WHO expected to release report saying Covid originated in wildlife farms in China

Nah, blame it on NASA. All those trips to space. Who knows what is lurking on Mars these days? Harrrrumphhh! Kids these days! :ROFLMAO: o_O🇺🇸

Do I REALLY want to sign my name to this post?!?!? Oh, why not...

Tony
 

Any one who gives any credence to the CCP propaganda re-statements from the WHO is misleading them selves, IMO.

Enjoy!
 
All YOU have to do is look at the Covid statements & news releases, and their timing, from both along with the (pre-Biden) funding for the WHO; if that is not enough evidence for you I'm afraid that I am unwilling to try to help you, as your mind is already made up.

Enjoy!
 
All YOU have to do is look at the Covid statements & news releases, and their timing, from both along with the (pre-Biden) funding for the WHO; if that is not enough evidence for you I'm afraid that I am unwilling to try to help you, as your mind is already made up.

Enjoy!
Since you're still new here you may not be acquainted with @asp3's methods. He is open minded, rigorously looks at evidence, and provides links from credible sources to explain and support what he's learned.
 
...sorry but he comes across, some times, like a troll... no offense intended.

The simplest method that I use to spot media, govt/organizational hypocrisy/propaganda is simply to be aware of who (Not necessarily WHO) supports who and just to mentally be aware of inconsistencies with reality/common sense and file them again mentally.

Hopefully, everyone is aware that Tedros of the WHO got his job with/ because of? chinese support and keeps that in mind when watching his tweets, news releases and who he supports & criticizes.

Enjoy!
 
...sorry but he comes across, some times, like a troll... no offense intended.

The simplest method that I use to spot media, govt/organizational hypocrisy/propaganda is simply to be aware of who (Not necessarily WHO) supports who and just to mentally be aware of inconsistencies with reality/common sense and file them again mentally.

Hopefully, everyone is aware that Tedros of the WHO got his job with/ because of? chinese support and keeps that in mind when watching his tweets, news releases and who he supports & criticizes.

Enjoy!

I'm sorry that I come across as a troll to you. My intention is not to troll. I found the following article which backs up what you were saying. Thank you for motivating me to find more information.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02/china-coronavirus-who-health-soft-power/

mediabiasfactcheck.com gives Foreign Policy high ratings for factual reporting and is only slightly biased towards the right. To me that makes it a reputable publication so I can trust what I read there.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/foreign-policy/
 
To call someone a troll is quite offensive, and from my perspective and experience @asp3 doesn't merit that description in the slightest.
It may be offensive, to some, I'll grant you that.
If you re-read my post you will see that I did not call asp3 a troll ; but said that he sometimes comes across like one; meaning that his posts (I read a few) SOMETIMES have troll like qualities; in my opinion. If I had thought he was a troll I would have said so.

I try, always, to say what I mean and mean what I say... it prevents confusion, Although it doesn't always please others.

Enjoy!
 
Just as an FYI, it is being reported in Austraila that the first known cluster of Covid appears to have occurred with Wuhan Lab workers in late 2019. This is consistent with a host of earlier reports. It is also being suggested that the narrative being now pushed by the WHO is being heavily influenced by the CCP and that WHO's narrative conflicts with that of certain U.S. government agencies and officials. At the center of this seems to be the need by some to placate China for financial and other reasons. Time will tell.
 
Just as an FYI, it is being reported in Austraila that the first known cluster of Covid appears to have occurred with Wuhan Lab workers in late 2019. This is consistent with a host of earlier reports. It is also being suggested that the narrative being now pushed by the WHO is being heavily influenced by the CCP and that WHO's narrative conflicts with that of certain U.S. government agencies and officials. At the center of this seems to be the need by some to placate China for financial and other reasons. Time will tell.

Yep... did a little more digging and found more.
Data published by the Wuhan Wuchang District Health Bureau state that the highest concentration of infections in the early phase of the outbreak occurred in the residential areas along Huanghelou and Ziyang streets, both located within the four miles between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Biological Preparations Institute.
Based on the available SCIENTIFIC evidence, the COVID-19 virus was the product of “gain of function” research, not a natural transmission from an animal host to humans.

There are only 2 reasons for conducting "gain of function" research, (A) to understand the structural features and actions of a virus in order to create a vaccine in anticipation of a potential disease outbreak or (B) to create a biological weapon. Or both. Kind of makes you wonder. :unsure::unsure:
 
Let's all remember that the WHO is first and foremost a political organization within the UN that is dependent on the largess of contributing countries. Trust the UN? Not on your life until something is verified multiple ways.

For Sure! I'm sure the WHO will receive a nice bonus from China if/when they release a report that absolves China from any responsibility. I find it "curious" that this virus seems to have originated in Wuhan....right next door to a Chinese Biological Laboratory.
 
Yep... did a little more digging and found more.
Data published by the Wuhan Wuchang District Health Bureau state that the highest concentration of infections in the early phase of the outbreak occurred in the residential areas along Huanghelou and Ziyang streets, both located within the four miles between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Biological Preparations Institute.
Based on the available SCIENTIFIC evidence, the COVID-19 virus was the product of “gain of function” research, not a natural transmission from an animal host to humans.

