Would You And Your Family Be Ready A Serious Emergency?

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What if you had to shelter in place for two weeks or a month? Would you have enough food and water? What if you had to leave your home with only 5 - 10 minutes notice? There have been a number of such cases in New Jersey and New York City over the years. What if you and your family were separated during a disaster and couldn't return home. Would you know where to meet and each know what procedures to follow? The website below gives information about the various emergencies a family might face and how to prepare for them. When I thought of posting this, I wanted to post the Ready.gov site but it's not connecting for me tonight.
https://www.emergency.cdc.gov/hazards-specific.asp
 

We could shelter in place for several weeks with a couple of hours advance notice. Water would be the tough one.
If we had to vacate with 10 minutes notice, we would be in a very, very bad place. Especially with our pets.

I think that I need to take a serious look at the link you have posted. Thanks, it is a serious matter and my relatives in Northern California have been through this drill with the fires. None of them lost anything, but the next town down the interstate burned to the ground.
 
What if you had to shelter in place for two weeks or a month? Would you have enough food and water? What if you had to leave your home with only 5 - 10 minutes notice? There have been a number of such cases in New Jersey and New York City over the years. What if you and your family were separated during a disaster and couldn't return home. Would you know where to meet and each know what procedures to follow? The website below gives information about the various emergencies a family might face and how to prepare for them. When I thought of posting this, I wanted to post the Ready.gov site but it's not connecting for me tonight.
https://www.emergency.cdc.gov/hazards-specific.asp

Yes for sheltering in place. Leaving home in 5-10 minutes ...we have people to take us in, so I guess yes though it would be a scramble packing the necessities that go with age. Separated during a disaster we would find each other through family and friends. Most of the positives are due to the fact that so many extended, close-knit family members and overlapping friends live within a 100 mile radius. If an asteroid or something takes out the lot of us, so be it!
 

Yes, I am fine for about 4 months here. It happened back in 95, they called it a down burst. Miles of trees and power lines and poles down. Millions without power. We were over 6 weeks without power. Over a week before the road was opened.
That decided me to make sure I have what I need and I know many here have done the same. Many were without power for a few more months.
 
Having an emergency plan IS very important. We live on the fringe of tornado alley, and the last one to hit close by was over 100 years ago, but that could change at any time...so I built a reinforced area in the basement where we can shelter. We have a NOAA weather radio, and take any "Watches/Warnings" seriously. We have plenty of food in the house, and a good well for water. I have a generator that can supply us with power if we have an outage....our worst one was 18 hours, about 10 years ago. In an extreme case, where we had to evacuate, I keep all of our important papers in a small fireproof safe, which I can quickly throw into the car/truck.

While there is always the risk of Nature going wild, being prepared for it at least gives us some peace of mind.
 
Yes for sheltering in place. we have a large food pantry AND a can opener, plenty of water, a generator, and always a spare propane tank.
If we had to evacuate, as we did last year for the Maria fire, we have a printed checklist of what we take.
 
@Pecos Can't you get cases of bottled water? We've had water emergencies here a few times over the decades so I got in the habit of keeping some on hand. Have 3 cases now...my son brought me an extra case when the COVID craziness started at the stores. But normally I use a Brita pitcher.
@AnnieA I remember Mayor Bloomberg talking about keeping a "go bag" ready so I decided to do that. I have a small, rolling suitcase (well it used to be my son's but I commandeered it when he stopped using it). It has straps that snap so if the zipper were to fail...no problem. I have clothes in space bags, my medications, eyedrops, water, non perishable food items that can be easily opened, masks, gloves, various personal care items, battery operated radio, Brita water bottle, etc. I also have a week of medications and more eyedrops in a tote bag that I use as a purse, along with a back up battery for my devices and more personal care items. I plan to take an insulated lunch bag with more snacks and water.

