Being Old is a Privilege

We barely know how to ask the right questions. Now they have very sophisticated AI "conversing" with each other. It is being programmed so that it will find solutions and answers and whatever by itself. It can teach itself to learn. That's when the scary stuff might happen. We don't know how smart it will become. It might have ideas that we have no understanding of. It will have to teach us this new knowledge.
 

Interestingly, progress is being made the other way. Machines are becoming more human like, while humans worry about gender. AI will lead to machines that aren't simple decision tree's, but can key off human traits to make decisions that imitate human behavior. There are already chatbots where you can't tell if the person you're conversing with is a human or a machine. We are creating machines in our own image.
Due to being incapacitated by Madeira's Airport, I can only reply now that I have left the stress of the situation.

Machines becoming "human-like" is a simulation or an illusion we are building for ourselves. We think we can weed out some of the human frailties by mechanising them, but in doing so, we take out the interest, the concern, the authentic gestures, the reasonable doubt, the genuine enquiry. My concern is that this could be the back door of eugenics at some time and the creation of cyborgs that resemble the Borg more than real people.

My other concern is that our flesh is a very important part of being genuine, precisely because it deteriorates in all of us, and enables us to sense the struggle of others. It also puts barriers up like the Cherubim at Eden, and confronts us with physical reality, which is something that I have experienced people in top positions, or in in ivory towers tend to forget. At a hygiene conference, a colleague told us of the days when he was studying medicine, and how they dreamed of one day ridding the world of infections. He said it was sobering to now identify more types of infections than ever before.
 

Due to being incapacitated by Madeira's Airport, I can only reply now that I have left the stress of the situation.

Machines becoming "human-like" is a simulation or an illusion we are building for ourselves. We think we can weed out some of the human frailties by mechanising them, but in doing so, we take out the interest, the concern, the authentic gestures, the reasonable doubt, the genuine enquiry. My concern is that this could be the back door of eugenics at some time and the creation of cyborgs that resemble the Borg more than real people.

My other concern is that our flesh is a very important part of being genuine, precisely because it deteriorates in all of us, and enables us to sense the struggle of others. It also puts barriers up like the Cherubim at Eden, and confronts us with physical reality, which is something that I have experienced people in top positions, or in in ivory towers tend to forget. At a hygiene conference, a colleague told us of the days when he was studying medicine, and how they dreamed of one day ridding the world of infections. He said it was sobering to now identify more types of infections than ever before.
A lot of folks thought that the steam engine and then the combustion engine would be the death of us all. Just look, at what a great thing we have done, produced a world with machines everywhere, running every moment of the day. The modern, convenient world, where if the price is right, one's life is right. But, it has come at an enormous price. One word. Pollution. AI will probably be a big help in trying to get our planet back to a sustainable environment for all life.
 
I think that every human being is mature when the end comes. Don't get me wrong. Of course all of us, including myself, ask why a child or a young mother or father have to die, but I am sure that these people are souls ready for reincarnation. You may disagree and I value this but I have come to my conclusion due to my own famlilly history.
Yesterday was a rough day at hubbys oncologist. Thank you for your post. I’m getting back up today and going to do the best I can. We really have so little control over our lives. Maybe no matter what we do if a soul is ready to leave then they will leave. Maybe I’m holding on too tight.
 
A lot of folks thought that the steam engine and then the combustion engine would be the death of us all. Just look, at what a great thing we have done, produced a world with machines everywhere, running every moment of the day. The modern, convenient world, where if the price is right, one's life is right. But, it has come at an enormous price. One word. Pollution. AI will probably be a big help in trying to get our planet back to a sustainable environment for all life.
Pollution takes many forms, some of which we are unaware of, especially when they occur within us. I'm afraid I don't think we're quite as clever as we think we are and that our lives are far more complicated and interactive than we think. Our awareness of biological interconnectedness is becoming increasingly complex, and our dependence on many of these connections is only beginning to become apparent.