There are only 2 reasons for conducting "gain of function" research, (A) to understand the structural features and actions of a virus in order to create a vaccine in anticipation of a potential disease outbreak or (B) to create a biological weapon. Or both. Kind of makes you wonder. :unsure::unsure:

Can you site any reputable articles with the scientific evidence that the virus was a product of "gain of function"? All of the articles I've seen in sources like Scientific American and Science News have all said it's unlikely that the virus was the result of work in a lab.
 
Yep... did a little more digging and found more.
Data published by the Wuhan Wuchang District Health Bureau state that the highest concentration of infections in the early phase of the outbreak occurred in the residential areas along Huanghelou and Ziyang streets, both located within the four miles between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Biological Preparations Institute.
Based on the available SCIENTIFIC evidence, the COVID-19 virus was the product of “gain of function” research, not a natural transmission from an animal host to humans.

There are only 2 reasons for conducting "gain of function" research, (A) to understand the structural features and actions of a virus in order to create a vaccine in anticipation of a potential disease outbreak or (B) to create a biological weapon. Or both. Kind of makes you wonder. :unsure::unsure:
As is often the case, reality usually goes far beyond perception and whatever propaganda is being pushed by the media and/or political organizations. Near the top of the list of suspects not to be trusted is the UN and its various divisions.
 
Can you site any reputable articles with the scientific evidence that the virus was a product of "gain of function"? All of the articles I've seen in sources like Scientific American and Science News have all said it's unlikely that the virus was the result of work in a lab.
Do what you want, but I would recommend you not suggest Scientific American or Science News (along with the WHO) as being reputable sources. SA once was but has become more a populat science rag with political overtones , having recently endorsed a presidential candidate. Sorry, but credibile scientific sources don't engage in political propaganda or promote things like race theory/baiting. Look to medical sources for things on COVID and virology (e.g., NEJM) . Also, it is important to realize that magazines today have had to change to stay in business, which often means becoming more populist/political.
 
Do what you want, but I would recommend you not suggest Scientific American or Science News (along with the WHO) as being reputable sources. SA once was but has become more a populat science rag with political overtones , having recently endorsed a presidential candidate. Sorry, but credibile scientific sources don't engage in political propaganda or promote things like race theory/baiting. Look to medical sources for things on COVID and virology (e.g., NEJM) . Also, it is important to realize that magazines today have had to change to stay in business, which often means becoming more populist/political.

I don't mind bias and don't think that bias makes a publication not reputable. As long as the underlying data and information is accurate they can spin it any way they want to. I would object to leaving out information without explaining why it wasn't considered.

According to mediabiasfactcheck.com Scientific American has a high accuracy rating and a left-center bias rating. That's good enough for me but it might not be for you.

The other publication I mentioned, Science News, has a very high accuracy rating but doesn't have a bias rating. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/science-news/

How do the publications you rely on do in their accuracy and bias ratings?
 
I don't mind bias and don't think that bias makes a publication not reputable. As long as the underlying data and information is accurate they can spin it any way they want to. I would object to leaving out information without explaining why it wasn't considered.

According to mediabiasfactcheck.com Scientific American has a high accuracy rating and a left-center bias rating. That's good enough for me but it might not be for you.

The other publication I mentioned, Science News, has a very high accuracy rating but doesn't have a bias rating. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/science-news/

How do the publications you rely on do in their accuracy and bias ratings?
Several quick thoughts: First, most of the information coming out of China is tightly controlled by the CCP. If you had ever been inside a communist dictatorship country, then you would know that you only get to see and interview who and what they want. Get too far afield and they send you packing or worse. Second, foreign press and news sources cannot get too far afield of the part line if they want to stay. Third, the real news from such places comes through channels that cannot, for all the obvious reasons, be readily identified. Welcome to the real world.
 
Several quick thoughts: First, most of the information coming out of China is tightly controlled by the CCP. If you had ever been inside a communist dictatorship country, then you would know that you only get to see and interview who and what they want. Get too far afield and they send you packing or worse. Second, foreign press and news sources cannot get too far afield of the part line if they want to stay. Third, the real news from such places comes through channels that cannot, for all the obvious reasons, be readily identified. Welcome to the real world.

I completely agree with everything you have said here. However even without direct evidence scientists familiar with viruses and the way the move from species to species and the way they change over time can tell a lot from the information they have based on infections that have occurred outside of China. So I trust the ones who have contributed to articles which tend to dismiss the idea that Covid was deliberately modified to be infectious to humans. I have not done any research into the the backgrounds of the scientists who have contributed to the articles, so I don't know how trustworthy they are. However I trust the organizations that have posted the articles, so for me I'm satisfied with them. I can understand why you would want more information to trust them yourself and don't think that's unreasonable.

I did however think your "Welcome to the real world" was a bit snarky. No need for it in civil discourse.
 


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