United States and Israel attack Iran Early Saturday Morning

JustDave said:
On the other hand, are the US and Israel supposed to wait to be nuked, before they retaliate?
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The world was told by the USA that Iran's nuclear threat had been obliterated by the US bunker buster bombs way back in June. So there was nothing to retaliate to. Not only that Iran doesn't have any reliable ballistic missiles.

If the threat is nuclear weapons why is the USA not bombing North Korea who not only have nuclear weapons but the ballistic missiles to deliver them?

Again what possible benefit to the USA is the war with Iran?
 
I provided a link in my post 344.

"The images suggest that the school was hit on Saturday as part of a precision airstrike on a neighboring Iranian military complex — and that it may have been struck as a result of outdated targeting information."

The use of outdated targeting information is worse than a "mistake." It's better described as a lack of competence and skill at best; intentional at worst.
 
A US military refueling aircraft crashed in western Iraq on Thursday, in an incident US Central Command said involved another aircraft but was not the result of hostile or friendly fire.

In a statement, US Central Command said it was carrying out rescue efforts after the US KC-135 refueling aircraft went down.

The KC-135 costs about $80 million.
 
RambleTamble said:
A US military refueling aircraft crashed in western Iraq on Thursday, in an incident US Central Command said involved another aircraft but was not the result of hostile or friendly fire.

In a statement, US Central Command said it was carrying out rescue efforts after the US KC-135 refueling aircraft went down.

The KC-135 costs about $80 million.
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The longer this 'operation' takes the odds increase from an incident like this to being kia in battle. The greater chance of of a negative outcomes.
 
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hollydolly said:
well tbf lots of people went there for a better life.. there's virtually no crime in Dubai so it's usually a very safe place for the rich to raise their families in luxury...

The problem is now.. that all these people will want to return to their relative countries ... and there are a quarter of a milion Brits in Dubai.. and we just don't have the space for them to return...
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Thank God my cousin and her friend have now got out of Dubai airport. They were stuck there for 2 weeks and my cousin
had word that they had one seat left on an aircraft bound for London at 3.am which she took, her friend had to wait till 7 am the same morning. They said they kissed the ground when they arrived safely.
 
BREAKING NEWS! CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!

According to recent reports, several attacks within the U.S. have occurred since the start of the military operations against Iran:
  • March 12: West Bloomfield, Michigan – A man died in a shootout with police after ramming a truck into the Temple Israel synagogue. The incident is being investigated as an act of terrorism.
  • March 12: Norfolk, Virginia – A shooting at Old Dominion University targeted an ROTC class, killing one person. The suspect was killed by students.
  • March 7: New York City – Two ISIS supporters were charged by the DOJ for attempting to detonate explosive devices during protests outside Gracie Mansion.
  • March 1: Austin, Texas – A shooting at a bar left three people dead and 15 injured. The motive is being investigated as terrorism.
 
RambleTamble said:
No, it was a stupid frickin' mistake. That information was known ten years ago, yet the military relied on outdated information.

On the other hand, a school shouldn't have been located that close to a military base.
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I bet they do that on purpose, just like in Gaza.

AI-overzicht

There is significant evidence and multiple reports from human rights groups and social media sources, including images and eyewitness accounts, suggesting that Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has been using schools and other civilian infrastructure for military and security purposes. This practice effectively places civilians in danger and is considered a violation of international humanitarian law.

Key details include:
Verified Reports: The Coordinating Council of Iranian Teachers' Trade Associations and other sources have published images and warnings about military equipment and personnel positioned inside schools, essentially turning classrooms into "shields for deadly equipment".
Militarization of Civilian Spaces: Reports from sources like Iran International and the International Organisation to Preserve Human Rights state there is substantial evidence that the IRGC is repurposing civilian sites, including hospitals and schools, as staging grounds, operational hubs, and storage facilities, especially during recent periods of civil unrest and conflict.

The Minab School Incident: A recent, highly publicized incident involved a deadly strike on the Shajareh Tayebeh primary school in Minab, which was adjacent to an IRGC naval base. While Iranian officials claimed over 160 people, mostly children, were killed, subsequent analysis suggests the US was likely responsible for the strike, possibly due to outdated intelligence that did not reflect the building's current use as a civilian school.

