The prospect of immortalizing your essence (Self).

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The idea that our thoughts will live on after our bodies crumble into dust is not a new one, but now your personality can be merged together with an AI generated image of you, and very soon could even be incorporated into a you-bot that looks just like your adorable little mug. It's sort of a not-so-dead reality for those who want to always be there in some form for their loved ones, even generations from now.

Our essence and personality, at least in some capacity, can remain a part of the lives of those we leave behind. It's a use of AI that will potentially allow anyone to converse and interact with the dead as if they were in the same room (or at least, as if they were on a video call with them). It differs from the concept of attempting to download your consciousness into a computer. It's intense information gathering that will essentially simulate you, and even have your voice.

It's a way of creating a posthumous impression of our knowledge, opinions and even parts of our personality in digital form. One tool that could be used is for it to scan the internet for all your responses to everything (Senior Forum, FB, blogs, diaries, and other social media) to learn about how you think, and even recall memories, in an attempt to make reliable predictions about what you might have said or thought, if you were still alive.

Even better, you could have many conversations with it (As you might with ChatGPT or Open AI) prior to taking the big exit. It would apply artificial intelligence to all the data we produce each day, and thereby transfer our thoughts to a virtual entity that not only survives our physical demise but continues to learn as new information is plugged into it. It would still have your personality but become an evolving being (If you choose that option).

There are already Grief-bots and Replika's in the works that are bridging the gap to minimize the loss of loved ones. It's just a matter of choice for the living to make as to whether they may want some semblance of themselves to live on. It sounds intriguing, but perhaps I would have behaved a little better if I knew my personality might be around forever? Perhaps I could edit out the dumb parts.
 

The concept has been featured in a few Sci-Fi / Fantasy works over the years, Superman viewing and talking with his dead parents through a sophisticated hologram, is the first I recall seeing.

I think such an experience of seeing & hearing an animated replication of a loved one would be emotionally disturbing. As for creating a you-bot for myself, I don't think anyone would be interested.
 

This thread made me think of the holographic grave markers at the end of Serenity (2005):


Sorry, embedding not allowed. Follow the link in the video box.
 
Personally, I would be open to the idea, but with caveats.
For generations after loved ones have passed, one goes through a grieving process, which I think is necessary to accept that they are no longer with us. However, also for generations we often go to gravesites and have one-way conversations with that loved one, we put up pictures in our home of them, and even read letters or re-visit things they made for us. Even though we have accepted their death, we still want some part of them with us. Some even find comfort in watching old home movies of their departed parents.

I have a recording of my dad telling me his life story that I recorded on VHS tape about 35 years ago, and I have since converted it to a digital recording. It doesn't seem strange or weird to watch the recording, and I think it's a nice thing to have. I don't imagine him still alive, but the memory of him can even be preserved for generations.

The intention, I would think, is to create a digital interactive memory of them where you can interact with that person, not in order to pretend they’re alive, but to hear their voice, see their face, and enjoy their personality (Or a close resemblance), and remember them as they were, and even be inspired by them again.

Chatbots and voice assistants, like Siri and Alexa, have gone from high-tech novelties to a part of daily life for millions of people over the past decade. Many have become very comfortable with the idea of talking to their devices about everything from the weather forecast to the meaning of life. Who knows, we may even become comfortable with the voice, image, and personality of our dearly departed.
 
I doubt many in our generation would warm to the idea; certainly I wouldn't. Perhaps it may be very different for those born with a cell phone in their hands. They may be much more comfortable with the idea of being preserved by technology?
 
The idea that our thoughts will live on after our bodies crumble into dust is not a new one, but now your personality can be merged together with an AI generated image of you, and very soon could even be incorporated into a you-bot that looks just like your adorable little mug. It's sort of a not-so-dead reality for those who want to always be there in some form for their loved ones, even generations from now.

Our essence and personality, at least in some capacity, can remain a part of the lives of those we leave behind. It's a use of AI that will potentially allow anyone to converse and interact with the dead as if they were in the same room (or at least, as if they were on a video call with them). It differs from the concept of attempting to download your consciousness into a computer. It's intense information gathering that will essentially simulate you, and even have your voice.

It's a way of creating a posthumous impression of our knowledge, opinions and even parts of our personality in digital form. One tool that could be used is for it to scan the internet for all your responses to everything (Senior Forum, FB, blogs, diaries, and other social media) to learn about how you think, and even recall memories, in an attempt to make reliable predictions about what you might have said or thought, if you were still alive.