One thing I realized during Hurricane Sandy...I need not only a plan B but a plan C as well. All Jersey highways were shut down so I couldn't get to my planned go to spot..our Atlantic City timeshare. Blessedly my son and DIL lived in a three bedroom apartment. The third bedroom was more like an apartment in what must've been an attic at one time. It had a nice, large bathroom, a living area and a bedroom, which was my oldest grandson's. I slept in the living area. It was October and cold. After two days with no power, I decided to stay there. I was treated like a queen the few days I was there.
 
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Would You And Your Family Be Ready A Serious Emergency?


Probably more ready than most, as we already live off grid, and have plenty of stores stowed away, primarily for a harsh winter

What if you had to shelter in place for two weeks or a month?

That'd be a snap, as in winter, we don't go to town more'n once a month.

Big emergency?
As in grid down?
Prolly last six months, tops

Forest fires are our concern, and it's tinder dry right now, where we live

I'd hafta rebuild

I could do it, but I sure don't want to

What if you and your family were separated during a disaster and couldn't return home.

We're 250 miles from any family now.
And their 'home' ain't ours
 
Shelter in place - the meals wouldn’t be great. As long as the water was running, I could cook. No electricity, I’d be in trouble. No heat in winter, major trouble. It would be time to turn off the water so the pipes didn’t freeze & hope we could get to a city with a hotel. Family is too far away.

If you have one or two minutes to get out of your house because the fire is approaching, you grab what you can & run. I put on glasses, clothes and shoes, grabbed my purse & phone and left. DH did the same. There was absolutely no wind or we wouldn’t have had 30 seconds. The neighbour was showered with exploding glass as he ran out the door, both he and his wife in bare feet.

We try to make sure the car is always half full of gas.
 
It would depend on the problem/emergency.

I suppose that we all prepare for the events that are likely to happen in our area.

I'm prepared for the weather emergencies that are common to my area of the country but without basic utilities like power and water, I would be in trouble after two or three days and probably couldn't last more than a week at the most.

I would be fine to be out of the door and on the road in five minutes. I might have to pull into Walmart or Target for a few basics when I got to a safe area but I would be fine. I suppose the biggest problem for me would be charging the phone.
 
@AnnieA I remember Mayor Bloomberg talking about keeping a "go bag" ready so I decided to do that. I have a small, rolling suitcase (well it used to be my son's but I commandeered it when he stopped using it). It has straps that snap so if the zipper were to fail...no problem. I have clothes in space bags, my medications, eyedrops, water, non perishable food items that can be easily opened, masks, gloves, various personal care items, battery operated radio, Brita water bottle, etc. I also have a week of medications and more eyedrops in a tote bag that I use as a purse, along with a back up battery for my devices, more personal care items. I plan to take a insulated lunch bag with more snacks and water.

I do have all that but the meds in my car as a "Get Home" bag including a tiny $24 Walmart dome tent. There's not much I can think of that would cause people to have to leave homes in our area. Tornadoes are our major threat and I live near my parents who have a three room basement. We're not near a nuclear power plant but a chemical spill is a possibility.

Water--as you covered above--is the most important emergency preparedness item. I keep a few bottles of water in my car at all times plus purification methods since we have an abundance of bodies of water in this area. A GRAYL purification bottle is the best for drinking and will even filter viruses. Also have purification tablets and a Sawyer Mini filter (got that before the GRAYL but it still works and is small so I kept it.) A lot of people buy Life Straws, but the Sawyer Minis process more and are easier to use due to being able to put filtered water into a container instead of just drinking through the straw. Neither Life Straws or Sawyer Minis remove viruses.

This article goes into the physical progression of dehydration which shows the importance of water. Then think of what we need for cooking and hygiene needs ...it adds up to needing a good bit of potable water on hand and the means to purify more.