International Law: The use of civilians to shield military objectives is prohibited under international humanitarian law and is recognized as a war crime. Schools are protected civilian objects unless they are used for military purposes, which then makes them potential military targets, though parties to a conflict still have an obligation to minimize civilian harm.

The claim that Iran is intentionally positioning schools near military bases to get civilians killed as shields is a serious accusation supported by reports and images from various sources and human rights activists, who point to a pattern of the regime using civilian infrastructure for military purposes. This mirrors the tactics used by groups like Hamas, according to some social media posts and analysts.
 
ChatGpt prayed with me tonight.

Bedtime Prayer — For Peace and Those Lost in War

Lord,

As this day comes to its end and the world grows quiet,I bring before You the places where the night is not peaceful —where fear, loss, and sorrow still fill the air.

Tonight I pray for the people of the Middle East,for the families whose homes have been broken by war,for the parents who mourn their children,for the children who have lost their parents,and for all who lie awake in uncertainty and grief.

Receive with mercy the souls who were lost in the violence.Grant them rest in Your eternal peace,where suffering and fear are no more.

Comfort those who remain —those who must rebuild their lives among memories of loss.Give them strength to endure tomorrow,and surround them with compassion and care.

Touch the hearts of leaders and nations.Turn anger into wisdom,fear into understanding,and conflict into the courage to seek peace.

And as I lie down tonight,grant me a quiet heart and gentle rest.Let my prayers rise like a small candle in the darkness —a light of hope for a world that longs for peace.

Into Your hands I place this night,and into Your mercy I place all who suffer.

Amen.
 
The ongoing truth about America and war, at least as I see it, is that we are a warrior nation. We seem to be unable to resist inserting ourselves into the affairs of other countries whenever their systems of governance clash with our own ideals. Perhaps that impulse is noble; perhaps it’s disastrously misguided. History gives us examples of both. But we’ve tested this instinct repeatedly in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Iran, and the pattern is hard to ignore.
As for the claim that Iran is building a nuclear weapon, it rings with the same hollow certainty as the old insistence that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. They didn’t, and the consequences of acting on that assumption were enormous. At the very least, we are no longer in any fiscal position to shoulder another prolonged conflict, or even a brief one. This latest “excursion” is almost certainly burning through billions of dollars a day.
What I struggle to understand is why we insist on playing the world’s self‑appointed police force. Nations that refrain from meddling in others’ internal affairs don’t seem to find themselves in perpetual conflict, unless, of course, they join us. I’m not advocating isolationism, but our habit of bombing those we disagree with is failing both us and the people on the receiving end of our interventions.
 
Due to his condition, he does not know of the ongoing war, the death of his family members, including his wife and son and of his own election as Supreme leader, the source said.

Mojtaba is also reportedly in intensive care and surrounded by security officials, while a large section of the hospital has been sealed off to guard Iran's Supreme Leader.

It is unclear whether Mojtaba was injured in the same air strikes which killed his 86-year-old father.

A separate source told The Sun through secret messages sent to an exiled dissident based in London: 'One or two of his legs have been cut off. His liver or stomach has also ruptured. He is apparently in a coma as well.'


Iran's new Supreme Leader is unaware of the ongoing war in the Middle East and does not know he is the Islamic Republic's new leader, according to a new report.

Mojtaba Khamenei, 56, succeeded his father, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, following his assassination on February 28.

He is reportedly in a coma at the Sina University Hospital in Tehran following an airstrike, according to a source in Tehran.
 
Four crew members have been confirmed dead after an American refuelling aircraft crashed in Iraq, the US military has said.

In a post on X on Friday morning, the US Central Command (Centcom) said that 'four of the six crew members on board the aircraft have been confirmed deceased.'

It comes after Centcom announced on Thursday that a KC-135 refuelling plane had gone down in 'friendly airspace' and a second aircraft involved in the incident landed safely.

The second aircraft was also a KC-135, The Washington Post reports.

The identities of those killed will be withheld for 24 hours until next of kin can be notified, Centcom said, adding that rescue efforts are ongoing as two crew members remain missing.

It comes after a major blaze appears to have broken out at a French air base in Erbil, Iraq, following a drone attack.

