Where Will We Get Our Protein in the Future?

We need LESS people

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love your cartoon cptn lightning and agree with your previous comment re overpopulation. i also agree that it is desirable to have more locally produced vegetable protein, but not mass produced. for the more food we produce, the more people we produce. let's go for less humans being born and in our diets, seek quality rather than quantity.
 

Well, I may be ancient but I wasn't around when the dinosaurs became extinct. However, I gather that they were wiped out by a single catastrophic event, and not one that gave them the luxury of adapting. Interestingly enough, the man who was responsible for putting lead in petrol was also the man who developed CFC's ! Pretty good going for one person, who was probably acting with the best intentions.

If you want to worry about the future, then worry about overpopulation, disease and war and less about promoting a particular lifestyle.
The nice thing about being an omnivore is that I enjoy fruit, vegetables and meat. I'm damned if I'm going to change now.


Those are all issues to worry about, but we can't do anything about them personally can we? Unless you want to figure out how to be in the bedrooms of the world???? Or have a way to over ride and improve on the efforts of the pharmaceutical industry? But what we can do personally is take meat and other animal products out of our lives.

I think though that if you are going to make this choice, you should know what the ramifications are. Animal agriculture is responsible for 51% of GHG emissions, the greatest single cause of loss of biodiversity on the planet, the greatest cause of massive deforestation globally, and the reason for the continual leaching of nitrates into the ocean which is slowly killing it. It also uses the majority of our fresh water supplies and cause more pollution from a variety of toxins, ranging from antibiotics to pesticides and herbicides. Those antibiotics by the way are in all likelihood, the exact reason why we are facing the issue of danger from superbugs. This is the choice that is being made and it doesn't just affect that individual who's choosing. It is ultimately affecting the world.

But yeah, you're not alone, there are lots of folks like you. Old habits die hard. I once knew a guy who had a massive heart attack and he was 'scared straight' for a year. Exercises, guarded his diet and he lost weight, he was looking good, and the last time we saw him, he'd given up the new lifestyle, looked awful and sickly with a bigger weight gain and was obviously a ticking time bomb. So yeah, habits are hard to break.

But we aren't the last generation, the young people are coming along and more and more people are learning to live a different way. And the great thing is, the majority of those who switch are women right now, and women are in charge of the home and the kitchen and kids diets by and large and those families will learn to live according to how those women are guiding them. So it will happen and government is getting behind the idea of at least 'less meat' and studies and technologies are proving the point and making the change possible. So I'm not mad at you or any of the folks here at all even though we disagree completely on this. I have every confidence it will happen but big changes take loooottts of time.

So hope you have a nice day Captain.:)
 
Ah, biodiversity... So, would you like to see farm animals disappear from the world? No more cattle, sheep, pigs, chickens etc... I suppose you could always have models of them in museums alongside the Dodo.

You say, "what we can do personally is take meat and other animal products out of our lives", but we can't take personal responsibility for the number of children we have???? Is that it?

If you don't want to eat meat then that's your choice. Mine is to eat meat and nothing you say is going to change that. End of story.
 

They are a man made species, every last one of them. So I'm less concerned about them, then the ones that we can't 'make over again'.

And I never said that we humans should all breed like maniacs did I, but I did point out that you and me going on and on about it isn't going to change anything. But you and I can change how much of an impact that we have on the environment in all those ways mentioned, simply by adjusting what goes on our plate.

Maybe you missed the part of my last comment where I acknowledged that you are unlikely to change and that you have lots of company. You simply aren't at a place where it is important to you and I get that. We're all at different points in our 'big-picture life journey' and I just happen to have arrived here sooner than you or the the next guy.

But I also pointed out that the growing number of mothers who are raising the next and the following generations are coming to understand the injustice of it all and we are raising children who will learn early on that they can change, it's easy and it's necessary as well as just. So one more time, Captain, I hope you have a nice day.
 

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