Fungi are everywhere but they are easy to miss. They are inside you and around you. They sustain you and all that you depend on. As you read these words, fungi are changing the way that life happens, as they have done for more than a billion years. They are eating rock, making soil, digesting pollutants, nourishing and killing plants, surviving in space, inducing visions, producing food, making medicines, manipulating animal behaviour and influencing the composition of the Earth’s atmosphere. Fungi provide a key to understanding the planet on which we live, and the ways we think, feel and behave. Yet they live their lives largely hidden from view, and more than 90 per cent of their species remain undocumented. The more we learn about fungi, the less makes sense without them.

Sheldrake, Merlin, Entangled Life. Random House. Kindle Edition.

Are we doing enough to protect fungal life?

The life of the forest. Fungi
 
Pollution takes many forms, some of which we are unaware of, especially when they occur within us. I'm afraid I don't think we're quite as clever as we think we are and that our lives are far more complicated and interactive than we think. Our awareness of biological interconnectedness is becoming increasingly complex, and our dependence on many of these connections is only beginning to become apparent.



Are we doing enough to protect fungal life?

The life of the forest. Fungi
I love the way our understanding of the complexity of our world is really dawning. As you say, it leaves us all knowing that we "know" very little, and that we are still just scratching the surface. Having those inner complexes that you mention that are "hidden" from us is nothing new. We have always been ignorant of what lies in the shadows of our minds. Being honest and forth right about one's ignorance is one of the marked signs of maturity, as your your study of older individuals probably shows. It is in that humility that we could approach our future, rather than absurd archaic beliefs that have long been dead. Being fresh and ignorant is preferable to old and wise, for me. :)
 
It is in that humility that we could approach our future, rather than absurd archaic beliefs that have long been dead. Being fresh and ignorant is preferable to old and wise, for me. :)
Our ancestors were humble and in awe of life. Our (fresh and ignorant?) interpretation of the past has shifted our impressions, preventing us from touching the old wisdom that could be ours.
To be an elder, benefactor, conservator, and mentor calls for a learning about shadows, an instruction from the “dead” (that is, from what has gone before, become invisible, yet continues to vivify our lives with its influences). The “dead” come back as ancestors, especially in times of crisis, when we are at a loss. Then the dead “awaken,” offering a deeper knowledge and support ...
Aging makes metaphor of biology. The organic changes are a form of poetic speech, rewriting personality into character.
Hillman, James. The Force of Character: And the Lasting Life (p. 100/101). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
We tend to interpret everything from the perspective of the young, as though they have had enough time to learn anything.
 
Our ancestors were humble and in awe of life. Our (fresh and ignorant?) interpretation of the past has shifted our impressions, preventing us from touching the old wisdom that could be ours.

We tend to interpret everything from the perspective of the young, as though they have had enough time to learn anything.
I find often that the opposite is true. What has been passed on by our ancestors deep in our genetics still is happening, and we can get in touch with that. It is the old, wise, archaic, ideas that have not changed as the world around us has. Ideas that the old is better sometimes is true, but I find most often, that ideas need upgrading, and flexibility to encompass the constant flux of our world.

When we are unable to move about feely, and have lost our ability to survive, then the floor is completely open to fantastic and illusionary ideas, because they won't effect those around us. But, while we grow old, keeping our minds active and learning new things daily, and appreciating what is in front of us becomes more important than reconstructing a scenario of living in the past.
 
I find often that the opposite is true. What has been passed on by our ancestors deep in our genetics still is happening, and we can get in touch with that. It is the old, wise, archaic, ideas that have not changed as the world around us has. Ideas that the old is better sometimes is true, but I find most often, that ideas need upgrading, and flexibility to encompass the constant flux of our world.

