We have Big Pharma, Are we getting Big Suppla?

RadishRose said:
I wonder about this sometimes. Somewhat related are OTC aids aimed for the young. They are coming for our children!

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"Support"? What does that even mean, really?
Ok kids, shut up and get to sleep now!
Drugging kids to sleep bothers me.

4 and 5 year olds are changing their own diapers! "Hey Mommy Wow. I'm a big kid now".
Sells more product; what an increase that idea was!

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If I were going to give my child anything to help them sleep, it would be camomile tea. It has been used for hundreds of years as a remedy for upset stomachs and a sleep aid. I'd let it cool down to warm, maybe even make it iced tea. Plus, I would not want to teach them that they get a gummy every night to fall asleep. That's not good training, IMO.

I've taken melatonin before and it left me feeling tired in the morning, so I don't want to give that to a kid. They have to be awake and ready to learn at school.
 

January said:
The photo showed pull ups.

Many 4 - 5 year olds are not dry at night and wear pull ups - easy for them to get on and off themselves and to take down like underpants if they do wake to go to the toilet.

And yes, they come in larger sizes for older or larger children who are bed wetters - or children with special needs.

Not sure what anyone's issue is with these.
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My issue isn't with the small percent of children who are bed-wetters or special needs, it's with normalizing that children in that age would need pull-ups. A sales tool that's detrimental to most children's development.

I understand the importance of pull-ups for older kids because I had a child who was a bed-wetter. However, my other two were not. Had I put them in pull-ups until they were 5 or older they wouldn't have been as motivated to get to the toilet when the urge hit during the night. Instead, they trained completely, day and night, by the time they were 3-1/2.

It's the marketing I object to, not the availability of the product itself.
 
January said:
This is standard advice in Australia as it is a factor in cot deaths.

Your friends are following reputable recomendations, not just something they 'somehow absorbed from somewhere'

Babies are recomended to use sleeping bags or thick bedsuits that they cannot get over their head like they could a blanket.
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It's standard advice in the US, too. Crib deaths are down dramatically since parents have been told to place infants face up in a crib containing nothing beyond a mattress and sheet. No bumpers, stuffed toys or blankets. Mattresses have two sides, one is firmer for babies 9 months and under, the other is a little softer 9+ months.

Apparently many SIDS deaths were due to suffocations from bedding.
 

Big Pharma and Big Suppla are increasingly the same. Over the past ten years or so, pharmaceutical companies have been buying up neutraceutical companies. That's part of why you're seeing the aggressive marketing of supplements. If you'll check the brands, most of the aggressively marketed supplements are now pharmaceutical owned including the Nature Made children's melatonin gummies in the OP. Along with marketing, Big Pharma is also greatly inflating prices of the supplements they buy out. I've had several favorites shoot up in price due to this.
 
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Nathan said:
This goes for the childhood sugar sales as well, for a lifetime of obesity and metabolic disorders.
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This one bugs the heck out of me. I can only say so much, but I don't care for the amount of sugar my grandson and his peers are being fed. It boggles my mind.
 
StarSong said:
My issue isn't with the small percent of children who are bed-wetters or special needs, it's with normalizing that children in that age would need pull-ups. A sales tool that's detrimental to most children's development.

I understand the importance of pull-ups for older kids because I had a child who was a bed-wetter. However, my other two were not. Had I put them in pull-ups until they were 5 or older they wouldn't have been as motivated to get to the toilet when the urge hit during the night. Instead, they trained completely, day and night, by the time they were 3-1/2.

It's the marketing I object to, not the availability of the product itself.
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Being dry at night is developmental not something that can be trained.

so some kids are dry at night younger than others, regardless of what parents do. It isnt a small percentage - many 4 yr olds are not yet dry at night

I would rather child wore pull ups than had wet bed or wore baby type diapers. It is normal for kids that age.
 
JBR said:
Well, in my post mentioning the blanket topic, the child is two+ years old.
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in you original post you just said "very young daughter'

But I guess if they followed advice and didnt use blankets up until 12 months and then child slept well with whatever they were doing ,they kept doing it

Or they wanted t o be extra cautious and extend it longer than 12 months.

Cant see any problem with that
 
VintageBetter said:
If I were going to give my child anything to help them sleep, it would be camomile tea. It has been used for hundreds of years as a remedy for upset stomachs and a sleep aid. I'd let it cool down to warm, maybe even make it iced tea. Plus, I would not want to teach them that they get a gummy every night to fall asleep. That's not good training, IMO.

I've taken melatonin before and it left me feeling tired in the morning, so I don't want to give that to a kid. They have to be awake and ready to learn at school.
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Melatonin is a hormone, not really a sleeping aid though many use it as such. It won't even work if the room isn't completely dark.
 
JBR said:
Well, in my post mentioning the blanket topic, the child is two+ years old.
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If they are old enough to climb, I think they are old enough to be safe with a blanket. That makes me sad that parents are getting these ideas that blankets are killers.

Some 2-year-olds can climb up on the kitchen counters. I'd be a lot more worried about that than a blanket.
 
VintageBetter said:
If they are old enough to climb, I think they are old enough to be safe with a blanket. That makes me sad that parents are getting these ideas that blankets are killers.

Some 2-year-olds can climb up on the kitchen counters. I'd be a lot more worried about that than a blanket.
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But nobody said blankets are killers for 2 year olds nor that there are not other risks for 2 yr olds.

Fact remains that standard advice is not to have blankets on babies.

No problem if anyone wants to continue without blankets longer than that.
 
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January said:
But nobody said blankets are killers for 2 year olds nor that there are not other risks for 2 yr olds.

Fact remains that standard advice is not to have blankets on babies.

No problem if anyone wants to continue without blankets longer than that.
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Exactly. The risk is for babies too small to raise their heads or otherwise provide themselves breathing space. My GS had the most adorable sleep sacks to wear over his PJs or swaddle blanket.

He was snug and warm with no chance of either kicking the blankets off or getting tangled up in them. They come in summer and winter weights, long sleeve, sleeveless, you name it.

A quick search of "baby sleep sack" shows myriad choices.
 

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