What is this new RSV vaccine?

Well of course, everybody makes their own decisions, and that's what freedom is.

But, if people spent less time getting annual, bi-annual, seasonal or quarterly vaccines and more time eating better, exercising, there would be no weakened immune systems, fragility or age associated weakness.
Sigh... Weakened immune systems, fragility or age associated weakness are due to myriad factors, not all of which cam be mitigated by healthier eating and increased exercise.

Few, including the medical community at large, would argue against healthy eating, regular exercise, a good sleep schedule and maintaining a healthy weight improving the odds of avoiding some debilitating conditions and early death.

That said, suggesting these are universal cure-alls or preventatives against all possible health conditions or viruses goes counter to thousands of years of human history when people ate natural foods, physically labored, and nevertheless mostly died young. Average lifespan was 35-40 for most of human history, with a very high infant mortality rate.

Good food and plenty of exercise won't stop polio from debilitating children, even those with robust immune systems. The Spanish Flu most killed healthy young adults. Smallpox wiped out many "New World" tribes of indigenous people to near extinction despite eating and exercise habits in an unpolluted environment being close to ideal. Boubonic plague killed nearly 50% of Europe's population in the mid-1300s.

Perhaps it's partly due to the miracles of modern medicine that the octogenarians in your gym are alive and healthy enough to work out. If they were born in the US, they undoubtedly were vaccinated against smallpox, tetanus, diptheria, pertussis and polio.

The data is clear that the odds of a longer, healthier life can be improved by rebuffing junk foods and sedentary habits. Also by having regular checkups and being vaccinated.
 

Sigh... Weakened immune systems, fragility or age associated weakness are due to myriad factors, not all of which cam be mitigated by healthier eating and increased exercise.

Few, including the medical community at large, would argue against healthy eating, regular exercise, a good sleep schedule and maintaining a healthy weight improving the odds of avoiding some debilitating conditions and early death.

That said, suggesting these are universal cure-alls or preventatives against all possible health conditions or viruses goes counter to thousands of years of human history when people ate natural foods, physically labored, and nevertheless mostly died young. Average lifespan was 35-40 for most of human history, with a very high infant mortality rate.

Good food and plenty of exercise won't stop polio from debilitating children, even those with robust immune systems. The Spanish Flu most killed healthy young adults. Smallpox wiped out many "New World" tribes of indigenous people to near extinction despite eating and exercise habits in an unpolluted environment being close to ideal. Boubonic plague killed nearly 50% of Europe's population in the mid-1300s.

Perhaps it's partly due to the miracles of modern medicine that the octogenarians in your gym are alive and healthy enough to work out. If they were born in the US, they undoubtedly were vaccinated against smallpox, tetanus, diptheria, pertussis and polio.

The data is clear that the odds of a longer, healthier life can be improved by rebuffing junk foods and sedentary habits. Also by having regular checkups and being vaccinated.
Yes, the data is clear. I'm just afraid that the data is corrupted. We must all do our best to make wise choices, especially when making choices for others.
 
Sigh... Weakened immune systems, fragility or age associated weakness are due to myriad factors, not all of which cam be mitigated by healthier eating and increased exercise.

Few, including the medical community at large, would argue against healthy eating, regular exercise, a good sleep schedule and maintaining a healthy weight improving the odds of avoiding some debilitating conditions and early death.

That said, suggesting these are universal cure-alls or preventatives against all possible health conditions or viruses goes counter to thousands of years of human history when people ate natural foods, physically labored, and nevertheless mostly died young. Average lifespan was 35-40 for most of human history, with a very high infant mortality rate.

Good food and plenty of exercise won't stop polio from debilitating children, even those with robust immune systems. The Spanish Flu most killed healthy young adults. Smallpox wiped out many "New World" tribes of indigenous people to near extinction despite eating and exercise habits in an unpolluted environment being close to ideal. Boubonic plague killed nearly 50% of Europe's population in the mid-1300s.