How Long Can A Person Survive Without Water


There's no reliable predictor of how fast dehydration would kill a person. Many survival blogs suggest that an average person can survive for somewhere from two days to a week without liquids, but that's a rough estimate at best.​
So how much water does a person need to lose before severe dehydration sets in? According to 2009 National Health Service guidelines in the United Kingdom, severe dehydration sets in when a person loses about 10 percent of their total weight to water loss — though that measurement is too difficult to use in practice.​
But at up to 1.5 liters of water loss per hour on a hot day, that kind of dehydration can happen a lot faster than conventional wisdom suggests.​
Once a person's water levels dip below a healthy amount, characteristic symptoms set in: thirst, dry skin, fatigue, light-headedness, dizziness, confusion, dry mouth, and speedy pulse and breathing...​
Patients come in to the emergency room, "and they're fatigued, tired, sometimes dizzy — more when they stand up — [and] sometimes vomiting," Dickson told Live Science. "If [the dehydration] is really bad, they can be in shock, where they're cold and clammy, not responsive. It can also be that they just don't feel well, a generalized malaise."​
As water levels drop inside the body, the liquid gets diverted to fill vital organs with blood, causing cells throughout the body to shrink ...As water leaches out of brain cells, Berns explained, the brain contracts and blood vessels within the cranium can burst.​
Kidneys usually fail first among the organs and stop cleaning waste out of the shrinking blood supply... At that point, the other organs fail in a toxic cascade.​
 
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@Pecos Can't you get cases of bottled water? We've had water emergencies here a few times over the decades so I got in the habit of keeping some on hand. Have 3 cases now...my son brought me an extra case when the COVID craziness started at the stores. But normally I use a Brita pitcher.
@AnnieA I remember Mayor Bloomberg talking about keeping a "go bag" ready so I decided to do that. I have a small, rolling suitcase (well it used to be my son's but I commandeered it when he stopped using it). It has straps that snap so if the zipper were to fail...no problem. I have clothes in space bags, my medications, eyedrops, water, non perishable food items that can be easily opened, masks, gloves, various personal care items, battery operated radio, Brita water bottle, etc. I also have a week of medications and more eyedrops in a tote bag that I use as a purse, along with a back up battery for my devices, more personal care items. I plan to take a insulated lunch bag with more snacks and water.

One thing I realized during Hurricane Sandy...I need not only a plan B but a plan C as well. All Jersey highways were shut down so I couldn't get to my planned go to spot..our Atlantic City timeshare. Blessedly my son and DIL lived in a three bedroom apartment. The third bedroom was more like an apartment in what must've been an attic at one time. It had a nice, full large bathroom, a living area and a bedroom. I slept in the living area. I was treated like a queen the few days I was there due to loss of power in my apartment.
We have purchased cases of bottled water as a backup, but we forget to use it and replace it like we should. I wish that it came in containers where it could last longer. Purchasing and then throwing away all those plastic bottles bothers me because it is wasteful and bad for the environment. I wish that my confidence in the effectiveness of recycling were higher.

Thus far, I have not found a long term drinking water storage system/method that I am completely satisfied with. I would like to be able to store at least 25 gallons of drinking water that I would not have to mess with. Right now, when we get the word that a hurricane is approaching, we fill a lot of water bottles for drinking, fill and freeze more water in containers, fill one of the bathtubs with water for toilet flushing and then "punt." I do have three large containers in the garage that are always full of water, but they are so heavy that emptying and refilling them on a regular basis is impractical, so they are backup flushing water.

I think that water system for residences should come with an installed short term drinking water storage tank of at least 50 gallons. The water in that tank should be refreshed during normal water consumption.

I have lived with a long term water shortage and it was not fun. When I was on Okinawa, we had one summer with severe water rationing after a disgruntled employee got drunk and succeeded in draining most of the water in the main reservoir one night. The remaining water in the reservoir was so low that it was only turned on for two hours every other day. Furthermore, tiny pinholes in those old iron pipes allowed sewerage to seep into the water system when there was no pressure. So our water was also polluted and we had to treat it with small amounts of Clorox before using it to cook or drink. All of us had large clean metal trash cans that we filled when the water was on. It was sponge baths for bathing, unless you were able to be home when the water was available. Washing our clothes in a bucket. (Yes we were rather "ripe") The water did not smell, but we could not trust it.

