Why what's happening in Sudan is happening

seadoug said:
Absolutely correct. The mainstream media just covers what will get eyeballs. What is going on in Sudan is horrible.
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I didn't realize wars and the atrocities of war have been basically endless for several decades. There have been years-long periods when news outlets just didn't report on it, and people forgot about it.
 

smiley said:
primitive low level human life forms?
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With 1% of Sudan's wealth going toward education, 3% to a healthcare system, and nearly all the rest going offshore while produce food farms burn and swatches of the population is slaughtered, there's little hope of a successful, progressive life for the Sudanese people.

Oh wait...if you were referring to Sudan's government leaders, then Yes, you are spot on.
 
well throughout our globe we do seem to be all advancing or decreasing at varying levels of 'quality of lifestyles'? - surely we didn't all start of equally and kept going that way happy as pigs in s...?
 
smiley said:
well throughout our globe we do seem to be all advancing or decreasing at varying levels of 'quality of lifestyles'? - surely we didn't all start of equally and kept going that way happy as pigs in s...?
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Yeah, I suppose there's always been a sort of class system in basically 2 types of communities under 2 types of leadership:

Homogeneous communities (or tribes) that choose a leader who possess the qualities and skills the community needs to flourish, i.e., wisdom, bravery, intelligence, organization, a talent for peacefully negotiating, trading, and exchanging ideas with other community leaders in the region, and who does not interfere with the people's ability to invent, create, and/or run their businesses, thereby benefiting the community in whole.

And communities (or tribes) that have been conquered, and either improved and flourished under new leadership, or were enslaved, starved of basic needs, displaced by followers of the conqueror, and/or virtually wiped out, and therefor unable to flourish because they were forced to focus on surviving. That's the category most Sudanese communities fell into.

And I suppose they have to live like pigs in shitt because they have no choice, but I'm absolutely certain they aren't as happy as any actual pig happily wallowing anywhere on the globe.
 
Lavinia said:
Much of Africa was once under the rule of various European countries, which kept things stable. However, they didn't realise how lucky they were and demanded independence, slaughtering white people in order to get it.
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Oh yes... people colonized by the Europeans (and others), should have thanked their lucky stars not to mention their masters, because colonizers are soooo benign, giving, generous, stabilizing, respectful and uplifting to indigenous populations. Not!
 
hearlady said:
The children always suffer for no fault of their own. 😕
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After all 3 of my kids reached adulthood and left the nest, I signed up with one of those global charity organizations that has an "adopt a kid" program. I was assigned to a 9yr-old Sudanese boy named Israel, and sent "him" the max amount of money every month (I think it was $25 at the time), and we exchanged monthly letters. His letters included an English translation, and my letters were read to him by one of the organization's social workers at their kid's activities and services center.

He traced his hand at the bottom of one of his letters, which was translated as "Thank you, friend." That was pretty cool. I still have that letter, stored in a box of photos and other special letters and cards and such.
 
VaughanJB said:
They didn't cover what went on in the Israeli/Palenstine incident either - it's all a matter of political influence.
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Well they've covered certain parts of it, right?...the parts that fit their politics. (on both sides)

It's not merely dis-informative when journalists and news outlets become political influencers, it's dangerous. And there's proof of that.
 
When we see adds on TV for save the children fund which I believe is a good charity …. …but we wonder where the fathers of there’s staving / malnourished children are ? ….
here in Australia it shows one woman at 24 years old with 6 starving children
 
Kadee said:
When we see adds on TV for save the children fund which I believe is a good charity …. …but we wonder where the fathers of there’s staving / malnourished children are ? ….
here in Australia it shows one woman at 24 years old with 6 starving children
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Many Sudanese single mothers are victims of rape that caused pregnancy. Many of them are very young, and have multiple children of rapists. And husbands with children can be counted among the several hundreds of thousands of men who have been killed.

My heart aches for those mothers, who are not only victims themselves, but have to witness their children's horrible suffering and slow deaths.
 
Murrmurr said:
Well they've covered certain parts of it, right?...the parts that fit their politics. (on both sides)

It's not merely dis-informative when journalists and news outlets become political influencers, it's dangerous. And there's proof of that.
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Sure. They covered some. But they dressed it up, took away all responsibility, and blamed the victim.

Yet few people care. What has happened in Sudan is bad. But bad things happen elsewhere, and politics means it's either not reported, or it's reported with an extreme level of censorship. Censorship isn't about not reporting, sometimes it's in turning everything into propaganda. As far as victims go - the mothers of the children in Sudan won't be suffering more than the mothers in Palestine.
 
Murrmurr said:
Many Sudanese single mothers are victims of rape that caused pregnancy. Many of them are very young, and have multiple children of rapists. And husbands with children can be counted among the several hundreds of thousands of men who have been killed.

My heart aches for those mothers, who are not only victims themselves, but have to witness their children's horrible suffering and slow deaths.
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Sad ..very sad to see girls as young as 12 with a child @Murrmurr
 
Lavinia said:
Much of Africa was once under the rule of various European countries, which kept things stable. However, they didn't realise how lucky they were and demanded independence, slaughtering white people in order to get it.
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What in the colonial arrogance is that supposed to mean?
I believe that things were destabilised by colonialism.
 
Rakaia said:
Rakaia said:
What in the colonial arrogance is that supposed to mean?
I believe that things were destabilised by colonialism.
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Africans are tribal, as are all human beings. Under European rule, countries were stable. Once we left, the different tribes were determined to annihilate each other. I should add that I have lived in Africa so I have personal experience of the hostility between the different tribes. It's the same in most countries where you get different factions occupying the same space. Human nature.
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@Lavinia
Were things really that stable under colonialism or were they suppressed so as to appear to be stable until they fell apart in the 50's & 60's ?
 

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