We need a new word for vaccine

CarolfromTX said:
I’ve been vaccinated against all kinds of things—small pox, polio, measles, mumps, DPT, etc. I’m never going to get those things. I’ve also been vaccinated against Covid, and for whatever reason, that vaccine is not always effective. Personally, I think it’s because of the ever changing nature of the disease. But whatever. So if it doesn’t neccessarily prevent the disease, but provides some help, then it’s not a true vaccine. So what is it? We need a new word. Vaccine-ish? Semi-vaccine? Demi-vaccine?

Personally, I think we should demote it to just Covid shot. Because, like flu shots, it doesn’t always work as well as we wish. But calling it a vaccine is off the mark, in my opinion.
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how about "monied hoax"
 

CarolfromTX said:
I’ve been vaccinated against all kinds of things—small pox, polio, measles, mumps, DPT, etc. I’m never going to get those things. I’ve also been vaccinated against Covid, and for whatever reason, that vaccine is not always effective. Personally, I think it’s because of the ever changing nature of the disease. But whatever. So if it doesn’t neccessarily prevent the disease, but provides some help, then it’s not a true vaccine. So what is it? We need a new word. Vaccine-ish? Semi-vaccine? Demi-vaccine?

Personally, I think we should demote it to just Covid shot. Because, like flu shots, it doesn’t always work as well as we wish. But calling it a vaccine is off the mark, in my opinion.
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hoax
 
Calling it a vaccine implies that it protects.
Convincing people that it protects is what sells it - along with fear.
Calling it anything else would really hurt sales.
 

Skyking said:
Well, maybe "safer" as they wouldn't be visiting their parents in a Hospital waiting room or ICU. Also, after reviewing the data as posted by Senior Ben on page 1 while many get the disease after vaccination, most of the vaccinated do not. Omicron being the only hard nut to crack. So... them's the facts!
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Yes, vaccinated people can get covid, BUT many don't. Not accompanying an adult pre or post-admission to the hospital is also a safer choice for kids. I'd rather be in a room full of vaccinated people then a room of unvaccinated people whether I was a kid or not.
 
SeniorBen said:
The Pfizer vaccine is 44% effective at preventing infection and 72% effective at preventing severe disease. The Moderna vaccine is slightly more efficacious. So while the vaccines aren't perfect, they greatly decrease the risk of deleterious consequences.

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https://www.healthdata.org/covid/covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-summary
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Mmmmm! Interesting! I guess this explains what I have heard a few times, "He or she got the vaccine but died anyway." Sometimes life is a crap shot! Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose! Happy Gambling!

I got the 2 originals vaccines. Then I got 2 boosters. Now, I'm going to get my annual flu shot and my 3rd booster on the same day next month. Perhaps I should look in the mirror at night, shut off the lights and see if I glow like a walking chemical bomb?
 
Packerjohn said:
Mmmmm! Interesting! I guess this explains what I have heard a few times, "He or she got the vaccine but died anyway." Sometimes life is a crap shot! Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose! Happy Gambling!

I got the 2 originals vaccines. Then I got 2 boosters. Now, I'm going to get my annual flu shot and my 3rd booster on the same day next month. Perhaps I should look in the mirror at night, shut off the lights and see if I glow like a walking chemical bomb?
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I know a fellow here in our development that got a vaccine booster, flu shot and his first of 2 shingles injections and died 2 days later. Last year right after Thanksgiving he decided to get all 3 shots in one day. The pharmacist wouldn’t give him the shingles shot after the vaccine booster and flu shot, so he went to a CVS and got the shingles shot. His wife said he woke up about 4 in the morning complaining of being really cold and sick to his stomach with a headache. By 6, she was calling for an ambulance. He went into a coma later in the day and never came out of it.
 
When my daughters were very young and went for a flu shot, I said...

"We're going for a Floony-Lu-Lu today."

I tried to make the name fun and bouncy so they wouldn't get scared. To this day as adults, they still call getting any needle a Floony-Lu-Lu. It makes me giggle that they remembered my silly saying all those years ago.
 
We will soon be in the time frame where the flu spikes. Then, too, as this Covid mutates, and more people are gathering indoors. we may see another uptick in that illness. More than ever, Caution should be observed by everyone.
 
Skyking said:
Yes, vaccinated people can get covid, BUT many don't. Not accompanying an adult pre or post-admission to the hospital is also a safer choice for kids. I'd rather be in a room full of vaccinated people then a room of unvaccinated people whether I was a kid or not.
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Many unvaccinated people don't get covid either. :unsure:
 
chic said:
Many unvaccinated people don't get covid either.....
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chic said:
Yes, but the numbers are nNOT even close to equal. BTW, who'd you put yourself and your child in a room with? Vaccinated or unvaccinated people?:unsure:
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Page break COVID-19 case rates per 100,000 population from September 04 to October 01, 2022 Age group Age-specific rate per 100,000 in unvaccinated individuals Age-specific rate per 100,000 in individuals who completed the primary series Impact 12-34 579.1 307.5 1.9 times higher in unvaccinated 35-64 562.5 354.6 1.6 times higher in unvaccinated 65+ 852.9 462.9 1.8 times higher in unvaccinated • Case rates are calculated using population data for the specified age group COVID-19 Hospitalizations COVID-19 hospitalization rates among 12-34 year-old individuals are 3.1 times higher in the unvaccinated population than in the population of those who have completed the primary series

1.9 times greater means times greater means 90% ... 1.8 means 80% greater etc.
 
Skyking said:
Page break COVID-19 case rates per 100,000 population from September 04 to October 01, 2022 Age group Age-specific rate per 100,000 in unvaccinated individuals Age-specific rate per 100,000 in individuals who completed the primary series Impact 12-34 579.1 307.5 1.9 times higher in unvaccinated 35-64 562.5 354.6 1.6 times higher in unvaccinated 65+ 852.9 462.9 1.8 times higher in unvaccinated • Case rates are calculated using population data for the specified age group COVID-19 Hospitalizations COVID-19 hospitalization rates among 12-34 year-old individuals are 3.1 times higher in the unvaccinated population than in the population of those who have completed the primary series

1.9 times greater means times greater means 90% ... 1.8 means 80% greater etc.
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Don M. said:
We will soon be in the time frame where the flu spikes. Then, too, as this Covid mutates, and more people are gathering indoors. we may see another uptick in that illness. More than ever, Caution should be observed by everyone.
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I'm safe from people gathering. I eat garlic & onions; they won't come near me.
 

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