The Virus Is Not Going Away! I knew it, they knew it but did you know it?

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If you don't know it, it is time to realize that covid-19 and its variants are, in all probability, not going to go away. Common sense said it wouldn't go away My doctor told me this yesterday, the government knew it all along (e.g., What other flu/cold virus went away?) and now the vaccine makers admit it and are looking at what they think will be a "durable demand" for their products.

WASHINGTON (SBG) — The United States is in the midst of a massive vaccination drive, administering more than 250 million shots in less than five months, but vaccine manufacturers are warning this could be just the beginning of a long battle against COVID-19 and its variants that requires a similar effort to distribute booster shots every year.​
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“We believe booster shots will be needed, as we believe the virus is not going away,” Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel said on a first-quarter earnings call with investors Thursday.​
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Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla made a similar prediction last month that a booster shot would “likely” be necessary within 12 months. Other experts say a supplemental shot might not be required so soon, but much is still unknown about the protection conferred by vaccines developed in record time last year.​
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“Based on what we’ve seen, we believe that a durable demand for our COVID-19 vaccine, similar to that of the flu vaccines, is a likely outcome,” Bourla said on an earnings call Tuesday.​
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I saw on the abc news site where they were showing a live feed and saying that they're claiming that California will reach herd immunity by June so they're going to open back up. I don't see how they can claim that let alone know the exact month.

I figured it would be something that would never go away once it was here because of the severity of it. Common sense tells you that.

The question is will people ever smarten up about it? Will they be willing to accept life in a new form of normal?
 

MarciKS said:
I saw on the abc news site where they were showing a live feed and saying that they're claiming that California will reach herd immunity by June so they're going to open back up. I don't see how they can claim that let alone know the exact month.

I figured it would be something that would never go away once it was here because of the severity of it. Common sense tells you that.

The question is will people ever smarten up about it? Will they be willing to accept life in a new form of normal?
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I don't really see all this as "a new form of normal." Influenza outbreaks are nothing new and statistically, this one isn't all that different. What's new is all the hoopla, pressure (e.g., political, social, CYA, financial, etc.) and causal indicators.
 
JonDouglas said:
If you don't know it, it is time to realize that covid-19 and its variants are, in all probability, not going to go away. Common sense said it wouldn't go away My doctor told me this yesterday, the government knew it all along (e.g., What other flu/cold virus went away?) and now the vaccine makers admit it and are looking at what they think will be a "durable demand."

WASHINGTON (SBG) — The United States is in the midst of a massive vaccination drive, administering more than 250 million shots in less than five months, but vaccine manufacturers are warning this could be just the beginning of a long battle against COVID-19 and its variants that requires a similar effort to distribute booster shots every year.​
​
“We believe booster shots will be needed, as we believe the virus is not going away,” Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel said on a first-quarter earnings call with investors Thursday.​
​
Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla made a similar prediction last month that a booster shot would “likely” be necessary within 12 months. Other experts say a supplemental shot might not be required so soon, but much is still unknown about the protection conferred by vaccines developed in record time last year.​
​
“Based on what we’ve seen, we believe that a durable demand for our COVID-19 vaccine, similar to that of the flu vaccines, is a likely outcome,” Bourla said on an earnings call Tuesday.​
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(Excerpt) Read more at abc6onyourside.com ...​
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I didn't know at the very outset but became suspicious early on and said so emphasizing the importance of building a healthy immune system. Big pharma will just use this to make more money while major corporations will use the opportunity to keep everyone they can frighten locked inside dependent upon their services whose prices will skyrocket.

Follow the money. Always. Who stands to gain? Make your decisions accordingly.
 
chic said:
I didn't know at the very outset but became suspicious early on and said so emphasizing the importance of building a healthy immune system. Big pharma will just use this to make more money while major corporations will use the opportunity to keep everyone they can frighten locked inside dependant upon their services whose prices will skyrocket.

Follow the money. Always. Who stands to gain? Make your decisions accordingly.
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It is not all that difficult to figure out who benefits (financially and politically) big time from all the lockdowns, restrictions, masking and vaccinations. At question are their motives, which we can be certain are not totally altruistic.
 
