What would you do to those who are cruel to animals?

Aunt Marg said:
IMO, Gandhi, is the only one who's blind.
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Its okay to think that and the man himself admitted to huge failings in himself as a husband as a young man, attempting to be far too controlling, but he moved on to help lead millions out of oppressive subjugation, whilst promoting none violence, admiring the USA, and if I'd read more of his autobiography I could tell you how he came to chuck away concerns for his own selfish interests.

As a Hindu he'd have reveered cows perhaps, so maybe he'd agree with you up until you start to promulgate violence, (though you don't, or can't really mean it, unless you're prepared to do the gouging out of eyes yourself!).
 

SeaBreeze said:
Well, not sure what your point really is, I don't have to bear in mind anything about fox hunting in Germany. Also, I don't care about his girl who wants to put all the dogs in the world on an island and bomb them. If this person exists, she was a lunatic at her young age and the only good thing is she allegedly grew out of it. She is caring for people, but what does she still feel about killing all dogs? :unsure: I stand by my opinion, those who abuse defenseless animals should have exactly the same thing done to them. That would discourage animal abuse and torture, no doubt about it.
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Its very easy to start chucking out comments about someone being a lunatic, and as far as I can remember there are lots of fairy stories about children doing nasty things aren't there, but as said above, if you're prepared to do the gouging out of eyes, or other means of torture you wish to see done yourself, perhaps you're on a winner, (whilst well on the way to l***cy I'd say, taking the whole world with you).

Stopping cruelty to animals provides many options, and some claim keeping any animal/dog as a pet is a form of animal cruelty, and I've seen large dogs kept indoors all day whilst their owners are out at work, looking pretty stressed, so there is progress to be made, I'd agree.
 
grahamg said:
Its very easy to start chucking out comments about someone being a lunatic, and as far as I can remember there are lots of fairy stories about children doing nasty things aren't there, but as said above, if you're prepared to do the gouging out of eyes, or other means of torture you wish to see done yourself, perhaps you're on a winner, (whilst well on the way to l***cy I'd say, taking the whole world with you).

Stopping cruelty to animals provides many options, and some claim keeping any animal/dog as a pet is a form of animal cruelty, and I've seen large dogs kept indoors all day whilst their owners are out at work, looking pretty stressed, so there is progress to be made, I'd agree.
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Okay grahamg, the girl who wants to put all dogs in the world on an island and bomb them is not a lunatic. :D You have your own opinions and we obviously disagree. ;)
 
What I'd like to see done to such people isn't postable on a public forum.

Could we dial back the graphic discussions of cruelty, including what happened to that poor terrier in the early post? We're supposed to be a friendly forum, not posting things that give others nightmares.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Okay grahamg, the girl who wants to put all dogs in the world on an island and bomb them is not a lunatic. :D You have your own opinions and we obviously disagree. ;)
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She was no lunatic, and having just put forward the idea of torturing human beings as a way forward, well, need I say more, (you'd have lived the girl if you'd have met her, and those daft ideas had something to do with her mother, though she wasn't mad before you jump to that conclusion!).

We don't disagree that animals should be taken care of well, and cherished as pets when you are lucky enough to have one, I think I posted pictures or video of my naughty border collie Des playing ball once outside on the farm, such an affectionate handful, (though quite a nightmare anywhere near a road etc., and now on a farm in Yorkshire).
 
I hope I wouldn't hurt a butterfly, oh wait a minute I might spray a caterpillar eating my cabbages, or a green fly.

A friend of mine who is a bank manager, used to talk about his love of animals, especially when his families cat was killed, but woebetide you if you exceeded your credit limit by a few pounds or dollars, (a slight failing of mine, and his caring for animals didn't extended to mice entering his property, made worse perhaps by the loss of the cat).

If you've ever tried to report a case of animal cruelty in the UK you may run up against a few unexpected obstacles, as I did once, (ironically my dog Des caused neighbours to call the RSPCA to check him out when he first arrived on the farm, as he did bark quite a lot when be first arrived, but the fact he couldn't stop wagging his tail and being friendly when the inspector arrived, seemed to satisfy them all was well).

