We're Losing Doctors Right and Left Here from this Area

This thread is parroting a political ad I just saw, nearly word for word.

You aren't fooling anyone trying to get away with breaking the rules here.
 

This thread is parroting a political ad I just saw, nearly word for word.

You aren't fooling anyone trying to get away with breaking the rules here.
I have no clue what you are talking about although I don’t watch political ads as I fast forward through them. If my mom was alive she would be 104 and this is what she always said. If they made a ad using her wise words I would be surprised.
 

I don't blame doctors for staying within the law, but I wonder why all the churches who teach that life begins at conception don't go a little further back. What about when God slew Onan for "spilling his seed on the ground." We never hear about the amount of seed wasting that goes on, particularly these days with the internet's entertainment possibilities. Any one of those seeds could have been Beethoven!
 
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Study after study shows that 90% of the women sleep around with 10% of the men, and typically they're the abusive ones and ones who get "bored" quickly and dump them.

Don't try to make promiscuity a men's issue. It isn't.
Google search says: "In most countries surveyed, men reported having more s*xual partners than women. For example, in the United States, the median woman has had three s*xual partners in her lifetime, while the median man has had five."

Where do you get this stuff, Dilettante? Do Spanky and Alfalfa have a newsletter?
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I had my second RF Ablation treatment on my back about 6 weeks ago. I was told by a Neurosurgeon there isn't anymore that he can do for me. I could show you my MRI, but if you would look at it, I have narrowing at the bottom of the spine where a cluster of nerves are bunched together. I forget what he called it, but he said he could try to operate on it and put spacers in there to try to give the nerves some room to spread out, but no guarantees. When I told him I may be willing to risk it, he said, "On second thought, I don't want to perform the surgery."

So, he kind of left me hung out to dry. I guess I may try the Cleveland Clinic or Johns Hopkins. Hopkins is closer, about 50 miles away, but it's a 3 month wait after the consultation, which is another 2 months. I just remember, the surgeon called it a nerve impingement. But, it's actually a cluster of nerves.
Nerve impingement, yes, caused by spinal stenosis; narrowing of the spinal canal.

Getting more than 3 RFAs in your lifetime isn't recommended because there's a risk of permanent nerve damage as well as the higher risk that the nerves will repair themselves by either sprouting new, smaller nerves, creating a nerve bundle or "knot", or by sprouting new nerves that create a new nerve pathway. Either repair will increase your problems....specifically, your pain.

The doc who decided not to do the spacer surgery probably did you a favor. Maybe he thinks he hasn't had enough hands-on experience, or he had a bad experience or a poor outcome...or multiple poor outcomes. Or maybe his director or his facility only approves "living" spacers, where they take bone from your ribs to make the spacers, or they either don't have access to viable cadaver bone or they won't use it due to a previous lawsuit or a violation of some sort. (Chain-of-custody violations are fairly common because they're either too ambiguous or too confusing.)

I've had 3 RFAs, and the results were progressively worse...first one was freaking awesome, last one was a huge disappointment. I've had a number of surgeries, and the major one is presenting new problems now, 8 years later.

I do have a suggestion, and it's specifically for stenosis and degeneration of your spine's natural "spacers"

...an inversion table.

Lying on an inversion table set at a 60- to 45-degree angle for 10 to 15 minutes relieves my back pain for 2 to 5 hours. Honestly, I feel like a million bucks for at least 2 hours, usually more.

Your head is at the low end (probly needless to say) and it plus the trunk of your body are the total weight of the traction your spine will get, so it's never too much traction for your spine to handle and it's extremely unlikely to cause damage. The traction will decompress your spine, opening up those spaces, as well as your spinal canal, allowing spinal fluid to flow more freely, and providing your spinal discs with more of the nutrients the fluid carries.

I gave my inversion table away when I moved into a tiny apartment. But I got very similar relief by hanging from a chin-up bar with the back of my head (but not my shoulders) resting on the floor. After moving into a house, I ordered a new inversion table. The newer ones take up less space, plus they fold up. If the old one did that, I'd have kept it.
(that said, the tension-type chin-up bar was over $200 cheaper)
 
I read the second of Dilettante's links. It's very long.

