UK bans sale of cigarettes to future generations.

Messy said:
Yes that's what some said on a Dutch forum a year ago or so, me too. Why does that get taxed so insane? And also patches to be able to stop with it. Crazy expensive. But not beer, wine, sugar, fat. They literally did that. We now have a sugar tax, meat tax whatever nonsense tax and everyone just goes to Germany to buy groceries.
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That's what some neighbors were doing a few years ago when the state increased its tobacco tax- driving to a different state where the cost was lower. As they're planning to increase it again, not only do they miss the point that it creates an unfair burden on low-income people AND it deprives local businesses of what they'd make from selling the products.
 
Aunt Bea said:
This caught my eye, not sure how I feel about it.

“The UK Parliament has passed the Tobacco and Vapes Bill, officially banning the sale of tobacco products to anyone born on or after January 1, 2009. This legislation, set to take effect in 2027, creates a "smoke-free generation" by permanently raising the legal smoking age by one year annually.”

Bill banning people born after 2008 from buying tobacco clears UK parliament
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just more proof that the islamification of the UK is almost complete.
 
Michael Z said:
Total tax revenue in the US is about 4 billion per year. But the offset of this are all the associated health care costs to the taxpayer which probably outweigh this revenue, like for example treatment for lung cancer via Medicare.
National Totals of State Tax Revenue: T16 Tobacco Products Sales Tax for the United States
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If they want people to stop and are really concerned about their health instead of money, they should not tax nicotin patches. In Holland they gave it for free. I stopped a few years ago because of it. These patches were so insane expensive and now you got em for free via healthcare plus a coach. A lot of people stopped this way.
 
Sunkist said:
When a certain individual was president, states were told they would no longer receive highway funding if they didn't increase it to 21.
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Interesting. I had no idea, and I'm not sure what the connection was between highways and drinking age, but in politics, there doesn't have to be a connection, I suppose. It's usually about leverage, anyway. But 21 does seem like a reasonable age to become a drunk. Where I lived, whether the drinking age was 21 or 18, it made no difference. Teenagers were busy practicing as early as 15 or 16. Some younger.
 
Additional taxes on sugared products isn't sarcasm. It's been going on for several years in some states (12 years in California). Using that logic, additional taxes could be leveraged on potatoes, rice, bread, pasta, and so on. Carbohydrates have the greatest impact on raising blood sugar among all macronutrients.
 
As for health care costs, I believe now the highest is for diseases caused by obesity. Is there a way to tax that? Get rid of the federal debt very quickly?
 
MACKTEXAS said:
Additional taxes on sugared products isn't sarcasm. It's been going on for several years in some states (12 years in California). Using that logic, additional taxes could be leveraged on potatoes, rice, bread, pasta, and so on. Carbohydrates have the greatest impact on raising blood sugar among all macronutrients.
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Hey, keep it down will ya? We already have a sugared drink tax here in Philedelphia. Its bad enough that Orange juice gets that tax.
 
There’s no smoking allowed in state and federal buildings here in the U.S. Most restaurants and private clubs have gone the same way.
I don’t care if people smoke, but like Holly, don’t do it in my space. I have an occasional drink, especially if we dine in a restaurant or club.
It hasn’t been too long ago that superstar markets started selling booze with the exception of the hard stuff over 12.5%.
No matter what your age is if buying alcohol in a supermarket in my area, the buyer must present an ID.
 
That's great to hear about the UK trying to reduce smoking in future generations. I wish so much that all burning would be banned, I don't really care if someone wants to do nicotine or marijuana, but I don't want to have to breathe it.

Smoke seeks me out, I was on a boat tour on the Amalfi coast of Italy in open air and suddenly I was breathing cigarette smoke, I looked around and it was our tour guide in the back of the boat on the opposite side from me, but dang if the smoke didn't make a beeline right over to my seat!

Countless times I'll be out on a walk enjoying the fresh air and perfume of the blossoming bushes/trees and out of nowhere I'm slammed with cigarette smoke, oh I hate that experience so much. My lungs are very reactive to it, and I might also have an allergy to it because it makes me very upset feeling.
 
OldFeller said:
It has always baffled me why people smoke.

Don't they respect their health? Do they have a death wish?

It doesn't strike you that replacing oxygen with the by product of burning leaves is a stupid idea?

How about just being able to breathe?
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Well...we're all young and dumb at some point in our lives and I find it hard to believe that some have never made a bad choice in life. You never had a drink or a smoke or made any stupid decisions in your younger years that affected you later on in life? If so I commend you.

When I was younger I didn't care about my health. I was just out there living life. Am I paying for it now...yes. But there's no guarantee that had I followed a clean and healthy lifestyle and never made a single bad choice in life that I would still be alive and healthy today. Life is funny that way. Anything can happen. It's like living in a game of Russian Roulette. I could've done all the right things and been killed in a car accident at 20 or murdered at 40. Life is unpredictable.

Some people like my father smoked from age 14 on. He's in his 80s. He's dying because of it but he's lived a full life regardless.
 
Sunkist said:
That's what some neighbors were doing a few years ago when the state increased its tobacco tax- driving to a different state where the cost was lower. As they're planning to increase it again, not only do they miss the point that it creates an unfair burden on low-income people AND it deprives local businesses of what they'd make from selling the products.
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we also have a sugar tax..been in place for the last 8 years...

Unfortunately we don't have ''states'' here in the Uk, so when a tax is implemented it's on the whole coutry,... so we can't drive anywhere to get it cheaper... We can fly to another European country, however were then sevrely restricted to what we can bring through customs...
 
MarciKS said:
Well...we're all young and dumb at some point in our lives and I find it hard to believe that some have never made a bad choice in life. You never had a drink or a smoke or made any stupid decisions in your younger years that affected you later on in life? If so I commend you.

When I was younger I didn't care about my health. I was just out there living life. Am I paying for it now...yes. But there's no guarantee that had I followed a clean and healthy lifestyle and never made a single bad choice in life that I would still be alive and healthy today. Life is funny that way. Anything can happen. It's like living in a game of Russian Roulette. I could've done all the right things and been killed in a car accident at 20 or murdered at 40. Life is unpredictable.

Some people like my father smoked from age 14 on. He's in his 80s. He's dying because of it but he's lived a full life regardless.
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Marci... similar to my father..

he started smoking at 9 years old... but he never drank... and he lived until he was 82.. never gave up smoking once. he smoked a pack a day .

he never got any smoking disease, and he was always very fit right up until he got parkinsons in his 70's which lead to the strokes that killed him at 82
 
@OldFeller I do hope you realize I'm just having a discussion with you and not trying to be hostile. I get dismissed a lot and put on ignore I think because people seem to take issue with having a discussion with me.
 
OldFeller said:
It has always baffled me why people smoke.

Don't they respect their health? Do they have a death wish?

It doesn't strike you that replacing oxygen with the by product of burning leaves is a stupid idea?

How about just being able to breathe?
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My Dad started smoking when he was 14, in 1936. Thirty years later, he died of cancer one day after his 44th birthday. :cry:
 
What gets me is all the characters that smoke in movies. A lot of them are smoking in every single scene. WTF? Why do they feel the need to do that? People don't smoke that much any more in real life. I could see it if they're depicting a different time, like the '70s when a lot of people smoked, but they don't need to show smoking in every single scene. It's a disgusting habit. People complain about the violence in movies, but what about all the smoking, which kills more people than guns or car crashes combined?
 
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