When we are unable to move about feely, and have lost our ability to survive, then the floor is completely open to fantastic and illusionary ideas, because they won't effect those around us. But, while we grow old, keeping our minds active and learning new things daily, and appreciating what is in front of us becomes more important than reconstructing a scenario of living in the past.
That sounds like a missed opportunity to me, but you will have your reasons. I love having young people about me, and we live next to a junior school. I also had a lot of good relationships with young members of staff, but I have suffered younger people who are supposedly senior to me in the organisation I worked in, and I found them brash, arrogant, and narrow-minded. One found my "seniority" as he put it, objectionable. My deputy suggested it was because I was clearly more experienced and he had an inferiority complex. So that may make me sceptical.
 
Due to being incapacitated by Madeira's Airport, I can only reply now that I have left the stress of the situation.

Machines becoming "human-like" is a simulation or an illusion we are building for ourselves. We think we can weed out some of the human frailties by mechanising them, but in doing so, we take out the interest, the concern, the authentic gestures, the reasonable doubt, the genuine enquiry. My concern is that this could be the back door of eugenics at some time and the creation of cyborgs that resemble the Borg more than real people.

My other concern is that our flesh is a very important part of being genuine, precisely because it deteriorates in all of us, and enables us to sense the struggle of others. It also puts barriers up like the Cherubim at Eden, and confronts us with physical reality, which is something that I have experienced people in top positions, or in in ivory towers tend to forget. At a hygiene conference, a colleague told us of the days when he was studying medicine, and how they dreamed of one day ridding the world of infections. He said it was sobering to now identify more types of infections than ever before.

Firstly, I think we're veering close to things we can know little about. A lot of what goes on with AI is over my head. It's an incredibly complex and strange beast. Old ideas of modelling, and human generated design, are out of the window. I know one of the methods I've used in the past when working with a business is what is known as Human Centered Design. But would such a design suit an AI controlled world? No.

Having AI reach a human level of thinking, behavior, and acting isn't an end goal, it's a milestone. Humans are some of the more complex things on the planet, so it's obvious that using us as a mile-stick makes sense. But it doesn't end there. There is much farther to go in reaching the potential of the technology.

With all the naysayers predicting the end of civilization, I need only to put them to the internet of today. It's full of people living their daily lives online through Tik Tok, Facebook, and Instagram among others. There are people largely looking for recognition, "fame", and acting as though what they do has value. In reality, it doesn't. Young women are getting undressed and perform acts for cash in numbers never seen before. We're not talking about people from the streets, we're talking suburban homes. People are very self-centered.

I was discussing homelessness on another forum recently, and the guy I was chatting with was from San Francisco. He said the view from his home was spoiled by homeless people. I asked him what he'd done about it, but to cut a long story short, he didn't want to do anything himself, he simply wanted some authority to come along and brush all the riff-raff away. And not because he wanted better for these people either. Just to improve the look from his window. The homeless, to him, were closer to being street decoration than actual people. And the amount of effort he took to fix the situation was to post hate and negativity on Social Media.

Back to AI, we, as a society, are a long way down the road to an impersonal world where people live in their little bubbles in the hope somehow they can make enough to make even more Tik Tok's. What's in the video sells as "real life". We imagine that our adult children and grand children, let alone neighbors, are endlessly excited to see what you ate for dinner last evening, or what shop we went in. Let alone rants about just about everything.

To get back to an earlier discussion point, when the internet hit the industry hoped the world would be transformed into a better place. The entire library of congress could be put online. People in Africa and other nations with poorer education systems would be transformed, since they now had direct access to the materials they needed, the people best placed to advise, and so on. We could sell our old belongings we no longer needed and clear house, order music, and so on. We could share valuable knowledge.

While some of that happened, the vast majority of what we actually got was a continued lack of education, pay walls, and vitriol. Along with that, we got swathes of pirated and counterfeit products, the sale of street drugs, and more and more pornography. The music business as we knew it collapsed and was transformed into a situation where 1m streams of a song is worth a few thousand to the performer. Good has come, but damn, the bad drowns it out with wave upon wave of dull minutia. It's as though we've been born into a soap opera.

What's for sure is that development will continue, things will change, and people will live in the dream that their dull suburban lives are actually noteworthy of 24/7 broadcasting. AI is going to have to do the heavy lifting, because I'm gradually losing the belief we, as a species, have the backbone to do anything.
 