Ice cubes that have been made from water treated with Clorox will turn your morning orange juice brown (not very appealing to look at even though the taste doesn't change .... that much).

Finally the rainy season returned, and life went back to normal.

I have no idea what the Okinawan Government did to the guy who drained the system, but I doubt that it was pleasant.

I do need to come up with a better solution to our emergency drinking water storage problem.
 
What if you had to shelter in place for two weeks or a month? Would you have enough food and water? What if you had to leave your home with only 5 - 10 minutes notice? There have been a number of such cases in New Jersey and New York City over the years. What if you and your family were separated during a disaster and couldn't return home. Would you know where to meet and each know what procedures to follow? The website below gives information about the various emergencies a family might face and how to prepare for them. When I thought of posting this, I wanted to post the Ready.gov site but it's not connecting for me tonight.
https://www.emergency.cdc.gov/hazards-specific.asp
Sorry I live in NJ...We never had to leave our home and go to a shelter....We are here 45 years....We've had fires, 9/11 and some outages,
but never left our home....We have a home generator....
 
We have purchased cases of bottled water as a backup, but we forget to use it and replace it like we should. I wish that it came in containers where it could last longer. Purchasing and then throwing away all those plastic bottles bothers me because it is wasteful and bad for the environment. I wish that my confidence in the effectiveness of recycling were higher.

Thus far, I have not found a long term drinking water storage system/method that I am completely satisfied with. I would like to be able to store at least 25 gallons of drinking water that I would not have to mess with. Right now, when we get the word that a hurricane is approaching, we fill a lot of water bottles for drinking, fill and freeze more water in containers, fill one of the bathtubs with water for toilet flushing and then "punt." I do have three large containers in the garage that are always full of water, but they are so heavy that emptying and refilling them on a regular basis is impractical, so they are backup flushing water.

I think that water system for residences should come with an installed short term drinking water storage tank of at least 50 gallons. The water in that tank should be refreshed during normal water consumption.

I have lived with a long term water shortage and it was not fun. When I was on Okinawa, we had one summer with severe water rationing after a disgruntled employee got drunk and succeeded in draining most of the water in the main reservoir one night. The remaining water in the reservoir was so low that it was only turned on for two hours every other day. Furthermore, tiny pinholes in those old iron pipes allowed sewerage to seep into the water system when there was no pressure. So our water was also polluted and we had to treat it with small amounts of Clorox before using it to cook or drink. All of us had large clean metal trash cans that we filled when the water was on. It was sponge baths for bathing, unless you were able to be home when the water was available. Washing our clothes in a bucket. (Yes we were rather "ripe") The water did not smell, but we could not trust it.

Ice cubes that have been made from water treated with Clorox will turn your morning orange juice brown (not very appealing to look at even though the taste doesn't change .... that much).

Finally the rainy season returned, and life went back to normal.

I have no idea what the Okinawan Government did to the guy who drained the system, but I doubt that it was pleasant.

I do need to come up with a better solution to our emergency drinking water storage problem.

That sounds like an awful summer! I learned about the importance of water during a two week power outage due to an ice storm. My water company didn't have back-up generators. I had access to water from neighbors who used other providers but learned quickly that transporting water is no fun.

Have you thought about using Nestle 5 gallon jugs? They do home delivery, have a bottle recycling program through retailers and the jugs fit a lot of home dispensers and coolers. Can also get jug top dispensers.
 
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We could manage for at least a month without adding to our stock of food and water.

5-10 minutes would be a severe, probably very localized emergency giving only enough time to grab the dog, bottled water, medicine, phones, chargers and IDs. So yes, we could do that. How well we'd fare would depend on how far the evacuation zone extended.

