US Army sergeant sentenced to 25 years for shooting protester

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And apparently Texas Governor Abbott plans to pardon him right away...

I don't know the facts of the case, but in reading the article it seems highly politicized. Don't understand the politics either.

What concerns me is that I believe, perhaps naively, that matter such as this should have nothing to do with politics. Just be decided on the law and the facts... I am unhappy that this doesn't seem the case here...

If we can keep this discussion to how we assure fair application of the law maybe we can avoid the no politics thing.

US Army sergeant sentenced to 25 years for shooting protester
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65548977
 

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Tish said:
I have no idea how to keep this thread from becoming political with the Republicans saying he acted in self-defense.
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Maybe not, but rather than agreeing or disagreeing with them I am disappointed that Republicans have a different take on this than Democrats... guilt should have nothing to do with politics...
Paladin1950 said:
The governor of Texas is Greg Abbott. I'm sure some Texans wish it was Bud Abbott. :)(y)
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Thanks for that I made the correction.
 
Apparently, some people believe that it's within your rights to shoot someone five times and kill that person, who is legally carrying an AR-15 style rifle, if you believe there's a chance that person might aim it at you.
 
SeniorBen said:
Apparently, some people believe that it's within your rights to shoot someone five times and kill that person, who is legally carrying an AR-15 style rifle, if you believe there's a chance that person might aim it at you.
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I suppose it would be if there was an immanent threat that the person was going to use it. Proving that, or the prosecution proving it wasn't the case is always going to be hard. In this case it seems to me the jury heard a lot more than we, or the media, did on the subject and decided the guy was guilty. I would hope that was without any political bias, but I don't know.
 
We all witnessed on TV coverage of the illegal acts that BLM committed by burning police cars and buildings, randomly shooting at people while killing some and many other horrific acts. It could be the Sgt. was in fear if his life once the AK-47 was presented. What would I have done in that situation? I sure wasn’t going to wait to see wait the person holding the AK was planning on doing.

There were a lot of stories of post Vietnam soldiers shooting people because they were still living the war. Any threat to some of those men was put to rest very quickly. We all heard stories about a crazy ex-Vietnam soldier shooting someone. That went on for at least maybe 5 or more years.

Being in the service for so many years, it’s always pounded into your head to destroy the target or enemy when the danger is in front of you. This isn’t the first time something like this has happened. I’m not going to write the whole story out, but read this one about an Army doctor who I have met and talked to on 2 occasions. If anyone in this great world of ours is innocent, this man is. Capt. MacDonald


There were a lot of stories of post Vietnam soldiers shooting people because they were still living the war. Any threat to some of those men was put to rest very quickly. We all heard stories about a crazy ex-Vietnam soldier shooting someone. That went on for at least maybe 5 or more years.

The first time I met Capt. MacDonald, he was in Fort Bragg. I went there to talk to one of the men in one of my specialized platoons. He was being held and again interrogated by lawyers. I had just become a 1st Lt. a few days prior to being handed orders to go to Ft. Bragg to talk to a Marine that was being held on charges of vehicular homicide and we were trying to get him moved to Camp Lejeune, but that’s another story. The interrogators had left MacDonald alone while they went into another office. I told him that I recognized him from the papers and TV and then I saluted him because I knew he was a Captain and I was a 1st Lt. He also wore the emblem of a Green Beret, which back in those days was treated as a God, even though he was a doctor assigned to a Special Ops unit.

He looked like he hadn’t slept in 5 days. Before I left to go into the courtroom with my Marine, I told the Capt. if there was anything I could do for him, I would like to help because I believed in him. He asked me if I would call his parents and tell them he is doing well. He wrote their number down on a clip of paper. I told him he didn’t look like he was doing well. He told me way back then and before he had his first hearing that they got me and I will never again be free even if the good Lord himself came to heaven and testified for me. Those words just stunned me and I didn’t know what to say. But, so far, he has been correct. Privately, I have always thought to myself that this case isn’t just being adjudicated by by the military. Someone else has their hands in on this deal. I really think that justice has not and will not be served. I am going to visit him again this summer after I get moved and settled in.

Sometimes justice is blind.
 
Here's a summary of what happened...

Perry had made multiple posts and direct messages on social media expressing his desire to shoot Black Lives Matter protesters, writing in messages, "I might have to kill a few people on my way to work, they are rioting outside my apartment complex," and "I might go to Dallas to shoot looters."

July 25, 2020, Daniel Perry, a then-30-year old United States Army sergeant, had been working his Uber shift when he encountered a protest against police brutality that was blocking the road. Perry originally stopped and honked his car horn at the protesters, but later ran a red light and drove his car into the crowd.

Garrett Foster, a 28-year old United States Air Force veteran who was legally open carrying an AK-47 walked up to Perry in an attempt to tell him to stop driving into the crowd. After he walked up to Perry's vehicle, Perry shot and killed Foster. Perry claimed self-defense and claimed that Foster had pointed his weapon at him, but eyewitnesses contradicted this account.

When Perry was interviewed by police about what happened before the shooting and how Foster held his gun, Perry said: "I believe he was going to aim it at me … I didn’t want to give him a chance to aim at me, you know."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Garrett_Foster
 
What if neither had been carrying weapons? Think they would have beaten each other to death - -with their fists?

I suppose that one of them could have expired but highly unlikely. I suppose to some, the macho bull-s **t of "carrying made it all worthwhile.
 
Lee said:
Perry was approached by Foster who was carrying an AK-47 style weapon. Then other protesters start banging on his car.

He did not deserve this sentence.
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SeniorBen said:
Here's a summary of what happened...

Perry had made multiple posts and direct messages on social media expressing his desire to shoot Black Lives Matter protesters, writing in messages, "I might have to kill a few people on my way to work, they are rioting outside my apartment complex," and "I might go to Dallas to shoot looters."

July 25, 2020, Daniel Perry, a then-30-year old United States Army sergeant, had been working his Uber shift when he encountered a protest against police brutality that was blocking the road. Perry originally stopped and honked his car horn at the protesters, but later ran a red light and drove his car into the crowd.

Garrett Foster, a 28-year old United States Air Force veteran who was legally open carrying an AK-47 walked up to Perry in an attempt to tell him to stop driving into the crowd. After he walked up to Perry's vehicle, Perry shot and killed Foster. Perry claimed self-defense and claimed that Foster had pointed his weapon at him, but eyewitnesses contradicted this account.

When Perry was interviewed by police about what happened before the shooting and how Foster held his gun, Perry said: "I believe he was going to aim it at me … I didn’t want to give him a chance to aim at me, you know."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Garrett_Foster
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That's why we need to have a judicial system we can trust, one that can in an unbiased way look carefully at the facts. I this case it seems to me the jury had a much better chance of making the right decision than any of us here...
 
some parents refuse to buy guns for their kids ?? why because they will pretend to kill other kids with them?
 

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