp fire a man called a San Francisco Newstalk station literally in tears because his aunt and uncle had died in the fire. The station had a guest attorney and the callers question was the same, will any of these Pacific Gas & Electric executives (the company is blamed for the fire) go to prison. The attorney explained it in a way I can't recount. But he said no. These corporations are set up in a way that these damn people are protected. The company can be sued but individuals cannot.

I wonder if something is the same here. The hospital can be sued, but not the egregious individuals involved.
Let's hope their conscience is forever troubled.
Certainly they face God one day and from that there is no escape.
 
There was a segment@this on The Law&Crime channel

O M G.. didn't know how horrendous it was.🙄
 
So now Letby is appealing.
Is there really the slightest chance that she could be innocent?
I just feel enraged that she could now be wasting time and money to appeal.
 
This is again in the news, with doubt being shed by some experts on some of the evidence.
Could there be any real possibility that Lucy Letby is innocent? I assumed it was a fair and proper trial.
 
the problem with this particular case was senior Doctors were reporting this nurse , and seniors Hospital managers were refusing to believe she did anything wrong.. and one senior Doctor was reportedly told to apologise to the murdering nurse...
In my opinion the hospital managers are guilty too and should be punished for their negligence.

I remember a woman who murdered several of her husbands with poison. In one case the son of a victim told the doctor of his suspicion, but was reprimanded how he could think such bad of a "very friendly old woman".
 
This is HM prison Low Newton... this is a cell in General population where Murderer of babies Letby will serve out her 14 life sentences...That'll teach her won't it ?...:oops::oops::oops:

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..a shop where they can buy clothing..
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Looking at the pics of this 'prison', being there is not a punishment but almost a reward for her heinous crimes.
 
Here's a horrendous story from Canada...

Pickton had killed 49 women and disposed of their remains in the most gruesome manner - by feeding them to the herds of pigs he kept on his farm. He even ground some of the human flesh into mince, mixed it with pork, and sold it to meat processing businesses, family members, friends, and even the local police.

He had lured the women who mostly worked as sex workers in Vancouver's Red Light district to his home where he imprisoned them, tortured and then murdered them. Their bodies were then either fed to his pigs or put through an industrial meat grinder.


When the police finally arrived Pickton's pigs had foraged so furiously on the victims that there was nothing left of them. He was only caught after a search of his property revealed an asthma inhaler belonging to one of his victims. But he refused to co-operate with police and as a result an undercover Mountie posed as a cellmate - as they spoke Pickton began to brag about his crimes.
For years rumours had circulated about strange comings and goings at his pig farm but it was dismissed by local police - many of whom bought meat from him - as drunken gossip. The reality was the wealthy pig farmer mainly preyed upon drug addicts and prostitutes, picking them up in Vancouver’s red light district before driving them to his farm, where he had sex with them before murdering them in a variety of horrific ways.



He allegedly handcuffed and stabbed other victims, including one woman who managed to escape, naked and bleeding, in 1997 after stabbing Pickton with his own knife. At the time the woman was considered an unreliable witness by police and Pickton was not prosecuted.


The clothes and rubber boots Pickton had been wearing that evening were seized by police and left in an police storage locker for more than seven years. Not until 2004 did lab testing show that the DNA of two missing women was on the items seized from Pickton in 1997



When he was finally arrested in February 2002, it was almost by chance. Investigators had raided his pig farm looking for illicit weapons, only to find items belonging to long-missing women. A search of Pickton’s farm revealed DNA evidence of 26 missing women, mostly of indigenous origin, and he was charged with their murders.


No-one had known the eccentric scruffy farmer was one of the deadliest serial killers in history. In a documentary crime author Wensley Clarkson said: "Robert Pickton was a serial killer who made the Texas Chainsaw Massacre look like an attraction at Disneyland.


"There was nothing about him which made him standout, he didn't have great personal hygiene and he would hold barn dances with bikers and women and alcohol. He was known locally for using prostitutes and had a perchant for indigenous women but when large numbers went missing no one made the connnection."

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Oh my God, in comparison to this man, Jack the Ripper was a boy at a YMCA meeting.
 
Looking at the pics of this 'prison', being there is not a punishment but almost a reward for her heinous crimes.
I know there's no real punishment for some prisoners, especially women They have hair salons.. beauty salon.. own cells..furnished how they want..tv in their cells.. games rooms..

Phones are routinely smuggled in... a well

All paid for by the Taxpayer.. including of course the taxpayer who was the victim of the criminal..that really sticks in my craw
 
I know there's no real punishment for some prisoners, especially women They have hair salons.. beauty salon.. own cells..furnished how they want..tv in their cells.. games rooms..

Phones are routinely smuggled in... a well

All paid for by the Taxpayer.. including of course the taxpayer who was the victim of the criminal..that really sticks in my craw
The same here in Germany. They call it "Humaner Strafvollzug" (humane execution of prison sentences). Well ...
 
Lucy Letby. I find it extremely hard to read about this. Why on earth was there such a strong cover-up, defence and denial of her while she was allowed to continue being able to do what she did? It defies understanding, when doctors warned clearly that something was very wrong with this woman.
Oh those parents and those helpless babies. It really is the most chilling case.
Nurse? Well, unfortunately, certain medical professionals and related personnel, seem to abide by some unspoken loyalty code that demands that they never admit any malpractice accusation against another medical professional no matter how compelling the evidence might be. So they are allowed to continue their practice unimpeded.
 
I meant the focus on actual evidence in which she was found guilty. Is it as sound as it seems? Certain experts are looking more deeply into it. After all, I, we , do not know anything. It does all depend on objective indisputable proof. Leaving aside all emotional feelings on this case.
It is intriguing as to whether the case was solidly proven. She keeps appealing.
 


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