Perhaps it's partly due to the miracles of modern medicine that the octogenarians in your gym are alive and healthy enough to work out. If they were born in the US, they undoubtedly were vaccinated against smallpox, tetanus, diptheria, pertussis and polio.

The data is clear that the odds of a longer, healthier life can be improved by rebuffing junk foods and sedentary habits. Also by having regular checkups and being vaccinated.
First, I never said exercise, eating right, taking vitamins and having a good mental outlook is or was a universal cure-all. Nothing is of course a cure-all for anything. But, not a single doctor, researcher or scientist would argue that if you did those mentioned things you would live longer, healthier and most likely have a much much better later stages of life. I also know that none of them would say living on meds is the way.

Second, the average life span was never in the 30-40 range. That is a myth that has been proven wrong many times. Many kings and important people (religious figures, royal members, mummies, Aztec kings and warriors, and so on) (they had proper buriel chambers/tombs/crypts etc casue of their status) have been found to been a lot older.

In Mexico city in the Centro there is a Museum with a live dig ongoing. We spent a few months there in 2023 and visited the Museum and site. The bones found were not 30-40 years old by any means. More like late 60's, mid 70's even a skeleton they dated older.

This whole myth of died at 35 is so full of garbage. I mean think about it? Why would people die at 30-40? Human genetics, DNA research have never revealed anything to make one believe that at some point we all died so young.

The bubonic Plague never killed 50 percent of Europe. Another myth proved wrong. Scientists have long known that the causative agent of the bubonic plague, a bacterium called Yersinia pestis, was spread by rat fleas, and have even traced the evolution of the pathogen across millennia.
The Plague killed more in some countries and less in others.

The 14th-century bubonic plague pandemic may not have had the same devastating widespread effects in all parts of Europe as previously thought, according to a new study.

Historians have long held that the “Black Death” wreaked havoc across Europe, west Asia and north Africa between 1346 and 1352, killing up to half of Europe’s population at the time, transforming religious and political structures, and precipitating major cultural and economic transformations such as the Renaissance.

However, a new study, published on Thursday in the journal Nature Ecology, has suggested that the Black Death’s mortality in Europe may not have been so universal. Basically some countries were spared and may not have experienced it all. While others may have been devastated. In fact in the 3 studies I am looking at currently, it looks to be about 27-30 percent of Europe was affected. Not 50.

In another study-
"We discovered that there were indeed parts of Europe where the human landscape contracted dramatically after the Black Death arrived. This was the case, for instance, in southern Sweden, central Italy and Greece."

"In other regions, like Catalonia or Czechia, however, there was no discernible decrease in human pressure on the landscape. In others yet, such as Poland, the Baltic countries and central Spain, labor-intensive cultivation even increased, as colonization and agricultural expansion continued uninterrupted throughout the late Middle Ages."

This means the Black Death's mortality was neither universal nor universally catastrophic.

The Spanish Flu was another hoax on the people. Historians aren’t actually sure where the 1918 flu strain began, but the first recorded cases were at a U.S. Army camp in Kansas in March 1918. Funny it was in the US where the first vaccines were given to soldiers going over seas to fight in WW1. It was a vaccine made from a flu virus that was found in horses.

Theres no cover up on this. Its there to find if you want to look. I ended up spreading around Spain and southern Europe and killing a lot of people. But why not in the US did it spread. Why not? Well cause the first cases were at a military base and isolated, and the soldiers were sent over seas before they got sick and spread the pathogen.

Here is info from the FOIA request;
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The ‘Spanish Flu’ of 1918, did not actually originate in Spain. Spain was simply the first country to report on it.
In preparation for WW1, a massive military vaccination experiment involving numerous prior developed vaccines took place in Fort Riley, Kansas- where the first “Spanish Flu” case was reported.
The fledgling pharmaceutical industry, sponsored by the ‘Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research’, had something they never had before – a large supply of human test subjects. Supplied by the U.S. military’s first draft, the test pool of subjects ballooned to over 6 million men.