If a fire was nearby and looked like it might threaten our area, within an hour we could have our RV packed up with everything we'd need and we'd be on the road.

We have local, out of state, and out of country contacts and could connect back with local relatives by getting in touch through those outside the emergency area.
 
What if you had to shelter in place for two weeks or a month? Would you have enough food and water? What if you had to leave your home with only 5 - 10 minutes notice? There have been a number of such cases in New Jersey and New York City over the years. What if you and your family were separated during a disaster and couldn't return home. Would you know where to meet and each know what procedures to follow? The website below gives information about the various emergencies a family might face and how to prepare for them. When I thought of posting this, I wanted to post the Ready.gov site but it's not connecting for me tonight.
https://www.emergency.cdc.gov/hazards-specific.asp
Thanks for the timely reminder, Diva.

p.s. The www.ready.gov site is up and running.
I printed out the checklist pages on https://www.ready.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/ready_emergency-supply-kit-checklist.pdf
 
We live in earthquake country so there is possibility that our lives will be disrupted for days or possibly weeks at any moment without warning. Our house has withstood the 1906 and the Loma Prieta earthquakes and would probably do well, but water and gas service could be down for a while. We have enough food to deal with it and have enough propane for a little while, but water could be an issue. I would like to have more but my wife is convinced we don't need more (We probably have about six gallons at any point in time.) However we have relatives spread throughout the area who might be unaffected or less impacted than we would be.

As far as leaving 5-10 minutes it depends on how widespread the issue requiring evacuation is. We could probably get what we needed together in 5-10 minutes and could probably go to one of our relatives. If it's more widespread getting that many people out of the area would be problematic, so there are places we could go locally that are unlikely to be impacted.
 
We have purchased cases of bottled water as a backup, but we forget to use it and replace it like we should. I wish that it came in containers where it could last longer. Purchasing and then throwing away all those plastic bottles bothers me because it is wasteful and bad for the environment. I wish that my confidence in the effectiveness of recycling were higher.

Thus far, I have not found a long term drinking water storage system/method that I am completely satisfied with. I would like to be able to store at least 25 gallons of drinking water that I would not have to mess with. Right now, when we get the word that a hurricane is approaching, we fill a lot of water bottles for drinking, fill and freeze more water in containers, fill one of the bathtubs with water for toilet flushing and then "punt." I do have three large containers in the garage that are always full of water, but they are so heavy that emptying and refilling them on a regular basis is impractical, so they are backup flushing water.

I think that water system for residences should come with an installed short term drinking water storage tank of at least 50 gallons. The water in that tank should be refreshed during normal water consumption.

I have lived with a long term water shortage and it was not fun. When I was on Okinawa, we had one summer with severe water rationing after a disgruntled employee got drunk and succeeded in draining most of the water in the main reservoir one night. The remaining water in the reservoir was so low that it was only turned on for two hours every other day. Furthermore, tiny pinholes in those old iron pipes allowed sewerage to seep into the water system when there was no pressure. So our water was also polluted and we had to treat it with small amounts of Clorox before using it to cook or drink. All of us had large clean metal trash cans that we filled when the water was on. It was sponge baths for bathing, unless you were able to be home when the water was available. Washing our clothes in a bucket. (Yes we were rather "ripe") The water did not smell, but we could not trust it.

Ice cubes that have been made from water treated with Clorox will turn your morning orange juice brown (not very appealing to look at even though the taste doesn't change .... that much).

Finally the rainy season returned, and life went back to normal.

I have no idea what the Okinawan Government did to the guy who drained the system, but I doubt that it was pleasant.

I do need to come up with a better solution to our emergency drinking water storage problem.
I keep my bottled water "forever" :) I read that companies that companies putting those best by dates on is just a CYA thing. It should be good unless flood water possibly seeped into the bottles. I like your idea:
"I think that water system for residences should come with an installed short term drinking water storage tank of at least 50 gallons. The water in that tank should be refreshed during normal water consumption."
I have about 10 or 12 gallons of water stored around here for bathing in case of a water emergency. Beyond that, since my son and DIL don't live in the same town (though not that far), I could probably go there if need be.
 
