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In October 2006, I was called to an Amish school building. The school was taken hostage by a gunman. Before I got there, he had sent all of the boys out of the building, only keeping the young girls hostage. The teacher escaped and made it to a farmhouse not far away. There she had the owner call 911. Ten girls were shot, killing 5 on site and another died later for a total of 6 deceased little young females.

Not long after I arrived and grabbed my rifle, 3 other Troopers were on site. I thought we should make entry, but the Sergeant in charge thought it best to allow the hostage negotiator to attempt to get the hostage taker to throw down his weapon and come out. The next thing we heard were gunshots inside the one-room school. Now the Sergeant yells, “GO, GO, GO!”
As I attempted to make entry, I found the door was boarded, so we used the ram and kicked in the door.

There, we found that 10 young females had been shot and 5 were dead with another dying later. The shooter had killed himself. We wasted too much time trying to talk the shooter out. I was very disappointed in how the situation was handled and felt guilt for a long time. We should have made entry, even with using the ram. If the shooter had fired his weapon through the door, we could have used a shield for protection. I never felt that we did enough to try to save the little girls.

As I helped to load the girls into the hearse’s, I apologized to them and said a prayer. I felt so much guilt.
 
911 said:
In October 2006, I was called to an Amish school building. The school was taken hostage by a gunman. Before I got there, he had sent all of the boys out of the building, only keeping the young girls hostage. The teacher escaped and made it to a farmhouse not far away. There she had the owner call 911. Ten girls were shot, killing 5 on site and another died later for a total of 6 deceased little young females.
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I remember that story, what an awful thing to have happen and to be a witness of.
 
911 said:
In October 2006, I was called to an Amish school building. The school was taken hostage by a gunman. Before I got there, he had sent all of the boys out of the building, only keeping the young girls hostage. The teacher escaped and made it to a farmhouse not far away. There she had the owner call 911. Ten girls were shot, killing 5 on site and another died later for a total of 6 deceased little young females.

Not long after I arrived and grabbed my rifle, 3 other Troopers were on site. I thought we should make entry, but the Sergeant in charge thought it best to allow the hostage negotiator to attempt to get the hostage taker to throw down his weapon and come out. The next thing we heard were gunshots inside the one-room school. Now the Sergeant yells, “GO, GO, GO!”
As I attempted to make entry, I found the door was boarded, so we used the ram and kicked in the door.

There, we found that 10 young females had been shot and 5 were dead with another dying later. The shooter had killed himself. We wasted too much time trying to talk the shooter out. I was very disappointed in how the situation was handled and felt guilt for a long time. We should have made entry, even with using the ram. If the shooter had fired his weapon through the door, we could have used a shield for protection. I never felt that we did enough to try to save the little girls.

As I helped to load the girls into the hearse’s, I apologized to them and said a prayer. I felt so much guilt.
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I remember this tragedy and I recall you talking about it a long while back, Always felt bad for you.
 
911 said:
In October 2006, I was called to an Amish school building. The school was taken hostage by a gunman. Before I got there, he had sent all of the boys out of the building, only keeping the young girls hostage. The teacher escaped and made it to a farmhouse not far away. There she had the owner call 911. Ten girls were shot, killing 5 on site and another died later for a total of 6 deceased little young females.

Not long after I arrived and grabbed my rifle, 3 other Troopers were on site. I thought we should make entry, but the Sergeant in charge thought it best to allow the hostage negotiator to attempt to get the hostage taker to throw down his weapon and come out. The next thing we heard were gunshots inside the one-room school. Now the Sergeant yells, “GO, GO, GO!”
As I attempted to make entry, I found the door was boarded, so we used the ram and kicked in the door.

There, we found that 10 young females had been shot and 5 were dead with another dying later. The shooter had killed himself. We wasted too much time trying to talk the shooter out. I was very disappointed in how the situation was handled and felt guilt for a long time. We should have made entry, even with using the ram. If the shooter had fired his weapon through the door, we could have used a shield for protection. I never felt that we did enough to try to save the little girls.

