Why Tipping Feels Like a Scam Now

hollydolly said:
perhaps if they stopped serving massive amounts of food in a serving..and endless refills.. they could charge a reasonable price like the rest of the world for the meal..and pay their staff a proper wage

You shouldn't have to factor in a tip for the waiting staff as part of the cost of your meal.

if I go out and pay £25.00 for a steak for example.. I think that's as much as I would pay, taking into consideration their overheads even tho' at home I could make it for a quarter of that price..but I'm certainly not going to add in another 20 % to pay the waitresses light bill..or buy her kids shoes... ..it's not being mean.

The rest of the world can do it.why can;t America ?
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Why you mad at America?

Tips: A nice gesture, voluntary, give what you want if you want.
Portions: We expect a full plate and don't mind paying for it. What we put in a to-go box will probly be lunch tomorrow.
Wait people: know what their wages will be at Denny's as apposed to a high-end restaurant, but they'll almost always apply for the job at Denny's first. Wage raises happen and they get employee benefits just like everyone else who works.
 
Murrmurr said:
Why you mad at America?

Tips: A nice gesture, voluntary, give what you want if you want.
Portions: We expect a full plate and don't mind paying for it. What we put in a to-go box will probly be lunch tomorrow.
Wait people: know what their wages will be at Denny's as apposed to a high-end restaurant, but they'll almost always apply for the job at Denny's first. Wage raises happen and they get employee benefits just like everyone else who works.
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Not when employers refuse to give them full-time hours.. which has been going on in this area for as long as I know.
 
Sunkist said:
Not when employers refuse to give them full-time hours.. which has been going on in this area for as long as I know.
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That's happening almost everywhere, not only in food service. It's a stupid regulation. Supposed to help businesses. Reducing business taxes would have been so much better for businesses and their employees. But not so swell for the gov't and insurance companies, especially Workers Compensation.
 
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Murrmurr said:
That's happening almost everywhere, not only in food service. It's a stupid regulation. Supposed to help businesses but reducing business taxes would have been so much better for businesses and their employees. But not so swell for the gov't and insurance companies, especially Workers Compensation.
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It's awfully messy for people who need the jobs, too..
 
I've never quite understood the tip being based on the cost of the item.

For instance, I go out with a friend for lunch and she orders Lobster Bisque soup for $20. I order the soup of the day, chicken noodle, for $5. The waitress brings both of the soups together on one tray and sets them in front of us.

Assuming 20%, her tip would be $4, mine would be $1 (in real life, I'd tip more than a $1 because that seems a bit chintzy, but.......). We got the same service, at the same time, on the same tray. She didn't come waltzing out with the lobster bisque and do a tap-dance on the table. Why should my friend pay 4 times as much of a tip as I did. I understand the cost of the soup being higher because it's a higher quality substance. But the tip?

As for tipping for counter service? Nope. I'm sure those folks get regular pay instead of relying on tips. If McDonald employees get $14-15 behind the counter, they're sure not getting any tips from me.

I do sometimes wonder if, when I don't tip when ordering at a counter and paying at the time of ordering, if I'm getting an extra order of spit on my burger. Really, it's best I don't even think about it....or stay home....
 
We hardly ever go out to eat, maybe twice a year and the same place usually. If the service is terrible, I don't leave a tip and don't intend to come back.

If we like the restaurant and return again and again, we leave a a good tip. We order out about once a month and I always give a good tip.

Frankly, I worry about being cheap and having someone spit on my food before it comes to the table or to our door, so I do tip for sure or as I said before, we never go back to someplace we don't like or we never order from some place where we didn't like the food.
 
Murrmurr said:
Why you mad at America?

Tips: A nice gesture, voluntary, give what you want if you want.
Portions: We expect a full plate and don't mind paying for it. What we put in a to-go box will probly be lunch tomorrow.
Wait people: know what their wages will be at Denny's as apposed to a high-end restaurant, but they'll almost always apply for the job at Denny's first. Wage raises happen and they get employee benefits just like everyone else who works.
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isn't it funny, and also very predictable.. if I make any kind of negative comment about anything to do witth the USA..I'm anti-American...this happens every single time, never fails... but Americans make all sorts of comments about the UK, and not once does anyone call them Anti-British.....yet the Video in the OP was made by an American...:unsure:
 
LoveTulips said:
We hardly ever go out to eat, maybe twice a year and the same place usually. If the service is terrible, I don't leave a tip and don't intend to come back.