Autopsies after the war proved that the 1918 flu was NOT a ‘flu’ at all. It was caused by random dosages of an experimental ‘bacterial meningitis vaccine’, which to this day, mimics flu-like symptoms.
Fearing that soldiers coming home would spread diseases to their families, the U.S. government pushed the largest vaccine ‘fear’ campaign in history. They used the human population as a research and development lab to field test experimental vaccines.

Tens of millions of civilians died in the same manner as did the soldiers.
Instead of stopping the vaccines, doctors intensified them, calling it the great “Spanish Flu of 1918”. As a result, only the vaccinated ended up dying."

Now after a really long post...Sorry about that by the way, One question I have to ask everyone that thinks like the post you made above. If our immune system was designed to fight infection, disease, fight and record bacteria, parasite and fungi invaders (the only things that can make us ill by the way), how in the h e double L did humans survive?

I mean, we are cleaner than ever, wash more, clean our clothes, clean our food and water, clean our cooking utensils, factories, hospitals, work places, houses and on and on and on...we have better medicine, better doctors (questionable), heck even our animals are cleaner and eat better food.

And we now have higher obesity, sickness, med use, suicide, illness, dis-ease, cancers, diabetes, heart issues, intestinal issues...and I could go on, than ever before. So without all of the advancements mentioned in the paragraph above this one, how did we not all die off?

It's all malarky. If you knew how much of our lives are a lie you would be astonished. Both our education system and medical system were completely and utterly revamped in the 1930's, by the one same family-the Rockafellers. Look it up. My wife has a medical book from 1890's and the one from 1940's is completely different. Did you know they had cures for most diseases in 1890's? Where are these cures today? Not good for the bottom line of the Trillion dollar medical industry.

My grandmother was a Nurse in the 60's and all the nurses knew about Renee Caisse in Ontario. The famous court case and the offers made to her for her 'cure'. A US gov offered more than a million dollars for her cure. She turned it down because she knew it would be suppressed. FYI she had hundred of thousands of patients she cures that wanted to testify on her behalf. Her cure? A native herbal concoction made from trees, roots, weeds etc. Burdock root, slippery elm, indian rhubard and sheep sorrel. A free natural cure that cured terminal people simply by making a tea from nature.

Anyway I have gone on far too long. Once again sorry to anyone stuck or still reading this 15 chapter book! Lol.

"When death comes to find you, may it find you alive".
 

One question I have to ask everyone that thinks like the post you made above. If our immune system was designed to fight infection, disease, fight and record bacteria, parasite and fungi invaders (the only things that can make us ill by the way), how in the h e double L did humans survive?


as pointed out before - they didnt all survive.


False premise as is most of your post.


Could you please start your own thread instead of taking over this one which was about RSV vaccine.
 
Tazx is on topic, to be wary of the toxic clot shot "vaccinations" - as posted by the OP.

People who are working for and getting paid by big pharma are the ones posting false off topic claims.

I bet they don't even believe 90% of the stuff that they post, and I doubt that they've gotten any of the toxic clot shots.
 
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First, I never said exercise, eating right, taking vitamins and having a good mental outlook is or was a universal cure-all.
What you said was:
"But, if people spent less time getting annual, bi-annual, seasonal or quarterly vaccines and more time eating better, exercising, there would be no weakened immune systems, fragility or age associated weakness."

Sure sounds like you were touting those as universal cure-alls.

No idea why you would think that the Spanish Flu was "was caused by random dosages of an experimental ‘bacterial meningitis vaccine’, which to this day, mimics flu-like symptoms." (Yes, I know Spain was incorrectly thought to be the country of origin, but since it is nevertheless still colloquially known as Spanish Flu, it's the term I used).

According to the Cleveland Clinic:
Spanish Flu: What Is It, Causes, Symptoms & Pandemic

"What is the Spanish flu?​

The Spanish flu was the name given to a form of influenza (flu) caused by an H1N1 virus that started in some type of bird (avian origin). The Spanish flu was a pandemic — a new influenza A virus that spread easily and infected people throughout the world. Because the virus was new, very few people, if any, had some immunity to the disease.
From 1918 to 1919, the Spanish flu infected an estimated 500 million people globally. This amounted to about 33% of the world’s population at the time. In addition, the Spanish flu killed about 50 million people. About 675,000 of the deaths were in the U.S.

