Why Europe (or the US) Will Never Solve Mass Immigration

Pepper said:
I almost never watch videos. Don't have the patience.
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That explains a bit about your sometimes confusing to this person postings since you sometimes still post on threads where viewing video links is important for understanding an OP's intent. Glad you mention that which is fine and common, as it will help understanding as I find you quite intelligent. Note I often include a video link's length as an audience will much more likely open a short link versus a lengthy one.
 
Pepper said:
I almost never watch videos. Don't have the patience.
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I watch them when they're about something that interests me and from a solid source but I have no use for conspiracy theorists. Why some people think that if anything ever goes wrong there has to be a cabal out there causing it is beyond me.
 

All of my ancestors were immigrants except for the few who were already standing on the shore waving at the Pilgrims.

If they had known what was ahead, they probably would have not invited them over for Thanksgiving dinner.

A couple of them didn't exactly emigrate but rather were ripped from Africa and brought in chains. Wasn't a picnic in the park for them, either.
 
Very brief:


The prime minister, Keir Starmer, has accused the last government of intentionally turning Britain “into a one-nation experiment in open borders” at a press conference on Thursday.

He announced plans to change the immigration system after new figures showed net migration to the UK had climbed to a “record-hitting 906,000 in 2023.”
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dilettante said:
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In the face of an intractable problem there will too often be a populist party unwilling to work with all parties to effect the best solution possible. Instead they will spread disinformation for political advantage and then act as though the solution was simple and the serious parties are actually the cause of the problem. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
 
MarkD said:
In the face of an intractable problem there will too often be a populist party unwilling to work with all parties to effect the best solution possible. Instead they will spread disinformation for political advantage and then act as though the solution was simple and the serious parties are actually the cause of the problem. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
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Disinformation?

Starmer’s Hollow Words on Immigration David Goodhart
In the spring of 2011, I was at an Oxford college dinner sitting between the two most powerful unelected people in Britain. I said to one of them, Gus O’Donnell, then the most senior civil servant in the land, that I was writing a book about immigration. He replied: “When I was at the Treasury, I argued for the most open door possible to immigration…. I think it’s my job to maximize global welfare, not national welfare.”​
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I was surprised to hear this from the head of a key national institution and asked the man sitting on my other side, Mark Thompson, then director-general of the BBC (subsequently CEO of The New York Times and now of CNN), whether global welfare should be placed before national welfare if the two should conflict. He agreed that it should.​
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This exchange helps to explain why immigration to Britain, which has already been too high for most people’s comfort for the past 20 years and contributed to the Brexit vote in 2016, has exploded in the last couple of years under the post-Brexit arrangements that were supposed to reduce it. Net immigration in the year to June 2023 has just been revised up to more than 900,000 (in a country of 68 million)—more than three times the previous high.​
 

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