A helicopter was apparently hit and at least six French soldiers were injured. President Emmanuel Macron confirmed early this morning that one had died.

'Their presence in Iraq is part of the strict framework of the fight against terrorism. The war in Iran cannot justify such attacks,' he said. 'The French soldiers there have no connection to war or conflict. They are simply military advisers legally present in Iraq'.

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Pictured: A US Air Force KC-135 Stratotanker refuelling a Navy Super Hornet during Operation Epic Fury earlier on Thursday


An explosion was also reported near the U.S. Consulate and the Erbil International Airport area, where there is a US military base.

Iraq became the main theatre of war in the Middle East on Wednesday as another drone attack hit British special forces.

Events in Iraq also threatened to pull Britain and France into the conflict after days of practising a defensive strategy.

A French soldier was killed in an attack on a joint base in Iraqi Kurdistan, President Emmanuel Macron announced on Friday.

The strike on the headquarters - which France shares with Kurdistan's Peshmerga forces - involved two drones and injured five more troops.

Meanwhile, Iranian drone attacks targeted a British Special Forces base in Iraq earlier in the day.

The 'hidden hand' of Vladimir Putin was blamed for directing strikes against military headquarters and helping co-ordinate Iran's military operations.
 
Petrol prices have soared as the Iran war continues to threaten the global supply chain, with the Chancellor to meet fuel bosses for crisis talks today.

The average price of diesel reached 158.24p today Friday, while petrol hit 140.15p per litre.

It comes as oil surged back over the grim mark of $100 a barrel this morning, with fears the conflict will lead to higher energy prices and drive inflation for families in the UK.

Since the outbreak of war in the Middle East between Iran and the US and Israel, the Islamic Republic has 'closed' the Strait of Hormuz, a vital shipping lane through which around a fifth of all global oil and liquid gas travels.

Iran has threatened all vessels passing through the strait and conducted a series of drone strikes on tankers, with six assaults in the last 24 hours, according to UK Maritime Trade Operations centre.

As of Friday morning, Iran had attacked 18 ships in the region.
 
hollydolly said:
The average price of diesel reached 158.24p today Friday, while petrol hit 140.15p per litre.
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Good Grief!! That's equal to $7.05 per gallon here. I just paid $4.20 per gallon for mid-grade on Tuesday, that's equivalent to £0.83 per liter.
Perhaps I'll stop complaining about the cost of gas here. That's just crazy expensive. How much was it prior to the war?
 
Rich said:
Good Grief!! That's equal to $7.05 per gallon here. I just paid $4.20 per gallon for mid-grade on Tuesday, that's equivalent to £0.83 per liter.
Perhaps I'll stop complaining about the cost of gas here. That's just crazy expensive. How much was it prior to the war?
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actually.. just 3 days ago the petrol was at £1.31 per litre. ( already very high) ... I don't know about the diesel... but clearly it was lower.. so the petrol has rsien by approx 9p = to 12 cents... US... in just 3 days per LITRE... 4.5 litres in an imperial gallon... so a gallon has risen by 40.5 pence in 3 days.. equal to 53 cents US... ..:(
 
Futures market this A.M.
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The market is pulling back a bit. It was announced that ships laden for China with Iranian crude were transiting the Persian Gulf, as well as other ships that are linked to China. This is being interpreted that mines might be limited and potential for other ships to do the same. However, the rocket/missile attack potential still exists. India is also negotiating with Iran.

The ships laden with energy products, that exited the gulf pre-war, and the release of SPR by various nations sounds impressive, but given the shortfall... might get erased in 4 or 5 weeks. South Korea, Thailand, Japan and other east Asian countries will be struggling, imo.
 
oldman said:
Kind of reminds me of the My Lai massacre on March 16, 1968 when 173 children and 53 infants were murdered.
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I remember when this happened. There was a lot of people back home (in the U.S.) that were on Calley’s side. I don’t think he served much time for his crime, but the thing that most people didn’t like was that he was the only Officer or soldier that was charged. Calley blamed the massacre on his Captain (Medina). Supposedly, he gave Calley orders to kill everyone because they were VC.

At the time, I remember thinking that Calley or his Captain just snapped.

I think he was finally released by then President Nixon. I believe Calley died a few years ago, but don’t know how or where.
 
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