Upbringing Seniors Had as Children vs Modern Day Parents and Their Kids

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When I was a child, I had both parents in the home. My mother didn't work, she kept house and cared for me and my three older siblings. She wasn't super strict, but she taught me right from wrong, manners, to respect my elders, and to be responsible for my words and actions.

I received some spankings, all well-deserved, but nothing excessive or abusive whatsoever. My mother loved me, and I hold nothing against her for the discipline I received as a child, I believe that it developed my character to be what it is today. Now children with threaten their parents if they dare to spank or discipline, and the parents fear some agency coming in on a false charge and taking action unfairly.

Years ago, children were rewarded if they excelled in school or did something exceptional in sports, arts, etc. They learned at home to be subordinate to their parents, and at school, to their teachers.

Now, it appears that many (not all) modern day parents follow orders from their child. They do everything they can to please them, and deny them very little. They praise their children even when they fail at something, or do something bad. The schools, from what I hear, no longer give awards to students who perform exceptionally well, or submit the best project in class. Every child gets notice, whether they worked hard or not. Competition in games, etc. is discouraged to some degree.

Now, many young people are having problems both in school and in the workplace. They are not used to taking orders from anyone, they are used to getting their own way and giving the orders. They cannot take constructive criticism, they believe that they are always right and that their way is the best.

Many seniors have done jobs early in life that were considered menial, fast food work, cleaning/painting jobs, etc. I know I have, and without thought, as I was employed to earn a paycheck and that was that. Young adults nowadays, will many times turn their noses up at 'blue color' positions. They'd rather be completely unemployed, until their fantasy job appears. Likely leaning on their parents in the meantime.

Is there a big parenting problem in today's society? Is it having a negative effect on the future generation(s)? Is it getting worse with time, as these coddled children have babies of their own? What do you think, is there a problem here or not?
 

Now, it appears that many (not all) modern day parents follow orders from their child. They do everything they can to please them, and deny them very little. They praise their children even when they fail at something, or do something bad. The schools, from what I hear, no longer give awards to students who perform exceptionally well, or submit the best project in class. Every child gets notice, whether they worked hard or not. Competition in games, etc. is discouraged to some degree.

I have to agree with this. I was given some choices as a child but not over everything. For example, if I needed new shoes Mum would check out the different styles and narrow the choice down to two pairs of well fitting and sturdy shoes. I could choose the pair I liked best at the very end. I didn't need awards for school or other competitions because Mum would always ask "Did you do you best?" and that was good enough for her, however when it came to school exams, if I scored 97% she would always want to know where the other 3% was lost.

With my own children I did not deny them the experience of disappointment. I think it is character building.
 
I agree Warri, and your mother sounds like a wise and caring lady.
 

My parents were what in today's terms would be called 'abusive', but what in the 1950's would have been fairly normal. The real problem was that my parents totally lacked the ability to argue a point. They could never see anyone else's point of view and their word was law. From an early age I could, and did, argue my case and their only response was to hit me. In the end, I just didn't care and did what I wanted. We ended up living in a sort of uneasy truce.

I never wanted to be like my parents. Sure, I've made mistakes, but I've given the children plenty of freedom while putting a 'safety net' under them. They've turned out well.
 
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My children and grandchildren seem to appreciate their upbringing, much more than I enjoyed mine!
 
I see modern day upbringing of children much improved over when I was growing up. I don't believe in spankings or hitting children now. I spanked mine, as did my parents but we were wrong in doing so, I'm glad this method of discipline has changed over the years, there are better disciplinary ways that do not damage people for life.
 
Well said Jackie, I completely agree with you.

I never got smacked as a child but my second eldest brother did and he was a bad 'un in lots of ways.

My children have turned out very well without the smacking.
 
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I was regularly thrashed as a child by my parents, I was always going where angels feared to thread! I spanked my children if the final warnings were ignored, but not hard. As for the grandchildren I will administer a light slap on the hand if they are really naughty. In the UK these days you are permitted to spank your children provided it is a light one and no mark results. It is forbidden for corporal punishment of any kind to be administered in schools thank goodness. I have witnessed absolute cruelty in my childhood when the head teacher at my primary school 4-11 in the 50s, beat kids without mercy, one he beat unconscious and got away with it!:mad:
 
CaptLightning, sounds like you've done right for your kids, that's great! I guess I've been lucky, my spankings were light and not very often, they sent me the message and improved my life IMO, didn't in any way destroy it. I'm completely against any parent who beats their children, it's so sad to hear of things like shaken baby syndrome also. Back when I was in Catholic grade school, the nuns did spank a few kids in another room with a paddle, I never witnessed it at all, and the parent's had no problem with it, as there was never an instance of abuse reported. Justme, it's outrageous that anyone would beat a child until he lost consciousness. :(
 
- Spanking vs little to no spanking today
- Lead-based paint on baby cribs vs lead-free paint today
- Cribs with railings that could be raised up an down vs today's baby cribs with fixed railings
- Travelling in vehicles without being buckled-in vs today's mandatory seatbelt laws/use
- Having ones mouth washed-out with soap vs today where such (I suspect) is unheard of
- Exposure to vinyl/plastic/rubber vs today's generation where some vinyl/plastic/rubber have been banned/discontinued in baby/child products
- Early toilet training vs today's more relaxed approach to potty training
- Extended freedom related to play vs today's more restrictive, play inside the boundaries of a while picket fence, under the watchful eye of a parent/caregiver
- Old-fashioned cloth diapers vs today's Pampers and Huggies generation
- Three square meals a day at the dinner table vs today's generation where meals are hit-and-miss, often spent without the entire family unit gathered as one
- Toy guns vs today's restrictive play measures
- Very little in the of battery-operated toys/things vs electronic/battery-operated everything today
- Standing-up to bullying/bullies vs today's authorities/laws standing up for bullied people
- Conservative, respectful dress vs today's... let it all hang-out and show generation
 
I agree with the OP. I also feel that had my parents not disciplined me as a child, I would have become an awful adult. These kids today take no responsibility for anything because there was never any recourse for their bad actions. Sitting someone in a corner is not going to teach them to not do it again. It is the same as letting them get away with it as far as I am concerned. I have seen witness to the fact that this makes for poor employees in the workplace. Plus they have no real sense of right and wrong and behave inappropriately and they do not understand why.
 
