Turning 65 in January and sad

Amen to that.

I'm approaching 70, have known allot of people...I have never had anyone tell me they were happily married.
I have heard, content, it's OK I guess, could be worse, she's a good cook....heard similar from females, he's a good dad, provider, he isn't abusive, not a drunk,....& others. NEVER EVER heard happy/ happily married from either camp.

My half sister may be the exception. She & her hubby seem to be quietly happy....she never has complained about him, nor him complain about her. His job [now retired] required a bit of travel, many times she went along. They are both golf nuts & seem to share that together. She & I aren't "close" so we don't have "talks" .

Most folks I now know are married 2nd & some 3rd time. For the life of me I don't know why they keep trying ? particularly when I have heard most of their horror stories about the last one.

Of course in the stages of advanced aging I suppose 'content' [is] an accomplishment ?

Others have posted about not knowing any happy married couples. The gf and I have been together over thirteen years. Yep, we've had a few rough patches, but we are very happy, by and large. Those who marry several times are simply living by that old adage concerning trying again. Different strokes for different folks, though. If someone is sincerely happy being a solo act, so be it. For many, if not most, having a significant other far outweighs the "joys" of going it alone.
 

Others have posted about not knowing any happy married couples. The gf and I have been together over thirteen years. Yep, we've had a few rough patches, but we are very happy, by and large. Those who marry several times are simply living by that old adage concerning trying again. Different strokes for different folks, though. If someone is sincerely happy being a solo act, so be it. For many, if not most, having a significant other far outweighs the "joys" of going it alone.


But...you & the GF, are not married. I have a suspicion that it does make a difference?
 
But...you & the GF, are not married. I have a suspicion that it does make a difference?

The only reason we're not married is because we're opposed to Big Government/Big Legal having its nose in our personal business. I've always been anti-marriage, EXCEPT where having kids are concerned. Absent kids, I see no good reason, at all, to ever "tie the knot." A well written, periodically updated will, can do just about everything that marriage automatically does, when it comes to end of life issues. As I write contracts for part of my income, I have no problem with wills.
 

Y'know, this brings to mind what I wanted for my life, what I expected my life to be, by the time I got to be in my 60's.

And it's interesting. My life at 65 bears almost NO resemblance to what I had envisioned for myself when I was young, and had hopes and dreams for my future. I wanted children, and had wanted them for as long as I can remember. I recall thinking when I was young, well if I don't find someone to marry me and have children with, I'll get pregnant anyway, or adopt, or get artificially inseminated, and I don't CARE what anyone thinks!!! (this was way back in the day when any of those scenarios would have been scandalous or at least highly unusual for a single woman!)

But other than that, there is no aspect of my life that is what I expected it would be. Nothing turned out like I hoped it would. I would marry just once, to a wonderful man, we'd have all these children, work hard to own our own home, raise the kids in it and then have it for them to return to and bring their children to when they grew up and got married. I would stay home and raise my babies, my husband would work hard to support us and I would support him by being an excellent homemaker and making things nice. We would retire in a timely manner, take little trips here and there, and I would be available to spend lots of time with the grandkids, bake cookies, go to all their school things, do all the quintessential grandmother stuff, wear my hair long and in a bun.

Did any of that happen. HELL NO! Yes, I had kids, and now grandkids. And I adore them and they me, and we are a very close family. But all the other stuff? Nope. Never owned my own home, never owned a new car, my husband was an abusive, nasty deadbeat who was capable of earning 6 figures but hated to work so I mostly supported us, working 6 and 7 day weeks at times. We moved around a lot, because he had such a wanderlust, or because we got evicted for non payment of rent, or because we had to dodge creditors. We moved across the country and back three different times, NONE of them of my choosing. We lived a nomadic, crazy life when all I wanted was normalcy.

I came into my own in my 50's, got divorced, and started to finally LIVE my life, on MY terms, and to hell with everyone, to hell with societal norms, to hell with what should be expected of me as an older woman, and to hell with what my hopes and dreams were when I was younger. None of that, other than my children, worked out the way I wanted it to. So what now? Sink into despair that my life didn't turn out the way I'd planned? Or make new goals?

I chose the second option. I trash canned all those things that I'd been holding onto, the goals and hopes and dreams and plans that I'd had, and that I'd been trying to make happen through the entirety of my disastrous 30 year marriage. Nope. Not gonna happen. It had been feeling for a long time like I was trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole, so I stopped trying.

