dobielvr
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Well, that'd be a scary sight to see at 2:00 in the morning!
Today Show host 84 year old mom is missing in Arizona-'concerning circumstances'
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Shows planning which means they knew the house and occupant was related to Savanah.
The mustache some say is the son in law but others say body weight/type doesn't match up. But the kidnappers knew she was associated with or connect to people with money. I just do see totally random. A contractor with current or ex gang ties might have tipped them off.
The mustache some say is the son in law but others say body weight/type doesn't match up. But the kidnappers knew she was associated with or connect to people with money. I just do see totally random. A contractor with current or ex gang ties might have tipped them off.
CallMeKate
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Have you heard anything definitive that says Savannah's connection is why Nancy was "chosen" for an abduction? If it's not family, I was thinking maybe it was just someone casing out the secluded neighborhood for "an elderly lady who lives alone." Guess it could go either way, but maybe I missed something that was reported.
KSav
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I know, right? Those images terrify me.
The biggest issue is a kidnapper would have known the victim had access to money even if indirectly. Do other residents in that area have access to money?
CallMeKate
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From the camera pans of reporters, it looked like a rather affluent area, yes.
RambleTamble
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I was wondering how they could recover images and videos from "residual data" since Nancy Guthrie didn't have a subscription that saves her surveillance videos to the "cloud." This is what AI gave me...
In the Nancy Guthrie case, the recovery of video from "backend systems" despite the lack of a subscription is a result of forensic data remanence and the way cloud architecture handles information during a "live" event.
While a standard user cannot access video without a paid plan, the data still moves through the provider's infrastructure. Here is how investigators recovered it:
That explains why it took so to recover the images. The FBI should be able to get the guy now. Somebody will recognize him.
In the Nancy Guthrie case, the recovery of video from "backend systems" despite the lack of a subscription is a result of forensic data remanence and the way cloud architecture handles information during a "live" event.
While a standard user cannot access video without a paid plan, the data still moves through the provider's infrastructure. Here is how investigators recovered it:
- Transient Buffering: Even without a subscription, cameras like the Google Nest (confirmed as the brand in Guthrie's home) still transmit data to the cloud to provide "Live View" and "Motion Alerts" to the user's phone. This data briefly exists on the provider’s servers during the transmission process.
- Residual Fragments: In high-priority criminal cases, the FBI works with private sector partners to scan "unallocated space" on those backend servers. Fragments of the video stream—known as residual data—can sometimes be reconstructed even if they were never officially "saved" to a user's account.
- System Logs and Metadata: Software at the home recorded movement minutes after the camera was disconnected at 1:47 a.m.. By matching these logs with temporary cache files on the service provider's side, forensic experts can "pull back" images that were in transit when the motion was detected.
- Private Sector Cooperation: A spokesperson for Google confirmed they are "assisting law enforcement". This level of deep-system recovery typically requires federal legal authority and specialized tools that bypass the standard user interface.
That explains why it took so to recover the images. The FBI should be able to get the guy now. Somebody will recognize him.