Sorry I live in NJ...We never had to leave our home and go to a shelter....We are here 45 years....We've had fires, 9/11 and some outages,
but never left our home....We have a home generator....
I'm a Jersey girl too Peppermint. Born and raised here. My friend and I were talking the other day about how we don't see so much of the extreme weather events happening here that happen across the rest of the states. But Sandy did a lot of folks in and some folks are still not back in their homes down the shore. My former boss came home from vacation in Mexico to find his home was completely destroyed by Sandy. It was tinder wood. Luckily he and his wife are well off and just went and bought another house.
 
Phones.

We maintain an inexpensive landline. When cell towers are down or overloaded, these may still be operational.

Cell phones. As I mentioned that was one of the few things I took when running out the door. Family & friends will be trying to contact you or vice versa. As much as some people don’t want one, you need to be able to communicate.

I sleep with the phone on the nightstand beside my glasses.
 
I'm a Jersey girl too Peppermint. Born and raised here. My friend and I were talking the other day about how we don't see so much of the extreme weather events happening here that happen across the rest of the states. But Sandy did a lot of folks in and some folks are still not back in their homes down the shore. My former boss came home from vacation in Mexico to find his home was completely destroyed by Sandy. It was tinder wood. Luckily he and his wife are well off and just went and bought another house.
it
2 blocks....We do have a Generator....Thank Goodness...Yes many people near the shore lost their homes....My brother was
lucky he had a condo...with little damage...He was 2 blocks from the water....
Most in our town built homes after Sandy...We have an inlet first then it opens up to the Bay....It could get rough their
in a storm...
 
That sounds like an awful summer! I learned about the importance of water during a two week power outage due to an ice storm. My water company didn't have back-up generators. I had access to water from neighbors who used other providers but learned quickly that transporting water is no fun.

Have you thought about using Nestle 5 gallon jugs? They do home delivery, have a bottle recycling program through retailers and the jugs fit a lot of home dispensers and coolers. Can also get jug top dispensers.
I am going to look at the Nestle option, and I probably "enjoyed" the same ice storm. We were without power for five days and the roads were all blocked with fallen trees. I heated the house with wood and cooked in pots hanging from a chain inside the fireplace. It was pretty primitive around here for that five days, but the water system continued to work as well as the landline phone. All of the cell towers went dead.
 
I keep my bottled water "forever" :) I read that companies that companies putting those best by dates on is just a CYA thing. It should be good unless flood water possibly seeped into the bottles. I like your idea:
"I think that water system for residences should come with an installed short term drinking water storage tank of at least 50 gallons. The water in that tank should be refreshed during normal water consumption."
I have about 10 or 12 gallons of water stored around here for bathing in case of a water emergency. Beyond that, since my son and DIL don't live in the same town (though not that far), I could probably go there if need be.
Our water heater stores water exactly that way. Not 50 gallons, but an ongoing reservoir nonetheless.

People who live in earthquake country are frequently reminded to be self sufficient for 3 days at a minimum and the importance of drinking water storage is strongly emphasized.

I've discovered that 2 liter soda bottles are perfectly suited to long term water storage. They're far sturdier than bottled water containers. My husband sometimes splashes a bit of Minute Maid Pink Lemonade in his water which is how I accumulated the bottles over time. If you're not normally a soda drinker you can save plastic beverage containers for OJ, iced tea, juice, and similar. Or ask your kids or a couple of neighbors to save theirs.

Just rinse them out, fill with Brita type purified water, mark them with the date, and stash them in a designated area.

Every year we rotate the water by watering plants or dumping it in the pool when the water level is low. Then refill and redate.
 


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