There will be 6 Million Flu Cases

Mike

Mike

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Approximately this year just like every year here
in Britain, yet I haven't heard or read anything
about it!

Yesterday there were 51 Corona Virus cases and
1 person died, that was at the top of the news
on TV, headlines in all the papers, in fact the TV
had reporters in several different countries around
the World, answering inane questions from the man/
woman in the warm studio.

I keep thinking that this virus is very, very bad to have
such a reaction and nobody wants to tell the truth just
in case there is trouble from the population, maybe this
was the reason that our Government had a meeting on
Monday that should have been held weeks ago.

They didn't know what to say or how to say it and still
they didn't say very much.

Mike
 

While fears about the spread of a virus that could become a pandemic are legitimate, we should not ignore that regular flu kills thousands each year.
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While everyone is in a panic about the coronavirus (officially renamed COVID-19 by the World Health Organization), there's an even deadlier virus many people are forgetting about: the flu.
Flu season is hitting its stride right now in the US. So far, the CDC has estimated (based on weekly influenza surveillance data) that at least 12,000 people have died from influenza between Oct. 1, 2019 through Feb. 1, 2020, and the number of deaths may be as high as 30,000.

The CDC also estimates that up to 31 million Americans have caught the flu this season, with 210,000 to 370,000 flu sufferers hospitalized because of the virus. (https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year).
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I had the flu 7 yrs ago, and don't want it again.

I also had viral encephalitis a couple of decades back. I survived by taking tylenol3 (with codeine) because of severe pain from headache.
I could feel it going to different parts of the brain and throbbing. Could not tolerate lights or noise, could not eat or drink for a week (I used suppositories for fluids)

So, if I could choose, I would rather have the coronavirus any day.

I pray that it will die down as warmer weather comes and hopefully, kills off the viruses.
 
I had the flu a couple of times, I worked in a School...The Principal finally had no kids to touch our phones....we were getting sick...
I had pneumonia last August...I never had it in my whole live...I was quarantined so my family couldn't even see me for 2 weeks....
I thought I would die....Thank God I have my husband taken care of me....He just caught a little cold....
 
The number of infected is not nearly as important as the survival rate. Those who have it and survive will probably have immunity.

It is cause for concern until the method of transmission is nailed down so healthy people will know how to avoid it. So far there is no definitive answer as to transmission.
 
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Marlene said:
While everyone is in a panic about the coronavirus (officially renamed COVID-19 by the World Health Organization), there's an even deadlier virus many people are forgetting about: the flu.
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The flu is not deadlier than coronavirus. CV is 20 times more deadly (2.4% to 0.1% for the flu) not even close. More people die from the flu because more people have gotten it,so far. The CV outbreak is in the early stages in the US. If, as some experts have predicted, 60% of the population contracts it and the current fatality rates hold true, over 2 MILLION people over the age of 70 will die from CV in the US alone. It has a 14.8% fatality rate in those over 80.
 
garyt1957 said:
The flu is not deadlier than coronavirus. CV is 20 times more deadly (2.4% to 0.1% for the flu) not even close. More people die from the flu because more people have gotten it,so far. The CV outbreak is in the early stages in the US. If, as some experts have predicted, 60% of the population contracts it and the current fatality rates hold true, over 2 MILLION people over the age of 70 will die from CV in the US alone. It has a 14.8% fatality rate in those over 80.
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I wasn't implying that the flu is more deadly, only that we need to be aware that the plain old flu also kills lots of people. So the need to be cautious and mindful about our health is ever present. Flu and pneumonia can be deadly also, and dead is dead regardless of which virus you die from.
 
StarSong said:
Do you honestly believe China would shut down its factories, build hospitals, and quarantine 800 million people if this were nothing more than western media hype?
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Exactly. Wreak an emerging economic power house in a culture that values face saving ..not happening unless things are horrifically bad.

garyt1957 said:
The flu is not deadlier than coronavirus. CV is 20 times more deadly (2.4% to 0.1% for the flu) not even close. More people die from the flu because more people have gotten it,so far. The CV outbreak is in the early stages in the US. If, as some experts have predicted, 60% of the population contracts it and the current fatality rates hold true, over 2 MILLION people over the age of 70 will die from CV in the US alone. It has a 14.8% fatality rate in those over 80.
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Mortality rate up to 3.4% now per the WHO. Running about 3.8% in Italy. And that's just from Covid-19. Bad time to have a heart attack about right now in Lombardy when nearly 11% of Covid-19 patients are in severe/critical condition.
 
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And since many, if not most, of us on this board are in the age range most likely to die of it, I think it is important to take it seriously.

I am not panicking, but I am being more careful to wash my hands frequently and trying really hard not to touch my face when out among others, etc., and I certainly will not be attending any "events" where there are a lot of people packed in closely.

Once you start paying attention to not touching your face, you become aware of how often you do it, just casually. And of course the minute you are paying attention to not doing it your nose suddenly itches.
 
Butterfly said:
And since many, if not most, of us on this board are in the age range most likely to die of it, I think it is important to take it seriously.

I am not panicking, but I am being more careful to wash my hands frequently and trying really hard not to touch my face when out among others, etc., and I certainly will not be attending any "events" where there are a lot of people packed in closely.