However, maybe I was suspected of making a false report, or being malicious or something, but they refused to attend or investigate the report of animal cruelty I made, claiming they were short of officers to deal with it. A local government appointed veterinary surgeon refused to investigate the matter as well, and told me I'd get nowhere trying to persue it, (not what you expect, oh and the police were not interested either!).
 
I don't know about any other states or places penalties but here in Ohio we have had Goddard's Law. Goddard's Law was founded by Dick Goddard our beloved departed this year Meteorologist. Dick loved animals and had adoption shows on tv for years. The law here says that cruelty to animals is a felony with consequences. In my opinion the penalty still is not enough for what is done to animals.

Personally, what I would do to someone who abuses animals is report them to the authorities. What I'd really like to do you don't want to know!

The article is from 2016:
https://shelterme.tv/news/new-law-in-ohio-makes-animal-cruelty-a-felony/
 
I once heard a noise outside my front door,and opened the door to find two boys with their arms outstretched just about to grab my cat by the tail. I went ballistic. I have never before or since seen the look of terror on those boys faces. They ran back down my path, looking back at me as though I was a demon from hell.
That gives an indication at how I feel about animal cruelty.
To answer the question, those who commit the worse crimes (which includes any form of animal cruelty) should be used in medical experiments instead of the innocent little creatures which are used now.
I read that Ian Brady used to enjoy torturing animals when he was younger, so it appears to be true that some people are just cruel by nature.
 
I saw a tv show years ago where a gang of teenage boys captured a puppy and set him on fire in a park in AZ. It was a gang initiation thing. The pup survived and was adopted by the veterinary assistant who helped treat him. He required several surgeries and his tail had to be amputated. The boys were not caught. This is how bad some people can be. Punishment for such? I still like my flesing knife. :eek:
 
Thank you all for the responses. I feel that I should have posed the question in a different way to avoid any upset or offence contained in some replies. However, I think there are common feelings on the subject matter.
 
I believe they should be sentenced to have both of their hands surgically removed. Under anesthesia and in humane, sterile, operating room conditions.

Then warn them, next time will involve castration and removal of one eye.

And after that.....
 
Jim W. said:
I believe they should be sentenced to have both of their hands surgically removed. Under anesthesia and in humane, sterile, operating room conditions.

Then warn them, next time will involve castration and removal of one eye.

And after that.....
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You jest of course, but if not there is a country you could move to where such punishments can be witnessed for whatever crime it might be, disagreeing with someone important perhaps, though they're not yet beacons of enlightenment or democracy, but if you'll forego those things you'll find it heaven! :) .
 
Animal cruelty does tend to tug the heartstrings.

Football fans have generally never forgiven superstar Mike Vick for his involvement in a dogfighting ring, even after he did 21 months at Leavenworth and has since devoted time, money, and effort to fight animal cruelty. He truly has rehabbed himself but the public doesn't forgive animal cruelty.

NFL star Donte Stallworth killed a pedestrian while DUI. He faced 15 years but was sentenced to 30 days and served 24 days + two years of house arrest while being allowed to continue his career. Very little public outcry.

NFLer Josh Brent was convicted of intoxication manslaughter in the death of his passenger after being clocked at 110mph in a 45mph zone. Since that tragedy, he was involved in several other DUI incidents that required tasing by Officer Friendly. Don't recall any reaction from the public.

Rae Carruth successfully hired a hitman to murder his baby momma and at the time told authoities to kill the baby she was carrying but the baby was saved. Rae did 18 years and has since connected with his son -- hey let's give him an award (sarcasm off) -- but has never faced the public condemnation that Mike Vick has.
 
Treacle said:
Thank you all for the responses. I feel that I should have posed the question in a different way to avoid any upset or offence contained in some replies. However, I think there are common feelings on the subject matter.
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Treacle you have posed the question in just the right way. Not controversial but candid on one of societies most emotionally impacting subjects akin to crimes against children and senior citizens who are easy prey to the sociopaths we all have suffer the presence of. This thread now has a life of it's own. Thanks for posting and GOD Bless.
 
I am repeating myself here:

The laws for torturing/abusing animals should be the same as for torturing/abusing humans.
 
I am so sick and tired of today's namby-pamby "charges"!

The owner dragging the dog beside the car should be handed over to a mob of seething animal lovers!
 

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