It begins with the fact I quoted; men 5 partners, women 3. Then it goes on to study the top 1 percent of the most promiscuous people ever, and there, lost in some hard to read graphs, we find a few women who are bigger horn-dogs than some men. That does nothing to change the average; men-5, women-3.

The most interesting thing about the article is that it shows just how hard Dilettante is willing work to find anti-women stuff.
 
I got very similar relief by hanging from a chin-up bar with the back of my head (but not my shoulders) resting on the floor.
I hung a couple of rings from the bottom garage rafters a few years ago and periodically hang from them with my hands.
The great thing about dead hangs is being able to have the rings at my highest reach, then to gradually unweight my body
by slowly bending my knees, eventually unweighting completely. If I wanted to unweight completely every time then I could
hang the rings just a bit higher than my reach. The rings can be hung at either height that's optimal to obtain the desired weight.
 
Yep, my OB-GYN--whom I really liked, she was great--just left the area. And I got a letter from her practice--she was in with some other OB-GYNs--saying that since the need in our community for OB-GYN services has grown so much that they're going to have to limit the services they provide. They will no longer do preventative check-ups or breast exams; they'll do pap smears only. We have to see our primary care providers for what they'll no longer do.

Welp, being a breast cancer survivor, I'm gonna have to call and see how I'm going to get my continuing care and check-ups.


most of this thread is about medical services in US - which I dont know much about.

Just on this point though - do women need t o see a OB-GYN for pap smears?

these are routinely done in general practices here, ie your primary care provider, and frequently by the practice nurse, ( where I work, that is me) you don't even need to see a Dr
 
Are they moving to having more Nurse Practitioners instead of Doctors?
That's what I've seen in U.S. over the last 10 to 15 years.
Nurse practitioners and Physician assistants can do a lot. Which may give the MD's more time for more advanced care. I don't doubt this is trending. But there still seems to be a shortage and many times an MD is what the patient needs.
 
I don't blame doctors for staying within the law, but I wonder why all the churches who teach that life begins at conception don't go a little further back. What about when God slew Onan for "spilling his seed on the ground." We never hear about the amount of seed wasting that goes on, particularly these days with the internet's entertainment possibilities. Any one of those seeds could have been Beethoven!
 
I hung a couple of rings from the bottom garage rafters a few years ago and periodically hang from them with my hands.
The great thing about dead hangs is being able to have the rings at my highest reach, then to gradually unweight my body
by slowly bending my knees, eventually unweighting completely. If I wanted to unweight completely every time then I could
hang the rings just a bit higher than my reach. The rings can be hung at either height that's optimal to obtain the desired weight.
My problems are in my lower back, so lying on an inversion table at abt 45% works best for me. I've also used a 45% slant board, head lower than my hips, but it's not nearly as good.
 
I skimmed these - please point specifically to where/how they support your contention that 90% of women sleep around with 10% of the men, and the rest of your earlier post (below):
Study after study shows that 90% of the women sleep around with 10% of the men, and typically they're the abusive ones and ones who get "bored" quickly and dump them.

Don't try to make promiscuity a men's issue. It isn't.
 
This is the most ignorant and ridiculous thing I’ve read in a long time. Promiscuity is definitely more prevalent in men.

As my mother used to say if men got pregnant abortion would be a god given right and there would be an abortion clinic on every corner along with the bars and churches.
Takes two to tango.
 
I think promiscuity is no longer a word that should be in our vocabulary, whether for men or women. I think it can be used by psychologists describing certain mental states, though. Promiscuity, no such thing.
Yes. Particularly because it was rarely used to describe men (who were simply sowing wild oats) but to describe women who were doing something shameful. Just as they used to describe any woman who enjoyed it as a nymphomaniac and didn't seem to have a comparable word for men.
 
Nerve impingement, yes, caused by spinal stenosis; narrowing of the spinal canal.

Getting more than 3 RFAs in your lifetime isn't recommended because there's a risk of permanent nerve damage as well as the higher risk that the nerves will repair themselves by either sprouting new, smaller nerves, creating a nerve bundle or "knot", or by sprouting new nerves that create a new nerve pathway. Either repair will increase your problems....specifically, your pain.