I knew it from day one.

Just like a common cold bug or flu virus, I viewed Covid-19 no differently.

Common sense told me that once here, it was here to stay.

Amazing how many folks out there thought or think differently and bought into a cure, hook, line and sinker.
 
JonDouglas said:
I don't really see all this as "a new form of normal." Influenza outbreaks are nothing new and statistically, this one isn't all that different. What's new is all the hoopla, pressure (e.g., political, social, CYA, financial, etc.) and causal indicators.
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What I mean is it will be a new normal if we have to continue with the mask wearing permanently. Life may just not ever be the same after this. But I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. Have a good day.
 
The Spike Protein Plays A Key Role In The Covid Illness: From the Salk Institute:

A JOLLA—Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.​
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The paper, published on April 30, 2021, in Circulation Research, also shows conclusively that COVID-19 is a vascular disease, demonstrating exactly how the SARS-CoV-2 virus damages and attacks the vascular system on a cellular level. The findings help explain COVID-19’s wide variety of seemingly unconnected complications, and could open the door for new research into more effective therapies.​
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In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls.​
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“If you remove the replicating capabilities of the virus, it still has a major damaging effect on the vascular cells, simply by virtue of its ability to bind to this ACE2 receptor, the S protein receptor, now famous thanks to COVID,” Manor explains. “Further studies with mutant spike proteins will also provide new insight towards the infectivity and severity of mutant SARS CoV-2 viruses.”​
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Read whole article at SALK.
 
JonDouglas said:
Well, if people decide to act like sheep and buy into this as an ongoing thing, then it's them, not the virus, that's the problem.
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You know...it's people like you that really tick me off. Just because people are practicing a safety measure for their own health does not make them sheep and I really wish you people would get off that crap. If I wanted to get technical I could just accuse all of the non sheep people of being selfish little jack@$$es but I don't. For me the politics don't even factor into this. I'm looking at it from a health point of view. Because it's a health issue.
 
MarciKS said:
You know...it's people like you that really tick me off. Just because people are practicing a safety measure for their own health does not make them sheep and I really wish you people would get off that crap. If I wanted to get technical I could just accuse all of the non sheep people of being selfish little jack@$$es but I don't. For me the politics don't even factor into this. I'm looking at it from a health point of view. Because it's a health issue.
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My goodness, did you get this upset about people not masking and distancing during H1N1? I ask because people around here have pretty much left all that behind (except for those stores demanding masks) and there's been no abnormal uptick. Perhaps you've forgotten that masking states did slightly worse than non-masking states.
 
JonDouglas said:
My goodness, did you get this upset about people not masking and distancing during H1N1?
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I'm not upset about the people not masking. I don't agree with it but I'm not upset. I'm upset at people like you who point your fat little finger at others and call them sheep because you're not smart enough to see past your politics.
 
MarciKS said:
I'm not upset about the people not masking. I don't agree with it but I'm not upset. I'm upset at people like you who point your fat little finger at others and call them sheep because you're not smart enough to see past your politics.
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People who follow the herd are often referred to as sheep, with no disrespect to either the sheep or people who have a herd-like mentality for good or bad. It was unfortunate you took it personally to the point of having to call me out specifically. But, since you did, I called you out. Are we done know?
 
Becky1951 said:
I pretty much agree with most of your comments/posts, however saying "act like sheep"??? Was that comment needed? No IMO it wasn't. No one wants to be compared to as "Sheep", no matter how cute and fuzzy they look.
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I am not known for being delicate, prissy or politically sensitive., If you follow the herd, you act like sheep. It's reality. If you don't like what I say, you have an ignore option.
 
JonDouglas said:
Well, if people decide to act like sheep and buy into this as an ongoing thing, then it's them, not the virus, that's the problem.
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I agree. This ends when we say it does. I think that day will come. Eventually people will stop being afraid and become defiant. And if it is largely political that can be changed too. I'm surprised world leaders are still forcing this dialog and agenda on people when people have plainly become tired of it. It will backfire on them and they don't seem to see this coming.
 

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