Just like the flu we get today, the Spanish flu was particularly harmful to infants under age 5 and people over the age of 65. One thing that was different about the Spanish flu was that it also killed a large number of healthy adults, aged 20 to 40 years."
 
Look…tazx has spent some time educating himself about this. His original post had some assumptions i believe. But the bottom line about vaccines should be about RISK. What are your odds? I avoid doctors and therefore vaccines i do not think i need. I will not be taking the pneumonia, flu or rsv. My risk is low…and my immune system good. My choice.
How do you know that your immune system is good?
 
I was very curious about your statement that the Spanish Flu wasn't influenza at all, because I've read the gold standard book about that flu ("The Great Influenza: The story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History" by John M. Barry) and never heard nor read anything near what you'd said.

Did a fact check and in addition to other sources with very similar reports, I found this on Reuters:
https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...-did-not-cause-the-1918-spanis-idUSL1N2M62BG/

"An article entitled “The 1918 “Spanish Flu”: only the vaccinated died” (archived here ) has been shared over 61,119 times on Facebook since its publication May 29, 2020 (according to CrowdTangle data). It continues to be shared on social media as of April 9, 2021 ( here , here ). Some Facebook users have shared a screenshot of the headline of the article, as can be seen here ."

Also this:

Autopsy study leaves severity of fall 1918 pandemic wave a mystery
"Sep 20, 2011 (CIDRAP News) – A study of preserved lung sections from 68 US soldiers who died in the 1918 influenza pandemic shows that cases from the spring and fall pandemic waves looked much the same and that there is no evidence of viral mutations that could readily explain why the fall wave was so lethal.

The study, led by Jeffery Taubenberger of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, showed the same pattern of damage to the respiratory tract as seen in severe flu cases in later pandemics, including 2009, and in severe seasonal flu. The authors also found evidence of secondary bacterial pneumonia—a common complication in severe flu cases today—in all 68 cases. The report was published online by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."

Fakebook = fake news.
 
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What you said was:
"But, if people spent less time getting annual, bi-annual, seasonal or quarterly vaccines and more time eating better, exercising, there would be no weakened immune systems, fragility or age associated weakness."

Sure sounds like you were touting those as universal cure-alls.

Healthy people who poison themselves are no longer healthy at that point.

Here's a 1918 study that shows the Spanish Flu was not contagious, and therefore was not caused by a virus.
 
Tazx is on topic, to be wary of the toxic clot shot "vaccinations" - as posted by the OP.

People who are working for and getting paid by big pharma are the ones posting false off topic claims.

I bet they don't even believe 90% of the stuff that they post, and I doubt that they've gotten any of the toxic clot shots.

I disagree - the topic was RSV vaccine and it has now been hijacked into general anti vaccine and semi related topics - false or not, all off topic.
Stat your own threads if that is what you want to discuss.

I certainly do believe what I post and I certainly do take vaccines myself - your bet would be lost.
 
Today at my Wellness appointment with my doctor, amongst
a few other things talked over, was a chat about the RSV
vaccine, and whether or not I would have it today. At this
time and for now, I have declined having the vaccine.
 
What you said was:
"But, if people spent less time getting annual, bi-annual, seasonal or quarterly vaccines and more time eating better, exercising, there would be no weakened immune systems, fragility or age associated weakness."

Sure sounds like you were touting those as universal cure-alls.

No idea why you would think that the Spanish Flu was "was caused by random dosages of an experimental ‘bacterial meningitis vaccine’, which to this day, mimics flu-like symptoms." (Yes, I know Spain was incorrectly thought to be the country of origin, but since it is nevertheless still colloquially known as Spanish Flu, it's the term I used).