I agree with the OP. I also feel that had my parents not disciplined me as a child, I would have become an awful adult. These kids today take no responsibility for anything because there was never any recourse for their bad actions. Sitting someone in a corner is not going to teach them to not do it again. It is the same as letting them get away with it as far as I am concerned. I have seen witness to the fact that this makes for poor employees in the workplace. Plus they have no real sense of right and wrong and behave inappropriately and they do not understand why.
I have never felt like I may have turned out to be an awful adult had my mom not turned me over her knee every now and then, but I know in speaking for my own children's behaviour, a spanking went a long ways in adjusting their behaviour.
 
I feel that if my parents wouldn’t have disciplined the way they did, I would have been more of a well adjusted individual.
I feel the same way about mine. My parents never bothered to teach me anything, but yelled at me when I got something wrong. They never had time to encourage me, but had plenty of time to tell me how stupid I was. All I remember is being under so much stress I couldn't eat, couldn't enjoy anything, and spent a lot of time outside. That stress followed me throughout my life. Stress and shame. What a legacy. My oldest son's in-laws are like that. He stands up to them. Wish I could have done that.
 
Mine were similar but most of it was due to mental disorder but even acknowledging and understanding that doesn’t change the impact it had and still has on my life.

I wasted so much time proving myself worthy of acceptance right to the very end but I’ve looked into my moms eyes and their was definite regret of things said and done. My dad was another story altogether which I won’t share about.

I’ve read that we chose our parents before we are even born, to help deal with our karma and I believe this. Even if it isn’t true the belief helps me understand that all things happen for the highest good of all. We might not know or understand the reasons why at the time but apparently there are lessons to be learned.

My parents criticized a lot. They focussed on what was wrong instead of what was right which can be a horrible habit to get into. It’s scary getting older realizing I’ve got some of the same mental disorders they do and it’s tough. I’m very fortunate to have had and still have some very loving and supportive people in my life.
 
Using pain to teach your kids is a sure sign of ignorance.
It taught me quite a bit - that violence is OK if you're frustrated or angry and the person you're hitting is smaller than you.
 
This is the old 'spare the rod, spoil the child' debate. I don't believe there is a cookie cutter approach to child rearing. That little person you bring home from the hospital, is a unique being. What works with one, will have horrible results with another. And parents aren't identical, either. Unfortunately I think we all have to muddle through being a kid, and being a parent.
 
I think that too many parents these days want to be a friend to their child rather than their mentor, guide, touchstone, and "sayer-of-the-law." In so doing, they create households where their children are directly or indirectly running and controlling them. Too many parents think that if they discipline their children and hold them accountable to standards, they aren't being loving. Love does not consist of giving children exactly what they want immediately and all of the time. Such practices rather create spoiled monsters with feelings of entitlement who are unable to conform to the rules and expectations that bind much of adult life.
 
I never took to authority very well and was a first class rebel. While my parents did not hit me, they took away privileges which hurt more than spankings in my opinion. My father was always teaching me ethical behavior and my mom was high on personal moral responsibility. When they said no, the no stood regardless. I would try to buck the system, never worked and I lost out on some fun things I'd wanted to do. I brought my son up the same way and since we've stayed on the straight and narrow, my parents' methods worked. They had learned that from their parents as well.
 
I received a couple of well-deserved pops on the seat when I was little and that was all it took as I was a fast learner. IMO giving a young child a little discipline in an effort to protect them from greater harm still makes sense.

We were taught the basics of how to behave, evaluate risk, right from wrong, understand the consequences of our actions, etc...

Other than that we were pretty much on our own to do as we pleased within the limits set by our parents. We were out the door after breakfast and only appeared for meals, baths, and television before bed.

IMO it is better for kids to be independent have a few little responsibilities and learn little life lessons when the stakes are small. All of those little bumps, scrapes, successes, failures help to prepare them for life as an adult.

It seems like today many parents attempt to protect/shelter/shadow their children and provide for every need then when the child reaches 18 the parents are flabbergasted that the child can't seem to launch off the couch or out of the basement into the real world.
 
We were taught the basics of how to behave, evaluate risk, right from wrong, understand the consequences of our actions, etc...

I've seen huge differences in how individuals were brought up- and what you said there is one of the biggest examples.
That's the way it was for me and most individuals I knew when I was a kid- values, standards, rules, etc.

While I saw very little of an opposite approach in the past, I'm in the middle of it these days- seniors who were permitted to do anything they wanted as long as they didn't 'bother,' 'embarrass,' or 'inconvenience' the parents/adults- never developed a sense of responsibility, right from wrong, or concern for the consequences of their behaviors to other people.
So with that kind of influence, it shouldn't be surprising when the younger generations are obnoxious little creeps.
 


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