As I helped to load the girls into the hearse’s, I apologized to them and said a prayer. I felt so much guilt.
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I remember when that happened. I'll never forget it, just from having read about it. I'm so sorry you had to witness it all.

Never feel guilty about a decision made in an instant that could just as easily gone the other way (you men forcing your way in immediately while he, just as quickly, shot everyone -- then always wishing you had tried to negotiate.)

I also remember, and will never forget, that the families of the young victims forgave the murderer. Forgiveness being very big in the Amish community as it should be with all Christians. I'm not one who sees the hand of God in every single thing, but in this tragedy, I can easily believe God wanted the world to see their example of forgiveness.
 
911 said:
In October 2006, I was called to an Amish school building. The school was taken hostage by a gunman. Before I got there, he had sent all of the boys out of the building, only keeping the young girls hostage. The teacher escaped and made it to a farmhouse not far away. There she had the owner call 911. Ten girls were shot, killing 5 on site and another died later for a total of 6 deceased little young females.

Not long after I arrived and grabbed my rifle, 3 other Troopers were on site. I thought we should make entry, but the Sergeant in charge thought it best to allow the hostage negotiator to attempt to get the hostage taker to throw down his weapon and come out. The next thing we heard were gunshots inside the one-room school. Now the Sergeant yells, “GO, GO, GO!”
As I attempted to make entry, I found the door was boarded, so we used the ram and kicked in the door.

There, we found that 10 young females had been shot and 5 were dead with another dying later. The shooter had killed himself. We wasted too much time trying to talk the shooter out. I was very disappointed in how the situation was handled and felt guilt for a long time. We should have made entry, even with using the ram. If the shooter had fired his weapon through the door, we could have used a shield for protection. I never felt that we did enough to try to save the little girls.

As I helped to load the girls into the hearse’s, I apologized to them and said a prayer. I felt so much guilt.
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I remember that incident well, and cried as I read your firsthand experience.
 
katlupe said:
Me too. When my family moved to FL in 1962, the schools were segregated. Not only the schools but restaurants too. Coming from NY at 10 years old I could not understand why it was like that.
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We moved to Alabama in 1965, from Germany. My dad was in the USAF. We went to DOD schools, which were not segregated.
When I was in 7th grade, I had to go to a civilian school (DOD only educated kids through grade 6). That was the year the schools were desegregated.

What a mess! Every class room had whites on one side and blacks on the other, with empty rows in the middle. I was like, okay, what do I do now, and what is wrong with these people! I sat in an empty row in the middle.

Boy did I hate going to civilian schools! The f'ing teacher locked me and another girl in a classroom during a long morning break. You will have to speculate about that. It still burns me up thinking about it. It was for our safety.

To this day, I have never been in a segregated place (except, IMO, most churches). I have never seen signs that have to do with segregating water fountains or bathrooms, for example. But what happened in that school was culture shock for me.
 
hollydolly said:
here fortunately the majority of cars are manual.. I think because our roads are narrow generally speaking, hilly in many places , a lot of stop start in heavy traffic etc, and a manual is much easier to control in those situations

if like the US and canada we had hundreds of miles of open motorway I think auto's would be much more popular ..

Auto's are gaining ground tho ..my daughter.. and my ex husband both drive automatics.. his a Maserati.. and hers a RAV4...and the young who are driving big SUV's are choosing autos... ( I mean they need their free gear hand for their phones don't they ) ?:cautious:.. ..but they're not for me.. I like to have the power that a manual gives over an automatic,
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Manuals are a lot more fun to drive.
 
I can talk in other voices and even those who know me very well don't realize it is me. This has come in handy for practical jokes.

I once talked to my husband for 45 minutes (on the phone). I pretended to be an old lady who wanted to buy books from him using her B&N gift card. His was an independent book shop. It took him ages to get me off the phone, and all the time he was terribly polite. The kids were so impressed.

Husband came home from work and was barely in the door before he started tell us all about that "crazy old lady". He was so shocked when he found out it was me. The kids were dying laughing.

