The Other Side of this Existence

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My deepest instincts are to leave it alone. None of us knows what really lies on the other side of this existence.
A couple of times when I lost people I love, I was tempted to visit a medium but an inner feeling warned me not to. I felt it was the healthy way just to grieve and accept they have gone.

I particularly wouldn't have anything to do with Ouija Boards, Tarot cards and that sort of thing. There are so many scary stories about people who were badly affected by such things. I think there are ways of inviting evil into your life and then being unable to get free of it.

So what does anyone else think? Have you ever contacted someone on the other side?
 

At night I sometimes dream of many of those now on the other side.
Can dreams be a message ? hmmm

My dad and mom were in a terrible automobile accident in 1979 that happened very suddenly.
Dad was killed instantly and mom was unconscious, crippled and disfigured. She was in intensive care for a long time.
After the accident, before she went into emergency surgery and with no knowledge of my dad's condition,
Mom said dad came to her, had a conversation and said goodbye. Just as real to her as I'm sitting here.
She already knew before anyone told her much later about dad. I had wondered why she didn't ask and she told me.
 
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Naturally said:
At night I sometimes dream of many of those now on the other side.
Can dreams be a message ? hmmm

My dad and mom were in a terrible automobile accident in 1979 that happened very suddenly.
Dad was killed instantly and mom was unconscious, crippled and disfigured. She was in intensive care for a long time.
After the accident, before she went into emergency surgery and with no knowledge of my dad's condition,
Mom said dad came to her, had a conversation and said goodbye. Just as real to her as I'm sitting here.
She already knew before anyone told her much later about dad. I had wondered why she didn't ask and she told me.
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I cannot imagine how dreadful that time was for you and your family. There is so much we do not know, cannot know.
But people do have these experiences of soul contact and they are real. I know because I have had similar instances, which just couldn't have been dreams because they were so very clear. I normally cannot remember dreams, they are just vague impressions.
 

I'd been at work the day of the accident and was supposed to get off work at four in the afternoon.

I didn't normally EVER stay at work after that time. But this day I did. I had a very uneasy feeling that day.
Things, little things, just kept coming up and kept me there ... near a phone. And I wasn't still at work for a short time either.
About 7P.M. I got a call that there had been a terrible accident the next state over while my mom and dad were traveling.
While no one from the other side contacted me, SOMETHING kept me there where I could be easily reached that day.

The owner of the company my dad worked for was a pilot, had been a pilot since WWII and owned an airplane.
His wife had been in the car with my parents. She was in the back seat. They were returning from an industry show.
I flew with the owner of the company in his plane immediately to the next state over. The flight was over an hour long.

When I got there and saw my mom, I wouldn't have even recognized her had they not told me who she was.
She was in a darkened room and hadn't even been into surgery after over an hour since the accident.
They didn't think she was going to make it, had done xrays and were trying to stabilize her before surgery.

She was unable to talk and was pretty much incoherent. She seemed very agitated and unaware.
I took her hand and told her who I was, that I was there with her, wasn't leaving and everything would be alright.
Immediately she calmed from her agitated state, relaxed and began to slow her breathing although she didn't acknowledge me.

I always wondered if in her state of mind, she might have mistaken me for my dad. We had the same name.
And if it was my reassuring presence she possibly extrapolated into my Dad's presence. But I didn't tell her about dad.

Well, I did give thought to that as "no one" believes those on the other side contact us.
The accident happened in 1979. My mother passed away in 2018.
I never discussed that aspect with my mom. She was at peace with her very real recollections and no way would I interfere with that.

The wife of the company owner only had a broken arm and was very lucky in the protection of a station wagons back seat.
 
Rose65 said:
So what does anyone else think? Have you ever contacted someone on the other side?
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Like @Naturally I frequently see people who have died in my dreams. Nothing profound, they are just there, same as if they were alive. When I was younger and it first happened it was a bit disconcerting, but now I just accept that my dreams incorporate people and memories from my whole life. Never had anything else that I'd call contact.
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These dreams are MORE than just dreams.
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I don't believe that, but I know you do and so do many others. And as @Rose65 said "None of us knows what really lies on the other side of this existence.", so whilst I don't believe it I have to admit I don't really know. Guess that's what an agnostic is.

@Naturally that is an awful story about your parents accident, had to have been a very significant thing in your life. Not a good one.
 
