Unkind/Kind nature: Hereditary or Acquired

GAlady said:
I believe you are born good or evil. You have a good child raised in a nurturing environment and good always prevails. That same child raised in an evil environment will mature as evil. But their genetic good trait will emerge eventually. I am 75 and that is what I have seen over my lifetime.
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Thank you for your input and your valuable personal experience!
 
Gaer said:
This is just my opinion as I feel human intellect is not a good judge of this.
The soul is pure and sweet.
Many elements affect the behavior as;
the evolution of the soul,
the nervous system,
the clarity of useful, purposeful thought,
the development of the qualities of the heart, as manners, tolerance, kindness, compassion, etc.
Karma.
The soul rebounds from all creation and surroundings.
Harm any soul has done to others in all the past will return from all strata of nature for immeasurable time.
After considering all factors, "Is a kind or unkind nature acquired or hereditary?"
I would have to say BOTH.

as always: IMO
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Thank you for your eloquent input! I understand that you consider heredity to play a role in the traits of a human. Would you consider the conditions of one's development to be strong enough to reverse this role?
 
I have read that some sociopaths may have had a pre-frontal cortex disorder. Their brain didn't develop normally and as a result were born with no empathy, were anti-social, and lacked emotions in general. Although treatable to a certain degree, the symptoms manifested themselves in various ways and they were considered "born bad".
 
caroln said:
I have read that some sociopaths may have had a pre-frontal cortex disorder. Their brain didn't develop normally and as a result were born with no empathy, were anti-social, and lacked emotions in general. Although treatable to a certain degree, the symptoms manifested themselves in various ways and they were considered "born bad".
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Thank you for the valuable knowledge shared!
 
I don't believe there is an "either"/ "or". It probably is both. Humans are way too complicated for just one motivation for behavior. Nobody is "bad" 24/7, and conversely, nobody is "good" 24/7. People assume roles at multiple times of the day. So a serial killer can be a doting, loving father. There is a problem in psychiatry/psychology, in that symptoms can be caused by chemical imbalances , genetics, and injuries to the brain. But those same symptoms can be caused by emotional trauma. So, if a person exhibits antisocial behavior, what is the cause?
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I don't believe there is an "either"/ "or". It probably is both. Humans are way too complicated for just one motivation for behavior. Nobody is "bad" 24/7, and conversely, nobody is "good" 24/7. People assume roles at multiple times of the day. So a serial killer can be a doting, loving father. There is a problem in psychiatry/psychology, in that symptoms can be caused by chemical imbalances , genetics, and injuries to the brain. But those same symptoms can be caused by emotional trauma. So, if a person exhibits antisocial behavior, what is the cause?
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Thank you for your contribution and for the new element inserted.

I understand that people get their traits both by heredity and by their experiences during their lives but you have also introduced the traits due to "diseases/syndromes/medical conditions" that happen (out of their control) during their life.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I don't believe there is an "either"/ "or". It probably is both. Humans are way too complicated for just one motivation for behavior. Nobody is "bad" 24/7, and conversely, nobody is "good" 24/7. People assume roles at multiple times of the day. So a serial killer can be a doting, loving father. There is a problem in psychiatry/psychology, in that symptoms can be caused by chemical imbalances , genetics, and injuries to the brain. But those same symptoms can be caused by emotional trauma. So, if a person exhibits antisocial behavior, what is the cause?
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"So a serial killer can be a doting, loving father."
I was reminded of the "True Crime" documentary of Dennis Rader - known as the "BTK" killer (Bind, Torture, Kill). At least 10 victims. At his trial, he described in graphic detail how he tortured & murdered each victim & kept souvenirs from each. And he sounded casual as if there was nothing unusual about it. His son & daughter talked about how loving he was as their father.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader
 
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CAKCy said:
My understanding is that you believe that the traits are acquired and not hereditary.

With all due respect, I won't agree with your words. Giving you a glimpse of my "Whole person" theory, (a theory that I have developed for myself and believe in it firmly), you won't ever believe that your skin color is XXXX if your skin color is YYYY. That's because deep inside you, you have enough knowledge of yourself to be absolutely sure that your skin color is YYYY. To be vulnerable to external input about who one is, one must have low or no knowledge of oneself (low self-esteem). If one is absolutely certain that one is smart no external feedback about one's smartness will affect one's belief in oneself.
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@CAKCy I would be very careful when talking about my skin colour because I am of Australian Aboriginal Ancestry
I am what is colloquially known as a 'White Aboriginal'. I know what my skin colour is and I am very proud of it
 
peramangkelder said:
@CAKCy I would be very careful when talking about my skin colour because I am of Australian Aboriginal Ancestry
I am what is colloquially known as a 'White Aboriginal'. I know what my skin colour is and I am very proud of it
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I have been very careful when using the skin color as an example. All I wanted to point out is that nobody can convince you that your skin color is different than what it is because you are sure of what it is. To be convinced of something just because somebody repeats it to you (as you have stated) it means that you were not sure about it in the first place.
 
CAKCy said:
I have been very careful when using the skin color as an example. All I wanted to point out is that nobody can convince you that your skin color is different than what it is because you are sure of what it is. To be convinced of something just because somebody repeats it to you (as you have stated) it means that you were not sure about it in the first place.
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@CAKCy it would not matter what I said because you will disagree anyway
'I do not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it'
 
peramangkelder said:
@CAKCy it would not matter what I said because you will disagree anyway
'I do not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it'
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I assure you that I don't disagree just to disagree. Your statement was:
peramangkelder said:
@CAKCy if you are told often enough that you are stupid and everything you do is wrong you will believe it
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All I said was that this is not valid if you are sure about a trait of yours. For example, if you knew, and you had the facts to support it, that you are smart, would you ever be convinced that you are stupid just because someone tells it to you often enough?
 
win231 said:
That depends on who tells you that you are stupid. If you're referring to parents, I definitely agree.
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If one refers to parents and a child then I have to agree simply because the child is not old enough to know how smart he/she is and he/she doesn't have enough evidence to support it. I was referring to an adult.
 
Both Kind and Unkind...

If we were born only kind we wouldn't come out screaming...lol
We'd come out saying, "Whew, it was a wild ride but I'm grateful to be here"...ha

Seriously, I think we're born kind with the ability to choose between good and evil. Temptation visits us all.
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Lara said:
If we were born kind we wouldn't come out screaming.
We'd come out saying, "Whew, it was a wild ride but I'm grateful to be here"...haha

Seriously, I think we're born kind with choices between good and evil. Temptation visits us all.
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Thank you for your reply!
I agree with you completely!
 

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