Took stock. I was gonna have to work well into my 70's because of the financial ruin my ex had left me with, the mountain of debt, the disastrous credit score. Better get healthy then! Changed my diet, my way of life, my eating habits. Started to exercise. Started to train as a ballroom dancer. Hated my job, so became self employed as an organizer and personal assistant, things I LOVE to do and now I got to make money at them!!! What else? Always wanted some piercings, got them. Always wanted some tattoos, got them (work in progress still) Always wanted to cut my hair but my ex forbade me to get it cut, so I got a short, pixieish choppy cut, and turned the gray bits turquoise. Or pink. Or green, whatever.

The point? I grieved for a time over the loss of my hopes and dreams, and over the wretchedness that my life bore no resemblance to what I wanted for it. It didn't turn out at all the way I'd planned, and here I am mid 50's, my life more than half over, and so my life really IS over. Nothing left to do but wait for the end.

Finally, after wallowing a while, I put on my big girl panties and just dived in to make what was left of my life the best it could be. I live with regrets. Who doesn't? But I've learned that I regret far more the things I DIDN'T do than the things I DID do, even if they didn't turn out for the best. And so I wasn't going to NOT do things and then regret later that I hadn't done them. Much better to DO things!

So, lovetoswim, what are YOUR plans? What do you like to do? What are your aspirations at this juncture in your life? Trash your old plans, and make new ones! It's never too late!
 
Interesting story, Ronni.
Well, I never married but my hunch is that it would not have worked.
If your marriage was so bad, (and it sounds terrible)why didn't you leave?

When I read about the inner turmoil of others, I usually realize that
I am usually worse off, I hate to admit it. Most people have some serious
issues or problems and it is all relative, and it doesn't help comparing yourself
to others who are happier or unhappier. One's mental/physical state determines our
choices or lack of them. At least mine. You know the poem and song "Richard Cory"?
I know of many people with no ambitions or goals and they are content with that--they won't be
disappointed.
Hey Ronni, Nashville is a nice city. I wish I was there.
 
I know of many people with no ambitions or goals and they are content with that--they won't be disappointed.

Victor, I disagree. Unless they get an inheritance or find someone to mooch off, they will have a hard time surviving when they get old. My daughter and family are like that, no ambition or goals, always asking for money from parents on both sides to avoid foreclosure, and probably expecting to get inheritances. I finally told my daughter, after giving her $2400 in June to avoid another foreclosure, that the ''bank'' is closed and I haven't heard from her since then. Let them find another sucker when the next foreclosure is imminent.
 
Interesting story, Ronni.
Well, I never married but my hunch is that it would not have worked.
If your marriage was so bad, (and it sounds terrible)why didn't you leave?
Fair question if you’re not familiar with the abusive personality type and the abuse dynamic. Abuse is about control, power and domination, making loved ones less than, so you can have power over them. It’s about isolating your victims so they have no support network, no one to compare one’s own ā€œnormalā€ with. (Part of the reason he kept moving us around and across the country 3 different times.) It’s about instilling fear, finding out what is nearest and dearest to you and then controlling you with that by threatening you with the loss of it. (In my case my children. He would divorce me and get custody of them and I’d never see them again. I believed he had that power) It’s about slowly grooming your victims to accept domination, to become submissive and subservient. It’s chronic and systematic, debilitating and wretched. I was cowed, timid, hopeless and passively suicidal person. It was only when he turned viciously against my youngest child, my only daughter, that I finally found the courage to leave, realized that the behavior I was modeling for her by staying was unhealthy and wrong, and what I was modeling for my boys was that it was ok to treat women this way. It took me two years of covertly planning, marshaling my resources slowly but resolutely, doing everything in absolute secret, before I finally made my escape. Other than having each of my children it was the best decision I ever made no matter how terrified I was!

Hey Ronni, Nashville is a nice city. I wish I was there.

its a lovely place, you’re right. It’s grown ridiculously in the last 10 years though!!!
 
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Ive got totally confused between this thread and the other one titled ā€˜My dad stalks me online’ ! and just spent five minutes wondering where ronknights has gone, :lofl:.........time to log off I think
 
lovetoswim, don't let the lack of fulfilled dreams drag you down. You still have a lot of living to do. I'm 68, been married & divorced. No kids. I owned a mobile home, but let it go. I had a car, but sold it after my marriage ended. I was poor for almost 3 years until I received my Social Security Disability. In many ways, my life really took off after I'd let go of the marriage, the car and the job.

Owning a home can be an incredible burden. When I had a mobile home, I had to cope with a leaky roof, broken washer, etc. A house and car can expose you to so many expenses that are hard when you're living on a fixed monthly income.

Don't waste time sitting alone at home. Do you have a good place you can just go, and "smell the roses?!" A place to meet others? I love living in a Senior Citizen's Apartment building. All these people are "like me!"
 


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