Rose65 said:
My deepest instincts are to leave it alone. None of us knows what really lies on the other side of this existence.
A couple of times when I lost people I love, I was tempted to visit a medium but an inner feeling warned me not to. I felt it was the healthy way just to grieve and accept they have gone.

I particularly wouldn't have anything to do with Ouija Boards, Tarot cards and that sort of thing. There are so many scary stories about people who were badly affected by such things. I think there are ways of inviting evil into your life and then being unable to get free of it.

So what does anyone else think? Have you ever contacted someone on the other side?
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Well, I'll cleared that question right off the bat... They've been contacting me from beyond the veil since I've entered the human plane. Fancy way of saying that I've been clairaudient and to a varying degree, clairvoyant since birth.

As much of my ancestors were into Wicca, I too made the conscious decision to stay away from Ouija boards. There are specific criterias of protection that are required to handle this item. However, Hasbro's never bothered to include those important steps into their box, boards and all.

Tarot's always been a favourite. I've been lucky to receive a magazine collection called "Mind, Body and Spirits" or was it Souls... Nevermind, absolutely excellent for my needs.

I've now 4 Tarot Cards decks, latest one given by daughter at Christmas. I don't give any reading to others since the late 70s. I'd said what I'd seen and it came true. The person in question was at first very angry but afterwards found the situation with relative and I received apologies and friendship was renewed.

I've seen (clairvoyance) my son's soul as I'd not been there when he past. I'll explain what apparated two days after his cremation. SonShine had been 6'2" in RL, his apparition was same height. Hubby hasn't shown himself but when required, gives answers needed.

Peach in colour from head to toe, I knew (due to years of research and studies) that he was free of pain and at peace. Where the eyes used to be, two incredibly bright orbs. Then, in my mind, I heard his words. Simply he said what he'd not been given the chance on his last days on Earth. I felt the love washing over me.

Finally, it's hard to explain to non-believers or sometimes to the ones who do believe. Afterall if it feels unsafe or you're alone, don't fool around with Ouija boards. One fun fact that may confuse but I like to help, so here goes.

The triple number six is mired in controversy and dire situations. However, in Tarot, it imparts new beginnings after ending of toxic cycles. The Devil card is known as Capricorn (zodiac) energy. Whenever, I get a certain message, I know it's from my Father as in life he'd been born 12 January. Definitely, good messages for the situation at hand, i.e. answer to question asked. Not always negative. It's the interpretation when you know how to read them cards. šŸ™‚

When you receive a message as a clairaudient, it's amazing to hear the person describing what happened with their bodies at the funeral home and receive the words... "Thanks for that..."

I'll stop here... I could talk about this too much LOL!
 
generally speaking I don't believe in any of it..tbh... I think people desperately want it to be true because no-one want to believe there's nothing after death...however there has been a few instances in my life that are not explainable.... For example.. I get told things in dreams... I don't always recognise them for what they are.. but when I have a persistent dream.. it comes to pass eventually.

For example.. from the time I was a teen I would get a dream regularly and in my dream ( and I'm not a romantic in any way).. I'd get a heart shaped cloud and in that cloud would be the letters DN..it was like a Valentine and in my dream I knew it meant a future message of love or marriage... and I'd wake up in a sweat because I'd just finished with a guy with those same initials, and I didn't want to be with him. :D
Fast forward about 4 years, and I hadn't had the ram for a couple of years , and I got married and had my daughter.. and I never had the dream again.. then one day I was sitting remembering that dream.. and it suddenly dawned on me that my now Married name was those very initials, but so was my daughters'... :love:

I have a few examples.. but one where something more obvious happened.

I've written about my father here , and that he was a terrible evil person. I had nothing to do with him for the last 2 decades or more of his life.. and was pleased to keep well away from him...as were all my siblings

I used to get sleeping paralysis a lot.. and it would make my heart race till I thought I was having a heart attack. One night.. I got this, and suddenly I could see my fathers' face. Clear as day altho' the room was dark. *ugh*.. it really shook me...so a few days later remembering this horrible dream.. I contacted some people, and discovered my father had just passed... :oops:
 
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Alligatorob said:
Like @Naturally I frequently see people who have died in my dreams. Nothing profound, they are just there, same as if they were alive. When I was younger and it first happened it was a bit disconcerting, but now I just accept that my dreams incorporate people and memories from my whole life. Never had anything else that I'd call contact.