Once you start paying attention to not touching your face, you become aware of how often you do it, just casually. And of course the minute you are paying attention to not doing it your nose suddenly itches.
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All good points.
 
CarolfromTX said:
I believe that the virus got away from them before they reacted. So far in this country there have been about 20 cases.
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Did you miss the part where the CDC set ridiculously narrow testing parameters for weeks and when they tried to expand them by shipping out tests to high risk cities, it was found they'd sent out faulty tests?

Testing fail = few 'documented' cases = false sense of security
 
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exwisehe said:
I had the flu 7 yrs ago, and don't want it again.

I also had viral encephalitis a couple of decades back. I survived by taking tylenol3 (with codeine) because of severe pain from headache.
I could feel it going to different parts of the brain and throbbing. Could not tolerate lights or noise, could not eat or drink for a week (I used suppositories for fluids)

So, if I could choose, I would rather have the coronavirus any day.

I pray that it will die down as warmer weather comes and hopefully, kills off the viruses.
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Right after we arrived in Vietnam, like maybe 4 or 5 days after our arrival, a fellow Marine became very ill and was airlifted out to the hospital ship. About a week later, we got word that he had encephalitis and was being shipped home as soon as he could travel. We all had to get a shot, but I forget the name of it.
 
I was watching one of the morning TV shows and some doctor was talking about the Coronavirus and he made the comment that the government was doing a bed count of all the U.S. hospitals and how many beds each hospital had in their ICU unit. I didn’t quite understand what his point was.
 
oldman said:
I was watching one of the morning TV shows and some doctor was talking about the Coronavirus and he made the comment that the government was doing a bed count of all the U.S. hospitals and how many beds each hospital had in their ICU unit. I didn’t quite understand what his point was.
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Do you remember which one? I'd like to try to find that.

My guess is to know how many temporary beds to plan for. There are around 925,000 hospital beds in the US and Covid-19 is running around a little over 10% severe/critical rate. Say only 1/10 of the US tests positive and 10% of those require hospitalization ...that's over 3 million patients to put in 925,000 existing beds. The math doesn't work just for Covid-19. And other medical issues aren't going to cease to occur just because the hospitals are overrun with Covid-19. Most hospitals stay well over 75% full in normal times and these aren't normal times.
 
AnnieA said:
Do you remember which one? I'd like to try to find that.

My guess is to know how many temporary beds to plan for. There are around 925,000 hospital beds in the US and Covid-19 is running around a little over 10% severe/critical rate. Say only 1/10 of the US tests positive and 10% of those require hospitalization ...that's over 3 million patients to put in 925,000 existing beds. The math doesn't work just for Covid-19. And other medical issues aren't going to cease to occur just because the hospitals are overrun with Covid-19. Most hospitals stay well over 75% full in normal times and these aren't normal times.
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I believe it was the show on NBC.
 
peppermint said:
I had the flu a couple of times, I worked in a School...The Principal finally had no kids to touch our phones....we were getting sick...
I had pneumonia last August...I never had it in my whole live...I was quarantined so my family couldn't even see me for 2 weeks....
I thought I would die....Thank God I have my husband taken care of me....He just caught a little cold....
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I had pnemonia when I was 17. I remember my siblings returning from school it was winter time. All there coats went on top of me. I was in bed under the one blanket.
My room was the first in the house. Where everyone threw there coats off without messing up the other main rooms.
There was at least six coats on me. I was freezing and had not ate or drank anything all day. I did not come up for air as I heard all talking over each other. I felt too sick to even care to respond to anyone.
That is when my mother decided to take me to the hospital, even though I do not know how I got there. One thing was certain, I only wanted to sleep. I was used to walking in rain, sleet, snow blizzard conditions from and to work. How I became sick my whole 98 pounds soak and wet.
In the hospital they said I could drink as much juice as I wanted. I did not want to. Unless it was apricot juice. Had to drink a quart a day.
Plus 22 needles in my bum.
I would had died for sure they kept me for two weeks. With the picture of my fiance in Vietnam. I only had a vinyl thin layered cost I bought myself to go to work and back.
This same man left me in the ditch at the blizzard of '78' and how I lost my daughters.
Oh hum, he was taken over by Italian sausage by the name of LORRAINE. They live in Texas.
 
Marlene said:
While fears about the spread of a virus that could become a pandemic are legitimate, we should not ignore that regular flu kills thousands each year.
_____
While everyone is in a panic about the coronavirus (officially renamed COVID-19 by the World Health Organization), there's an even deadlier virus many people are forgetting about: the flu.
Flu season is hitting its stride right now in the US. So far, the CDC has estimated (based on weekly influenza surveillance data) that at least 12,000 people have died from influenza between Oct. 1, 2019 through Feb. 1, 2020, and the number of deaths may be as high as 30,000.

The CDC also estimates that up to 31 million Americans have caught the flu this season, with 210,000 to 370,000 flu sufferers hospitalized because of the virus. (https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year).
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I think that the Flu coverage has had it's days. Every years people are prompted to get their flu shots via news reports and ads. My insurance company sends a flyer about where to get free flu shots, I imagine others do as well. So I don't think the flu is being ignored, I think the public is being made aware of the seriousness of this new threat and rightly so. That being said, I have seen reports on the seriousness of the flu and those dire statistics.
 

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