This bad behavior on planes has to stop.....

This is what happens when people have decided they can make or self appoint to enforce rules as THEY see them on others.

If this man was an issue i am sure the flight crew could have handled it.
Find it ironic she was not wearing her mask correctly.
Where do these folks like this out of control person think SPITTING at someone is an acceptable behavior. That put aerosols in air for all on flight to hope she does not have anything.
I know our mental health system could NEVER keep up with those who simply cannot function anymore cause they are on edge of hysteria over things like if someone else is wearing a mask etc.

No one seems to care that refusal to follow a flight crews direction or causing this sort of disturbance is a crime. Too many simply have no belief there are consequences.
I wonder after she has to bail out or make a possible trip to another area maybe repeatedly ... maybe have to take time off for court etc will be enough of an upheaval to keep her from flipping out again....my guess is she will have like minded folks crowd fund to pay off any fines etc and convince her she was the injured party.
 

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We’ve flown twice since November. Once to visit an ailing friend in Syracuse NY and one to spend thanksgiving with my son and family in CA. Different airlines each time, (American and Delta) and different airports/stopovers/destinations.

Airlines don’t serve food any more. If you’re lucky you’ll get nuts or chips or a cookie, and a water or other drink..no alcohol. Ron and I buy food at the airport once we’re past security, and take it on the plane. But even if we didn’t, we’d still be having a coffee or water or something (to help our ears pop) so we’d have to (and did) remove our masks for brief periods.

The attendants on each airline were very attentive to the mask mandate and I saw/heard them several times reminding passengers to put on their masks. They even reminded Ron who’d pulled his down to drink his coffee and forgotten to pull it back up when he went back to watching his movie!! In one case a young lady who was heading down the aisle to the bathroom was turned back by the attendant to go get her mask.

These flights don’t needs any Karens to get up in other folks’ business. The attendants are doing just fine!!
 
There are entirely too many flakes walking around just looking for something or somebody to go off on.
Maybe she wanted to be on the 6 o'clock news.
Is it not enough that we have to deal with this pandemic every day we also have these crazies on every corner.
This is happening too often, if they are not insisting you wear a mask, they're trying to rip your mask off and calling you sheep.
 
Only one time did I ask someone to mask. Most always I’ll just step away or hang back or move to another area.

That one time we were traveling in an elevator together and I didn’t think I was gonna be able to hold my breath for 10 floors. I asked “ would you mind wearing your mask? I don’t believe I’m going to be able to hold my breath till you get off.” The young man laughed and said Sure! End of story.

If I’d been confrontational or accusatory, I doubt the outcome would have been the same.
 
Everyone says the pandemic has brought out the worst in people. I think some were always despicable and it has given them an excuse to show it (especially the mask controversy).

I do think it's great that an 80 year-old called her a Karen and a bitch. He really took up for himself. Old people rule! ;)
 
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Everyone says the pandemic has brought out the worst in people. I think some were always despicable and it has given them an excuse to show it (especially the mask controversy).

I do think it's great that an 80 year-old called her a Karen and a bitch. He really took up for himself. Old people rule! ;)
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I agree, these nutters were just looking for a reason to go off the rails about something. The more they see it happening, the more their ready to take their turns.

I really feel sorry for all the workers on the planes these days, and the pilots. Like you say, bad enough having to deal with the Covid, but having to be affected by aggressive thugs is really too much. They should be banned from all flights, IMO.

I'd be furious just being a passenger on one of these flights. I was never crazy about flying and rarely did, but it was at least comforting to have calm and reasonable stewards and stewardesses and considerate friendly fellow passengers. This has gone too far, these rowdies feel they have the green light to do as they feel, they need to pay the price.
 
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There are entirely too many flakes walking around just looking for something or somebody to go off on.
Maybe she wanted to be on the 6 o'clock news.
Is it not enough that we have to deal with this pandemic every day we also have these crazies on every corner.
This is happening too often, if they are not insisting you wear a mask, they're trying to rip your mask off and calling you sheep.
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I posted about another one of those idiots awhile back - before masks & vaccines.
There were lines at markets back then; they only let a few people in at a time.
I'm in line at Trader Joe's. One (BIG) guy took his cart with him while he waited in line. No problem; people were spaced 6 ft apart, anyway & the cart was not in anyone's way; he had it alongside him.
An idiot (not an employee) decked out in gloves & constantly rubbing hand sanitizer on his gloves told the big guy, "Sir, you shouldn't have your cart with you in line; you should take your cart as you enter the store."
Big guy says, "Who the hell are you?" (people in line snickering)
Idiot says, "It doesn't matter who I am; you're not supposed to have your cart with you. Return it to the cart area."
Big guy gets 1 inch from idiot, looks down at him & says, "I suggest you shop somewhere else, before you get hurt."
Idiot gets back in line.
Then, there was this idiot who was even more stupid & ended up hospitalized with a fractured leg after poking a younger woman with her cane:
 
Another "Karen"! WTH is WRONG with people!! How is she telling him to wear his mask and she's not wearing hers properly?! I'm so glad to read that the FBI got involved. I hope she gets the max punishment. Ooooh...if she'd gotten up in my face like that!! (And no...this is not really me). There have been too many instances on planes, especially since the start of COVID. Solidifies my resolve to stay off airplanes.

@win231 And the same thing applies to the older woman in the video. An old a*s Karen. She got sympathy on the news but she started it by putting her dirty, nasty cane on the girl's person. It's likely she lost her balance not after the girl tried to keep her away. That was so unnecessary, so IMO, she got what she deserved.

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Another "Karen"! WTH is WRONG with people!! How is she telling him to wear his mask and she's not wearing hers properly?! I'm so glad to read that the FBI got involved. I hope she gets the max punishment. Ooooh...if she'd gotten up in my face like that!! (And no...this is not really me). There have been too many instances on planes, especially since the start of COVID. Solidifies my resolve to stay off airplanes.

@win231 And the same thing applies to the older woman in the video. An old a*s Karen. She got sympathy on the news but she started it by putting her dirty, nasty cane on the girl's person. It's likely she lost her balance not after the girl tried to keep her away. That was so unnecessary, so IMO, she got what she deserved.

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I really "like" the way the moronic reporters say the younger woman threw the older woman to the ground after the older woman asked her to wear her mask properly. How convenient that they don't mention the older fool poking the woman with the bottom of her cane - which is the filthiest part of it.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Another "Karen"! WTH is WRONG with people!! How is she telling him to wear his mask and she's not wearing hers properly?! I'm so glad to read that the FBI got involved. I hope she gets the max punishment. Ooooh...if she'd gotten up in my face like that!! (And no...this is not really me). There have been too many instances on planes, especially since the start of COVID. Solidifies my resolve to stay off airplanes.

@win231 And the same thing applies to the older woman in the video. An old a*s Karen. She got sympathy on the news but she started it by putting her dirty, nasty cane on the girl's person. It's likely she lost her balance not after the girl tried to keep her away. That was so unnecessary, so IMO, she got what she deserved.
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She lost her balance?? Are you kidding me? The young woman GRABBED the cane and yanked…HARD. It’s clear in the video.
 

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