WheatenLover
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I don't own a gun.
Me too. He was, by all accounts I have read, a quiet man who lived alone in a remote farmhouse. His property had been targeted by thieves on multiple occasions. Tony Martin did have an unlicensed gun and it is, of course, tragic that a young lad died but, I think what he did was understandable.
If you saw the misery, and continuing problems my neighbor has had to endure, you might understand.I saw it and other posts and still don't think you Have to kill them.
Don, the Crips and Bloods are still huge but their main turf is the bay area. Thing is, they do have "reps" who manage several scattered neighborhoods here in Central Calif. These reps get set up in nice homes in nice neighborhoods with nice cars. Their job is to manage bad business in bad neighborhoods, and they get stupid kids to the work for them. These kids are convinced they can climb the ladder to the nice house and the new car and all that BS. They often get themselves killed or behind bars instead, but they rarely name the rep...that's a guaranteed death sentence.Yup, and you can bet that these thugs will Never cooperate in any police investigation. California has the largest Latino population in the U.S. and I can see the day coming when it changes its name to Mexifornia.
Years ago, the Crips and Bloods were the dominant gangs in California. Now the Latino gangs have largely eliminated those groups, and taken over as the "supreme" authorities in that region.
That is an offense in the US as well. You cannot shoot someone in the back as they are escaping or running away. When they are doing that, they are no longer an imminent threat to you; they are police business, not yours.If you read the news article from the time...........He shot two people who had broken into a building where he stored antiques, WHILE they were climbing OUT of a window, to escape. He shot them both...In the back. He was convicted, but in a later appeal , he was judged to have a " persecution complex " and his sentence was reduced to three years. Read the link that was provided, and come to your own conclusions. JimB.
The same here, except you, like the police, can shoot a fleeing felon who you have probable cause to believe, if permitted to escape, they will cause death or serious physical harm to others. The facts are essential in a case like this.If you read the news article from the time...........He shot two people who had broken into a building where he stored antiques, WHILE they were climbing OUT of a window, to escape. He shot them both...In the back. He was convicted, but in a later appeal , he was judged to have a " persecution complex " and his sentence was reduced to three years. Read the link that was provided, and come to your own conclusions. JimB.
Yeah, these street gangs are firmly entrenched in most major cities, and prey upon the lower income people and neighborhoods. They force everyone in those areas to live in awful conditions, knowing that If they were ever to cooperate with the police, they, and perhaps their entire family would be history. They are far worse than the Mafia ever was.Don, the Crips and Bloods are still huge but their main turf is the bay area. Thing is, they do have "reps" who manage several scattered neighborhoods here in Central Calif. These reps get set up in nice homes in nice neighborhoods with nice cars. Their job is to manage bad business in bad neighborhoods, and they get stupid kids to the work for them. These kids are convinced they can climb the ladder to the nice house and the new car and all that BS. They often get themselves killed or behind bars instead, but they rarely name the rep...that's a guaranteed death sentence.
I was going to claim more guns than Judycat as a deterrent to robbers, but then I thought what if they needed guns for their gang and thought my house would be the best one to rob?Yes I have so many guns I don't know where to put them anymore. It's like they are breeding or something. Every so many months I go looking for something and I have to move all these guns and ammo. It is a real irritation.
Ya know, some here will take you seriously........Oh I live alone and have several guns. I prefer the S&W .357 Combat Magnum because of the stopping power and ease of use. I also own a .22 bolt action rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun of unknown origin that's been in the family since the 50s. Interestingly in my state it is legal to close carry a handgun but some some reason open carry is more regulated. Don't ask me to explain.
Anyway some late nights when I can't sleep I take Old Black Mavis (the name for my S&W) out and just sit on the porch looking at the sky and the stars with Cosette at my feet, stroking the barrel, loading it and unloading it, and loading it and unloading it. And loading it and unloading it. just trying to get faster at loading it and unloading it, loading it and unloading it. Then loading it and unloading it, and loading it and unloading it. Of course then looking at the sky and loading it and unloading it. After a few hours my bones get cold and I put Old Black Mavis to bed under my pillow and Cosette takes the evening watch outside.
Perhaps I should buy a security system.
I've learned so much from this thread.
Persecution complex gets you off? Don't all gun owners have at least a touch of that? Otherwise why have a gun unless you think someone at some time might be out to get you?
So you have more to learn...I own only 'long guns' as I am a hunter! I have no guns for protection. And of course, no hand guns. My long guns, especially shotguns, would be good for protection, but that is not my reason for having them.
Yes - much like these situations:I would definitely own a gun if I lived in a dangerous neighborhood where I worried about some a-hole breaking into my house or if I worried about getting mugged when out for a walk, so I can understand why some people own handguns.
I don't think there's much self-defense use for AR-15 style weapons unless there's some kind of "home invasion" where throngs of hoodlums swarm through the windows and doors and you're trapped in the basement with your back to the wall pointing your gun at the door at the top of the stairs, waiting in anticipation for the door to be flung open while eating a tuna fish sandwich...
I thought the model 37 Ithica was referred to as the "sweet 16", that's what my dad always called his anyway. We called those old Brownings a "hump back".But seriously, I have 3 handguns (which I have a permit for) and a Browning"Sweet 16" shotgun. All inherited from my dad. The Radom he brought back as a souvenir from the European theater of WW2.
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Interesting trivia on that Ruger 22 pistol. The black Eagle emblem on the grip was originally red. It was changed to black after Ruger's partner - Alexander Sturm died. (company was originally "Sturm Ruger & Co.")But seriously, I have 3 handguns (which I have a permit for) and a Browning"Sweet 16" shotgun. All inherited from my dad. The Radom he brought back as a souvenir from the European theater of WW2.
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Like the ad says: "In perfect condition. Used only once."
@debodun, we all know exactly where you live..........maybe delete your gun references?Not sure why people would discuss whether they have guns in their home on a public forum.
Seriously thinkYou seriously think someone would come all the way to my boondocks just for a few guns? Also, they have to wonder if I keep a loaded one by the front door.
That is what we always have called it. I have a police special with the iridescent site. double 00 buckshot... perfect home defense. Just hangs around with the old cowboy 30-30, the deer rifle 30-06, and one of those scary guns.I thought the model 37 Ithica was referred to as the "sweet 16", that's what my dad always called his anyway. We called those old Brownings a "hump back".