The doc who decided not to do the spacer surgery probably did you a favor. Maybe he thinks he hasn't had enough hands-on experience, or he had a bad experience or a poor outcome...or multiple poor outcomes. Or maybe his director or his facility only approves "living" spacers, where they take bone from your ribs to make the spacers, or they either don't have access to viable cadaver bone or they won't use it due to a previous lawsuit or a violation of some sort. (Chain-of-custody violations are fairly common because they're either too ambiguous or too confusing.)

I've had 3 RFAs, and the results were progressively worse...first one was freaking awesome, last one was a huge disappointment. I've had a number of surgeries, and the major one is presenting new problems now, 8 years later.

I do have a suggestion, and it's specifically for stenosis and degeneration of your spine's natural "spacers"

...an inversion table.

Lying on an inversion table set at a 60- to 45-degree angle for 10 to 15 minutes relieves my back pain for 2 to 5 hours. Honestly, I feel like a million bucks for at least 2 hours, usually more.

Your head is at the low end (probly needless to say) and it plus the trunk of your body are the total weight of the traction your spine will get, so it's never too much traction for your spine to handle and it's extremely unlikely to cause damage. The traction will decompress your spine, opening up those spaces, as well as your spinal canal, allowing spinal fluid to flow more freely, and providing your spinal discs with more of the nutrients the fluid carries.

I gave my inversion table away when I moved into a tiny apartment. But I got very similar relief by hanging from a chin-up bar with the back of my head (but not my shoulders) resting on the floor. After moving into a house, I ordered a new inversion table. The newer ones take up less space, plus they fold up. If the old one did that, I'd have kept it.
(that said, the tension-type chin-up bar was over $200 cheaper)
You pretty much hit the nail on the head, but I’m not looking for a few hours of relief, I would really like a permanent fix. Someone somewhere has to have a fix. I don’t care if I have to go to Europe to find help.

If you look at my latest MRI. You can see the spine as in goes down the canal and at the last few inches of the canal, the group of nerves are impinged. According to the Neurosurgeon, this is what’s causing the pain. Putting spacers on the sides of the impingement may or may not give me relief, but he said it’s too risky of a surgery with no guarantees.
 
You pretty much hit the nail on the head, but I’m not looking for a few hours of relief, I would really like a permanent fix. Someone somewhere has to have a fix. I don’t care if I have to go to Europe to find help.

If you look at my latest MRI. You can see the spine as in goes down the canal and at the last few inches of the canal, the group of nerves are impinged. According to the Neurosurgeon, this is what’s causing the pain. Putting spacers on the sides of the impingement may or may not give me relief, but he said it’s too risky of a surgery with no guarantees.
I have a rather similar problem. It's a physical defect...every foramen of every vertebrae has one nerve root. I have two nerve roots in the foramen of L4, and one leans against the other, causing relentless pain.

They can't remove or destroy either one because there is no way to trace exactly what each one does. For example, which one controls my legs? If one is destroyed, will I be a paraplegic? Would I be paralyzed on one side?

This might be type of the risk your doc is worried about....nerve damage beyond your spine.

This twinned nerve root was discovered during a major spinal surgery I had in 2016, when I was 61. I survived the surgery just fine, and I'm a pack-a-day smoker (I did not tell my surgeon). The surgery was to straighten a fairly severe spinal curvature. The surgeon implanted titanium rods and anchors.

That was pretty great until a year ago, when my spine began collapsing at the points above and below the rods. Your doc might be worried about a similar type of risk.

I totally sympathize, 911, and I've discovered over the years that spine specialists have a lot to learn. I encourage you to do some research. Like, my award-winning (literally) spinal surgeon told me he'd never ever heard of a twinned nerve root before. I did a little online research when I got home and found out it is rare, but other people do have it. There were even images.
 
@911

Do you think your back problems were caused by your job? I have a nurse friend who had to have many back surgeries, mainly due to lifting large patients. There seem to be so many extra problems these days caring for our heavier population. Hospitals need bigger beds and wheelchairs and far more expensive things like MRI machines, and the worst is the toll on the medical professionals.
 


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