Another time I got all bill-paying stopped at the international company I worked at. I pretended to the the soon to be ex-wife of the owner. I called our AP clerk and warned her not to make any payments because I was getting the company in the divorce. I would fire her if she did not obey me, and then sue her.

Many people were freaked out. It wasn't until a secretary told me that she was going to call the big VP out of a meeting. I couldn't talk her out of it, so I had to tell her the truth. I reported to that big VP.

I don't do this very much any more. Perfect opportunities don't come along very often.
 
911 said:
In October 2006, I was called to an Amish school building. The school was taken hostage by a gunman. Before I got there, he had sent all of the boys out of the building, only keeping the young girls hostage. The teacher escaped and made it to a farmhouse not far away. There she had the owner call 911. Ten girls were shot, killing 5 on site and another died later for a total of 6 deceased little young females.

Not long after I arrived and grabbed my rifle, 3 other Troopers were on site. I thought we should make entry, but the Sergeant in charge thought it best to allow the hostage negotiator to attempt to get the hostage taker to throw down his weapon and come out. The next thing we heard were gunshots inside the one-room school. Now the Sergeant yells, “GO, GO, GO!”
As I attempted to make entry, I found the door was boarded, so we used the ram and kicked in the door.

There, we found that 10 young females had been shot and 5 were dead with another dying later. The shooter had killed himself. We wasted too much time trying to talk the shooter out. I was very disappointed in how the situation was handled and felt guilt for a long time. We should have made entry, even with using the ram. If the shooter had fired his weapon through the door, we could have used a shield for protection. I never felt that we did enough to try to save the little girls.

As I helped to load the girls into the hearse’s, I apologized to them and said a prayer. I felt so much guilt.
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Oh my gosh, @911, I would have been a sniveling, sobbing mess on the floor if I walked into that situation. 😭😭😭
 
WheatenLover said:
We moved to Alabama in 1965, from Germany. My dad was in the USAF. We went to DOD schools, which were not segregated.
When I was in 7th grade, I had to go to a civilian school (DOD only educated kids through grade 6). That was the year the schools were desegregated.

What a mess! Every class room had whites on one side and blacks on the other, with empty rows in the middle. I was like, okay, what do I do now, and what is wrong with these people! I sat in an empty row in the middle.

Boy did I hate going to civilian schools! The f'ing teacher locked me and another girl in a classroom during a long morning break. You will have to speculate about that. It still burns me up thinking about it. It was for our safety.

To this day, I have never been in a segregated place (except, IMO, most churches). I have never seen signs that have to do with segregating water fountains or bathrooms, for example. But what happened in that school was culture shock for me.
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I've only ever seen segregation on tv or online ... and always either in the USA...or South Africa... its just unbelievable..
 
CinnamonSugar said:
Oh my gosh, @911, I would have been a sniveling, sobbing mess on the floor if I walked into that situation. 😭😭😭
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If I would have been allowed inside that room, he wouldn’t have had to kill himself.

Here is what happened just a week, well, 8 days later. A man killed his wife in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. I got there about 20 minutes too late. After he shot her, he went outside and sat on the top step and had his pistol beside him. I had him follow the arrest procedure we have suspects do, lie on the ground face down and hands behind their back. At that point, I moved in on him and removed the weapon and cuffed him.

Two years later, he was found guilty and sentencing was set for the following month. Meanwhile, the convicted murderer now requested the judge give him the death penalty. The prosecution objected to his request, but the judge said that he would honor his request, if he would give up his rights for all appeals. He agreed. The judge then sentenced him to death.

I later saw the judge in the cafeteria at the Law Center and asked him why he honored so and so’s request for the death penalty. He told me that the state is highly unlikely to execute him, so this way, he will sit in his cell for 23 hours a day, except for the 1-hour he is allotted for going to the yard and his 2 showers a week. I thought that’s what he deserved. Sitting in a cell is worse than dying to many prisoners.
 

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