I don't believe that, but I know you do and so do many others. And as @Rose65 said "None of us knows what really lies on the other side of this existence.", so whilst I don't believe it I have to admit I don't really know. Guess that's what an agnostic is.
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Well I donā€™t expect you to know about MY experiences just like you probably donā€™t expect me to know about yours. Lol
We have different minds. It would be very strange and somewhat disturbing if you were to know and understand MY dreams and experiences.
 
jujube said:
I've often wished that one of my loved ones who have passed on would let me know how they are, that they are looking out for me, etc. but I haven't had that experience.

My only experience with a "departed soul" (if that indeed was what it was) was fairly hostile.
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Jujube... I'd always wanted that, as probably most of us did, and especially with my mum who died so young and when I was a teen . I've written about this before on this forum.. but it had only been a few short years since my mum died.. and I was yearning for her. I was reading a book written by one of our most famous Mediums.. and in that book she said.. if you really want to contact a loved one.. you only have to do.. such and such...

So alone in the house, all quiet... I sat on the floor doing exactly what she described.. and asked my mum if she could hear me to show me she was here with me in the house. Within seconds the Vacuum cleaner which was in the corner.. fell over. !! this was a cylinder Vac.. not an upright.. so there was not normally a way for that to fall over ... . I wasn't expecting it to work, and I nearly jumped out of my skin because in reality I didn't know if I'd conjured up my mother or some malevolent spirit.. so I immediately shouted STOP..... and it did, nothing else happened.... so many years on, I could put this down to co-incidence with the Vac... and immaturity for me... but I never tried it again.

However here I am in my 60's.. and almost every time I'm in trouble of some type or trouble is heading my way.. I get a warning or a support from my mother ?.. or my grandmother ?.. in the way of tiny white feathers scattered over my lawn.. , and when I see them especially if I'm going through problems.. I always say, Hi Mum.. and hi granny... and know they've got my back.

...however I do know for sure I saw my fathers' face clear as could be on that fateful night... a face I never wanted to see..
 
IMO, it seems pretty simple to me. Energy transfer from one life form to another has been going on for over 3 billion years on earth. No matter what you do, you ultimately become nature again at some point. Everything you see in nature has died millions of times over, and yet it's still there. Whatever I ate yesterday was alive at some point, and now it's part of me (The energy molecules are absorbed through the walls of the small colon). When we die, the energy molecules in our body are recycled by nature. I love nature, and I don't view death as an end. It's just a new beginning of new life for other things.
As for consciousness or a soul existing apart from the body, it seems doubtful, but perhaps it could be. After many years, I think most neurologists would conclude that the degree of consciousness is relative to the degree of functioning brain cells. Case studies of severely brain damaged people seem to indicate that if you were to remove parts of a person's brain piece by piece, then consciousness eventually goes away. But, then again, there are always interpretations of any science that could serve any argument.
There are light waves we don't see, smells we don't smell, and sound waves we don't hear, so are there things that are beyond our detection. Sure, dark matter, dark energy, and who knows what else. So I dunno, anything's possible I guess.
 
If you are afraid to engage in spiritual or the dark arts to contact past love ones, no harm will be done by avoiding it, but your fear seems unwarranted to me. The question to first ask would be, "If there is a dimension or existence beyond our own, is there any verified way of making contact with it?" And then you might ask, "Is there a reason to worry about it?" And you've already decided that it seems, so I would leave it alone.
 
Long before I ever heard or knew of the possibility or even the idea of souls.. ghosts, paranormal..or anything relating to death.. I was 7 years old and rushed into hospital for an emergency appendectomy .

I still remember being up in the corner of the room watching down below as the surgeons all dressed in green gowns worked on my body...

I never gave it a thought that I shouldn't be seeing it.. and I was up there for what was probably just a few seconds.. and then I woke in a darkened ward, puking for Britain as a nurse ran to get a bed pan..

I was so at ease with this vision, that I didn't even mention it to my mother until years after...
 
hollydolly said:
generally speaking I don't believe in any of it..tbh... I think people desperately want it to be true because no-one want to believe there's nothing after death...however there has been a few instances in my life that are not explainable.... For example.. I get told things in dreams... I don't always recognise them for what they are.. but when I have a persistent dream.. it comes to pass eventually.