According to the Cleveland Clinic:
Spanish Flu: What Is It, Causes, Symptoms & Pandemic

"What is the Spanish flu?​

The Spanish flu was the name given to a form of influenza (flu) caused by an H1N1 virus that started in some type of bird (avian origin). The Spanish flu was a pandemic — a new influenza A virus that spread easily and infected people throughout the world. Because the virus was new, very few people, if any, had some immunity to the disease.
From 1918 to 1919, the Spanish flu infected an estimated 500 million people globally. This amounted to about 33% of the world’s population at the time. In addition, the Spanish flu killed about 50 million people. About 675,000 of the deaths were in the U.S.

Just like the flu we get today, the Spanish flu was particularly harmful to infants under age 5 and people over the age of 65. One thing that was different about the Spanish flu was that it also killed a large number of healthy adults, aged 20 to 40 years."
Well take something someone said, spin it how you want to, and then you can be happy! Anyone with any level of normalcy would understand what I meant by that. If you think I meant "do this and you will live healthy and happy forever" then you are either very unintelligent, or just trying to be that person that HAS to prove someone wrong. Either way, I'm fine with that. You do you! Lol.

Now, the information you found from Cleveland Clinic...I learned long ago never to trust info from anywhere but govt FOIA documents, European medical documents (until covid) and govts that do not/does not rule their people into insanity.

FOIA documents in US and FOI docs in Can are docs/info/court findings/sensitive info, that you have to legally request otherwise they are hidden from the public. Now, tell me why you would hide something from the public? National security, safety? Lol. Give me a break. It's because the truth is being hidden from you no matter what the topic.

That is where I got my info from. From somewhere that the govt is trying to keep it hidden.

Anything that the govt hides is more likely 99 percent truth vs anything that is allowed to be "the answer" to the question you are looking for.

The EU Medical library used to be really good. For instance, here where we live they promote vitamins and minerals. They allow the vitamins that both Can and US ban or are trying to ban such as B17, NAC etc.

For instance, where we lived during the recent unpleasantness, they promoted vitamins and minerals, exercise, sun and mental health well being during the scamdemic. They never had vax passes, no one lost their job cause they wouldn't take it, and no businesses or very few closed down. There was recommendations not rules. Yes they told people to take precautions like everywhere else but no draconian constitutional violations!

See I trust a country more when they act like that towards their people, and allows you to make your OWN personal choices, as per the consitution. Not a country that dictates to you like a child with fear porn 24-7, tickets, arrests and illegal draconian measures.

So, you may respond if you wish, but it is pointless. You have your truth that you believe, and I have mine. I live and act in the way I see fit for me to have a happy long life useing what I believe works, and the research that I believe is closer to the real truth. You do the same in the way you want. Then we can all be happy.

But just don't come at me with exaggerated lines about the meaning of what I said. And dont even think I give any credence to any info gathered from govt sponsored reseach (CC) or google over real data in medical books or info hidden from our daily lives.

Have a nice day!
 
Avoid all vaccines if possible. Let your own immune system work. It is stronger on it's own.
The more your body reacts, and overcomes issue's, the better off you are. Medicine has come a long way but the pharmaceutical companies are out of control and a lot of what they offer is destructive in the long term.
Exactly! If no one can see the pharma gods have gone bonkers, then there is no help for those people! I mean just the fact that the side effects for most of the pharma meds are worse than the symptoms is insane. Yet people line up like children getting candy each month!
 
this is about RSV vaccine - not about perceived side effects of any other meds or national security or any of your other tangents

Start your own thread if you want to discuss those things.
 
this is about RSV vaccine - not about perceived side effects of any other meds or national security or any of your other tangents

Start your own thread if you want to discuss those things.
OK...back on track just for you.

RSV vaccine ingredients were posted in an earlier post by myself. Took it straight from the vaccine insert from the vaccine makers website. None, I repeat none of it from any other source or from myself. All from the vaccine manufacturer!

The ingredients are not safe, in fact toxic and unneeded in any vaccine. Look them up to see for yourself how bad those ingredients are.

Is that post compliant?
 
any vaccine ingredients are readily available

I disagree with you - the ingredients are not toxic - but your post is on topic about RSV vaccine.
 
Toxic or not, I would argue that the diseases they prevent are more toxic.
 


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