Even better, you could have many conversations with it (As you might with ChatGPT or Open AI) prior to taking the big exit. It would apply artificial intelligence to all the data we produce each day, and thereby transfer our thoughts to a virtual entity that not only survives our physical demise but continues to learn as new information is plugged into it. It would still have your personality but become an evolving being (If you choose that option).

There are already Grief-bots and Replika's in the works that are bridging the gap to minimize the loss of loved ones. It's just a matter of choice for the living to make as to whether they may want some semblance of themselves to live on. It sounds intriguing, but perhaps I would have behaved a little better if I knew my personality might be around forever? Perhaps I could edit out the dumb parts.

The cycle of life is important to us as human beings. The old gives way to the young, progress is made as society and people evolve.

The idea described potentially breaks that, and I don't think it's for the better. I think we should be humble. I won't be immortalized because there is no reason for me to be immortalized. Nothing about me with affect the greater world. When my journey is done, my journey is done, and the ground I filled is ready for another soul.
 
The cycle of life is important to us as human beings. The old gives way to the young, progress is made as society and people evolve.

The idea described potentially breaks that, and I don't think it's for the better. I think we should be humble. I won't be immortalized because there is no reason for me to be immortalized. Nothing about me with affect the greater world. When my journey is done, my journey is done, and the ground I filled is ready for another soul.
From reading the articles, I came away with the understanding that it wasn't meant to be about breaking the life and death cycle, or an attempt to avoid the reaper, but it was about memorializing your essence for loved ones and future generations. Again, I think the grieving process and realization that their loved one is passed is necessary.

However, if anyone in the family feels the need for a little comfort from great grandma or perhaps a little generational wisdom, it's always there in the wings. I didn't get the idea that the grandpa clone was intended to sit at the dining room table with the rest of the family, but if that tickles their fancy, then to each his own. Perhaps each generation will be more accepting of the concept.
 
Everything changes. Some think the changes are going to make "whatever it is" worse, some...better. Remembering our loved ones is in transformation because of advanced tech, and some people will welcome that. Some might even choose "outrageous" ways to remember. It is going to evolve; we can be sure of that. A lot will depend on how much it costs. The wealthier you are, the higher tech it will be.
 
From reading the articles, I came away with the understanding that it wasn't meant to be about breaking the life and death cycle, or an attempt to avoid the reaper, but it was about memorializing your essence for loved ones and future generations. Again, I think the grieving process and realization that their loved one is passed is necessary.

However, if anyone in the family feels the need for a little comfort from great grandma or perhaps a little generational wisdom, it's always there in the wings. I didn't get the idea that the grandpa clone was intended to sit at the dining room table with the rest of the family, but if that tickles their fancy, then to each his own. Perhaps each generation will be more accepting of the concept.

But for me, that's part of the same thing. It's a tad arrogant to think any words of wisdom I might have will have value to someone once I'd gone. Dying, and time, roll on from recent memory to being forgotten, and that's how we live. Memorializing at this level is a little ghoulish, imo. The future belongs to the young, let them have a straight hit at it.

I realize this is just me. I'm not someone to even visit graveyards, etc. I'm not sentimental about old photographs. etc.
 
After a few hundred (or thousand) years, there could be billions of other AI "people" besides our own virtual entity ("self")--we would be so many generations removed from our children and grandchildren that nobody will be interested in us!
 
Used to look forward to the physical Letter in the mail. Now its 9/10ths Junk.
The original Internet was a lil slow but few Add's, now its 99% Adds. News is Junk News.

Used to be you could ride the Rail or Bus West, you and your baggage would arrive together.
Now you Fly by Jet get there in a couple of hours and 9/10ths of the time your luggage went to Alaska.

What about all those frozen for all of Eternity to once again be revived. Are they 100% dead?

Were pretty good now, maybe 85%. Can't see our essence carrying on as nothing but 99% Junk Essence.
It's easy to imagine our Essence begun with an add, every 30 seconds interrupted by an add & ending with a list of stuff.

My cousin and I once went to a Fair when I was maybe 8 years old. An old guy sit there in a chair asking for Donations.
They 100% didn't go to the Orphanage. They had all closed. Should I have wasted my allowance and created a Go Fund Me?
Should I create a 42-page Living Trust when I am broke?
 

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