What causes societal collapse?

Irwin said:
Add to that, the threat of economic collapse from our enormous debt, and it could be a perfect storm leading to civil war.
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The National Debt is this nations greatest long Term issue....and seems to be getting the Least amount of concern and action. This massive debt is the primary reason why banking accounts earn little or no interest. If the Fed were to set the Fed Funds rates up to levels in past years, say 4%, or more, virtually the entire annual government revenues would be required to pay the Interest on that debt. This nation has run up massive debt before....WWII, for example....but back in the late 40's and 50's the government raised taxes such that the debt was paid off.
At some point, this debt is going to be unsustainable, and the government will probably wind up devaluing the dollar, similar to what nations such as Greece and Argentina have done. The result of such an action would make make consumer commodities unaffordable to most people, and drive the nations poverty rates to levels never seen before.
 

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Don M. said:
The divisions within our society are growing more with every passing year. The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. The Middle Class continues to decline as production jobs are either sent overseas, or turned over to robotics and automation. And, the population continues to increase, putting future generations at even greater risk. I don't give it more than a few decades before civil unrest takes over.
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I think it's greed at both an individual level and a societal one. The greed manifests itself in different ways in different societies, but I think that's the core cause of the collapses.
 

Pepper said:
How do you and Gary define decadence? I don't want the dictionary meaning, thanks, I'd love to hear your own opinions.
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Decadence is a word I've heard used to describe the West for most of my life, certainly by the leaders of communist countries from the 1960s/1970s back then, and I certainly had no idea what they meant in those days.
I suppose we can now probably hazard a guess as to what they thought the word decadent meant, such as perhaps folks who put money and their own wealth first, or trivial stuff above the good of others, certainly above society as a whole, and maybe in a sense "smallmindedness " too(?)
 
Pepper said:
How do you and Gary define decadence? I don't want the dictionary meaning, thanks, I'd love to hear your own opinions.
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It always reminds me of cake, the cake was decadent. 🤪 🍷 - that's my world, it's a very nice place to live, very nice indeed.
 

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