Why mandatory vaccination is nothing new

I'm beginning to be able to envision any scenario regarding this virus and vaccination for it. If someone would take a person's livelihood away based upon their medical status, they are desperate and would do even more if they believe another helpless and that they could get away with it.
If this was about health and not money, why is our government treating it's citizens with such outright contempt? That's what it is, let's face it. They first terrify us, confuse us, shame us, then blame us, mandate us into a state of unendurable stress until we can hardly make a decision any more and then they hit us with the decision of all time, get vaccinated with an experimental drug or lose every freedom you've got left. That's not a decision, it's the lowest form of coercion I've seen in my entire life.
Exactly. And it's done under the guise of "Protecting Everyone." It obviously works.......for those who are content to allow themselves to be programmed.
 

I’m pro vaccine but anti mandate. While no one has yet proposed physically forcing a vaccine on the populace, taking away your livelihood is pretty damn close. Over 70% of the population has been fully vaccinated. I see this as a power play, pure and simple.
As I've said, I have no problem with those who want the vaccine.
I have 4 elderly friends - ages 80 - 87. I drove two of them to get their Covid vaccines last year; that's what they wanted.
The third friend - 80 doesn't want the Covid or the flu vaccine. Her husband just died last month - after his flu shot exacerbated his other health issues & his doctor said, "No more flu shots for you & no Covid shot." It was too late for him. He spent his last 3 weeks in the hospital & convalescent home. He was 64.

NONE of our different decisions affected our friendship because we respect each other's decisions.
 
Doesn't matter to me if mandatory vaccination is new or old. Lots of things were mandatory at one time - slavery, tattoos, medical experiments, kidnapping & murder.
I make my health decisions; no one else does.
A mandate is one thing. I can comply with any mandate. Anyone who physically tries to force a drug or vaccine on me will pay with their life.
Oh la la ! What a tough guy! would you like to come for a sail with me ?
 

In my state there is a law (old one, not new) that if you won't submit to treatment for TB then you can be imprisoned. The YouTube I watched about the Spanish flu of 1918 said there was a city (I think in CA) that it was legal for the police to shoot a person dead if they didn't wear a mask. So it seems like it is normal enough to require/enforce people from endangering other people with infectious disease. I forget what that illness was in Africa that caused quite a scare some years ago but I remember there was a big resistance locally just to allowing a few people with that illness to come here for treatment in special infectious disease facilities in my state.
I am unsure whether people who are resistant to getting the covid vaccine really believe there is no danger from covid (or not enough danger) or they simply think they themselves will be okay and don't care whether other people get sick and/or die. Is there a particular illness or death rate that they would change their mind?
The vaccine is mandated where I work and I know one person at least who will probably get fired because she will not get vaccinated, on the one hand it is a pity to lose her because the quality of her work is really good, but on the other hand the quality of her work is less important to me than the well being of myself and my teammates. Plus the company self-insures and why should we all have to pay potentially higher health insurance premiums because some people would prefer to gamble on spending a few weeks in the hospital instead of just get a vaccination. I might be okay with them keeping their job if they don't go into any offices and if they pay an extra amount on their health insurance (company already charges extra for nicotine users). But I guess really my emotional response is if they don't care about my health then I don't care about them having a job.
 
Plus the company self-insures and why should we all have to pay potentially higher health insurance premiums because some people would prefer to gamble on spending a few weeks in the hospital instead of just get a vaccination. I might be okay with them keeping their job if they don't go into any offices and if they pay an extra amount on their health insurance (company already charges extra for nicotine users). But I guess really my emotional response is if they don't care about my health then I don't care about them having a job.

Yep, their selfishness is costing us all — not only through higher insurance rates, but by preventing people from getting treatment for other ailments and injuries because covid patients have filled up hospitals. Non-covid patients have died because they couldn't get admitted to hospitals. There was no room for them!

And then the anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers complain that they're being picked on by the "woke" society. I'm no longer an Aaron Rogers fan. It's bad enough that he's an anti-vaxxer, but he lied about being vaccinated. He now has covid, and if he gets severely ill, he could put Green Bay's entire season in jeopardy. Once again, the word "selfish" is apropos. Granted, even vaccinated people can catch covid, but they're far less likely to become severely ill, and they're far less likely to spread the virus.
 
Yep, their selfishness is costing us all — not only through higher insurance rates, but by preventing people from getting treatment for other ailments and injuries because covid patients have filled up hospitals. Non-covid patients have died because they couldn't get admitted to hospitals. There was no room for them!

And then the anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers complain that they're being picked on by the "woke" society. I'm no longer an Aaron Rogers fan. It's bad enough that he's an anti-vaxxer, but he lied about being vaccinated. He now has covid, and if he gets severely ill, he could put Green Bay's entire season in jeopardy. Once again, the word "selfish" is apropos. Granted, even vaccinated people can catch covid, but they're far less likely to become severely ill, and they're far less likely to spread the virus.
I agree Irwin, very true!
 
Children are our future, we have to protct them at all costs. No unvaccinated adult should be around children unless the adult is vaccinated.
 


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