If we like the restaurant and return again and again, we leave a a good tip. We order out about once a month and I always give a good tip.

Frankly, I worry about being cheap and having someone spit on my food before it comes to the table or to our door, so I do tip for sure or as I said before, we never go back to someplace we don't like or we never order from some place where we didn't like the food.
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surely no-one can spit on your food, if they don't know whether you're going to leave a tip or not yet....

I think all restaurants everywhere in the world would go out of bbusiness if waiters were spitting in the food because no-one gives them a tip...lol
 
hollydolly said:
surely no-one can spit on your food, if they don't know whether you're going to leave a tip or not yet....

I think all restaurants everywhere in the world would go out of bbusiness if waiters were spitting in the food because no-one gives them a tip...lol
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It could be possible, but I think it is unlikely.

On TV some decades ago I watched a sketch in which a bad boss was bullying his employees. For this reason the secretary who brought him a cup of coffee every morning went with the cup to all of his employees that they could spit in it including herself and then handed the cup to her boss with a smile.
 
George1959 said:
It could be possible, but I think it is unlikely.

On TV some decades ago I watched a sketch in which a bad boss was bullying his employees. For this reason the secretary who brought him a cup of coffee every morning went with the cup to all of his employees that they could spit in it including herself and then handed the cup to her boss with a smile.
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I know... I mean it's bound to happen in some places, after all there are idiots in every workforce... but paying in the hope no-one spits in your food is a little bit extreme... ..
 
Murrmurr said:
There are 2 reasons medication is so expensive here. 1) Most are created here, which involves research, testing, trials, and submission and approval, and that isn't cheap. 2) Many are produced here, so there's the cost of laboratories, factories, and employees, as well as the cost and procurement of ingredients, sometimes from another country.
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Murrmurr, your post intrigued me, mostly because I was under the impression that most of our prescription drugs come from China. My impression was incorrect. I did an AI search, which is difficult to judge for accuracy, but here's the response:

APIs are the chemical components that make a drug work. Their origin is even more concentrated abroad.
Where the Active Pharmaceutical Ingredients (APIs) come from
  • India and the European Union are the largest API producers for U.S. medications.
  • 12% of API volume is made in the U.S.
  • China contributes about 8% of API volume, but is a major supplier of key starting materials used to make APIs.
So, If you’re holding a typical U.S. prescription bottle, the odds are:
  • The finished drug was made in India (if generic) or Europe (if brand‑name).
  • The API inside it likely came from India or the EU, with China supplying many of the raw chemical building blocks
I didn't research much further than this one AI query. However, I believe the reason that medications are so expensive here is that the pharmaceutical companies may be influencing our legislators. I'll use just one drug as an example, Insulin for diabetics. This drug is widely available, and has been for decades. I attached a chart showing prices in various countries. Moreover, Since insulin has been in mass market use since 1923 I don't think there many research issues or safety issues requiring ongoing testing and research. I believe that we pay 4.6 times the next highest payer to support higher profits for the pharmaceutical companies.

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LoveTulips said:
I worry about being cheap and having someone spit on my food before it comes to the table or to our door, so I do tip for sure or as I said before, we never go back to someplace we don't like or we never order from some place where we didn't like the food.
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I guess you mean they might do something like that on your next visit, because the tip doesn't come until after the meal is served. If you don't leave a nice tip today, then next time you go, they retaliate? Yes, that could happen. I always wonder what's going on in those kitchens anyway - unwashed hands, dirty utensils, a sick cook coughing (intentionally or not) on food, and so on. If I never ate out again, I'd be fine with that, except for missing the social aspect of sharing a meal with friends.
 
To Insure Prompt Service.

I dont have food delivered.And pay the delivery charge and a tip, too?
For a long time now, service staff feel entitled to a tip, and one time a server kept my change without asking me. Another time I was overcharged because the previous day I didn't leave a tip on a cup of coffee.
 
Michael Z said:
And what is worse is when they serve you after you pay at a counter and that service is influenced by the tip (or no tip). At the Mall of America, we waited forever for a few burgers from a counter when we did not tip. It’s almost like a protection racket!
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what ?.. why are they expecting a tip before they give you service ? :unsure:
 
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