For example.. from the time I was a teen I would get a dream regularly and in my dream ( and I'm not a romantic in any way).. I'd get a heart shaped cloud and in that cloud would be the letters DN..it was like a Valentine and in my dream I knew it meant a future message of love or marriage... and I'd wake up in a sweat because I'd just finished with a guy with those same initials, and I didn't want to be with him. :D
Fast forward about 4 years, and I hadn't had the ram for a couple of years , and I got married and had my daughter.. and I never had the dream again.. then one day I was sitting remembering that dream.. and it suddenly dawned on me that my now Married name was those very initials, but so was my daughters'... :love:

I have a few examples.. but one where something more obvious happened.

I've written about my father here , and that he was a terrible evil person. I had nothing to do with him for the last 2 decades or more of his life.. and was pleased to keep well away from him...as were all my siblings

I used to get sleeping paralysis a lot.. and it would make my heart race till I thought I was having a heart attack. One night.. I got this, and suddenly I could see my fathers' face. Clear as day altho' the room was dark. *ugh*.. it really shook me...so a few days later remembering this horrible dream.. I contacted some people, and discovered my father had just passed... :oops:
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They're known as "Prophetic Dreams". They're marvellous to have sometimes and for others not so great.

Daughter and Son, had the same dream. The scene from Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Part 2 is very relatable to this story. Instead of being a train station, it was in a very clean airport, people around them had no faces. It was quite long and wondering what the outcome would be.

When they did wake up they came to let me know. Four months later, her brother, my son had died. He'd said goodbye to his sister in the dream and got on a plane...

Mine was after a palm reading from a wonderful Gypsy lady at the fair. In my dream, I was in a forest, out in the distance, by the shores of a brook, stood with his back to me, a guy dressed in a kilt, playing the bagpipes. It recurred every night until 17 March 1984. The day I met him.

After the tune was played he simply vanished. I'd run to where he'd been standing and in the sand were the initials MB 85. It all came true ...
 
Gaer said:
MANY TIMES! MANY, MANY TIMES!!!!!

"None of us knows what really lies on the other side of this existence"
I DO!!!!! I KNOW!!!!!

I can yell it to the skies, but no one hears me.
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I do not understand your agitation Gaer.

Surely you must know that consciousness is different for everyone.
Although all humans are consciousā€¦ the level of consciousness
each of us experience differs.

When we achieve higher levels of consciousness, it is no longer a requirement for others to think or see or hear as we do.
 
Jamala said:
I do not understand your agitation Gaer.

Surely you must know that consciousness is different for everyone.
Although all humans are consciousā€¦ the level of consciousness
each of us experience differs.

When we achieve higher levels of consciousness, it is no longer a requirement for others to think or see or hear as we do.
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Oh haha! I'm not agitated dear! Just making a point!
 
Gaer said:
MANY TIMES! MANY, MANY TIMES!!!!!

"None of us knows what really lies on the other side of this existence"
I DO!!!!! I KNOW!!!!!

I can yell it to the skies, but no one hears me.
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@Gaer dear soul - I notice you call yourself "Angel whisperer" and i do believe that is for a good and valid reason..........you can whisper it to the skies and they will hear you and I would love to hear and see an Angel whisperer column on here too.

and I do believe many would listen . Our Holy books whether the Koran ; or Greek bible/NIV bible/ or catholic bible /scriptures of the Buddha/ Indian holy scriptures etc may be efficacious but I think there are other paths to enlightement also?
 
Rose65 said:
My deepest instincts are to leave it alone. None of us knows what really lies on the other side of this existence.
A couple of times when I lost people I love, I was tempted to visit a medium but an inner feeling warned me not to. I felt it was the healthy way just to grieve and accept they have gone.

I particularly wouldn't have anything to do with Ouija Boards, Tarot cards and that sort of thing. There are so many scary stories about people who were badly affected by such things. I think there are ways of inviting evil into your life and then being unable to get free of it.

So what does anyone else think? Have you ever contacted someone on the other side?
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Firstly, I don't want this to come across as a know-it-all dismissive put down. You do you. You might be right.

Me? There is no soul. No afterlife. No heaven. No hell. Just THIS. Right here, and right now. I'd like it to be different, and it's comforting to imagine a wonderful place we all go to. But deep down, I know there isn't. What matters is this minute, and then this minute, and then the next minute. This is it. Right here, right now. Your friends who have passed are there with you, woven into your past, and are part of you. Use that as you will. But death? No darkness, no ANYTHING.
 

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