What are your views on tipping? Would you be willing to pay extra for a meals, if there was no tipping?

You are absolutely right. In any case, the customer cannot be responsible for knowing who or why the service was bad. Was the food over-cooked? Had the waitress's husband run off with another woman and she was just told about it over the telephone? Maybe. We, as customers, can only judge the situation from our own perspective. We cannot dash around the restaurant asking the cook, the waitress, and the busboy if they are happy today - and then give them a hefty tip based upon their personal situation, ignoring the fact that our own wives may have left us that very morning. If you don't feel like leaving a tip for any reason, then don't. It is what it is.
Then don’t eat out, although on a personal note, my husband would celebrate if I left after the week we’ve had. Anyway waiters and waitresses don't get paid enough to put up with a customer bad mood, but they are forced to do so, or lose their jobs.

You can squeeze a Buffalo nickel until it shits (an old USA saying describing cheap people and not referring in a personal way to anyone on the forum). but then, IMO, your hands are covered in poop. This saying would describe my brother, amd his grown son, perfectly. If cheaper people exist, I have not met them.
 

This isn't about what the restaurant ran out of. It's about a waitress that acted as though she had the right to make a customer feel bad about trying to make a 2nd choice in a hurry. All that waitress had to do is say that she would give us a few minutes to decide, leave and do something else, and then come back. I'm a 20%+ tipper and she would have gotten a good tip from me if she hadn't stood there sighing loudly while an elderly women was looking at the menu and being made to feel foolish.
Or the people with the elderly woman could have said to the waitress, “why don’t you check back in a few minutes”. Which is what most reasonable people say in these circumstances and what I have said many times because, oh gee, I AM an elderly woman. 😂
 
I think why I don't like tipping is the arbitrariness of the thing. I keep thinking of my ex-sister-in-law, who purposely would get all bent out of shape for some supposed slight, and not leave a tip. In the 40 years I knew her, she never left a tip. It got to the point I would not eat with her in a restaurant. To me, it's an excuse to get a cheaper meal at the expense of the server. And if there really is a reason to not tip, a word to the manager seems the better way to fix the problem. that's just me.
 

I think why I don't like tipping is the arbitrariness of the thing. I keep thinking of my ex-sister-in-law, who purposely would get all bent out of shape for some supposed slight, and not leave a tip. In the 40 years I knew her, she never left a tip. It got to the point I would not eat with her in a restaurant. To me, it's an excuse to get a cheaper meal at the expense of the server. And if there really is a reason to not tip, a word to the manager seems the better way to fix the problem. that's just me.
I'm with you 100%. I had an uncle just like that. He once ordered a glass of Michelob beer but when the waiter brought it my uncle held it up to the light and claimed it wasn't Michelob at all. He made such a big deal about it - in a very loud voice- that the whole evening was ruined and I couldn't wait to get out of there. He should have married your sister-in-law and together they would have been famous. :)
 
When I first got married and started raising a family, money was ight and I figured the waitress made as much as I did so I was a bit stingy with tipping. We didn't eat out often and I never was one to follow the rules So I just tipped a maximum of 10%, usually less.

Now that I can afford it I guess I'm making up for my past. The last time I went to sonic for a hamburger the bill came to about $12. I gave the carhop a twenty and she was surprised whe I said keep the change.
A supersonic tip for a sonic hamburger.
 
A happy wait-staff story…

my kids and I were coming home to GA from Tennessee (long long drive). Long story short, we ended up arriving in Macon about 1030 pm, starving, and one place that was still open was an Applebee’s.

The six of us walked in about 20 min before they were supposed to close.

wait staff smiled, made us feel welcome, no “hurry up and finish so we can go home” attitude. They not only got a great tip, I sent a complimentary letter to the manager
 
Yes when tip time came she said I need a 10.00 tip. My girlfriend that was paying the bill paid it. We never went back.
That specific of a tip, saying she NEEDED ten dollars, meant, IMO, 10 dollars. Had nothing to do with her service, I applaud your GF. She understood the word NEED.
 
That specific of a tip, saying she NEEDED ten dollars, meant, IMO, 10 dollars. Had nothing to do with her service, I applaud your GF. She understood the word NEED.
My girlfriend lived in this IHOP in the past. Went about everyday to eat. She had friends that works there. This waitress didn't like her that much because of her Bi-polar.
 
We were never much on eating out, but the expected tip scheme in our country of Canada, has turned both hubby and I off going out to restaurants, and quite frankly, anything restaurants make, I can make, only what I make is more than likely more fresh, has been prepared with more care, and is better (health wise and taste wise), and just knowing the substandard state of so many restaurants when it comes to hygiene and cleanliness, both hubby and I agree we can do without.
 
Yes when tip time came she said I need a 10.00 tip. My girlfriend that was paying the bill paid it. We never went back.
Outrageous! And your girlfriend gave it to her? Did you scold her about it? You must have discussed it between yourselves afterward. Let's turn back the clock .... would you (she) do it again?
 
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If it is a restaurant I haven't been to then I check the prices of meals online. If the prices are reasonable, I will go. I tip up to15% depending on the service. I guess if there was no tipping it would depend on whether I would pay that price for a meal.
 

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