Firstly, I think we're veering close to things we can know little about. A lot of what goes on with AI is over my head. It's an incredibly complex and strange beast. Old ideas of modelling, and human generated design, are out of the window. I know one of the methods I've used in the past when working with a business is what is known as Human Centered Design. But would such a design suit an AI controlled world? No.
The one question that an "old soul" like me asks with all of this is, who is profiting from the progress? It is these people who are calling the shots, and the wellbeing of humanity is not really in the focus of people looking for profit. So, the architecture of the soft- and hardware is less my concern than why do these people do what they are doing? What is their agenda?

I use AI but I remain (as far as I can see) in control of what I use. ChatGPT, for example, has made so many mistakes when I have used it for convenience that I check what it is telling me. It also has biases and tries to compensate possible biases of the user. That makes it unreliable – not because it couldn’t be, but because we program these biases into the software.
Having AI reach a human level of thinking, behavior, and acting isn't an end goal, it's a milestone. Humans are some of the more complex things on the planet, so it's obvious that using us as a mile-stick makes sense. But it doesn't end there. There is much farther to go in reaching the potential of the technology.
Human thinking levels are, as far as I am concerned, thankfully restricted to humans. I don’t want AI to think like a human, neither as an end goal or as a milestone. I don’t want neurotic and narcissistic computers, or AI that runs so fast in a direction that is bad for us, that our end is happening before we notice it. Computers are just an extension of human minds with an exponential speed – and I mistrust human minds.
With all the naysayers predicting the end of civilization, I need only to put them to the internet of today. It's full of people living their daily lives online through Tik Tok, Facebook, and Instagram among others. There are people largely looking for recognition, "fame", and acting as though what they do has value. In reality, it doesn't. Young women are getting undressed and perform acts for cash in numbers never seen before. We're not talking about people from the streets, we're talking suburban homes. People are very self-centered.
You point to the internet, the source of addiction, mental illness, cyber-bullying, online harassment, information overload, fake news and misinformation, privacy concerns, online radicalisation, social isolation, online scams and fraud, pornography, and dark web - known for hosting a variety of illicit activities, including illegal marketplaces for drugs, weapons, stolen data, and counterfeit currency. It also serves as a platform for hackers, cybercriminals, and individuals involved in various illegal activities to communicate and collaborate anonymously. You give enough examples of the same.

“Full of people living their daily lives online.” No wonder that there are “naysayers” sceptical of developments.
What's for sure is that development will continue, things will change, and people will live in the dream that their dull suburban lives are actually noteworthy of 24/7 broadcasting. AI is going to have to do the heavy lifting, because I'm gradually losing the belief we, as a species, have the backbone to do anything.
The development will go on, unless people boycott it. There are already people realising that the most substantial aspects of life are gained when we escape and find solitude somewhere. In old traditions, it was the old people who stepped out of the daily rut and started looking for meaning who guided societies. I sometimes think that technological development was slowed at least in part because these old people saw the folly of wanting everything fast and free of trouble.
 
The one question that an "old soul" like me asks with all of this is, who is profiting from the progress? It is these people who are calling the shots, and the wellbeing of humanity is not really in the focus of people looking for profit. So, the architecture of the soft- and hardware is less my concern than why do these people do what they are doing? What is their agenda?

I use AI but I remain (as far as I can see) in control of what I use. ChatGPT, for example, has made so many mistakes when I have used it for convenience that I check what it is telling me. It also has biases and tries to compensate possible biases of the user. That makes it unreliable – not because it couldn’t be, but because we program these biases into the software.

Money, influence, and power is the driver for commercial enterprises. Competition drives a one-upmanship mentality. The agenda is to generate profit.

As for AI making mistakes, that's an interesting thing. It really depends on what is attempting to be achieved in a given instance (AI is being used in many different contexts). What makes me smile is that if the goal was to model human behavior, then the results would be riddled with mistakes, prejudice, and bias. In learning human traits, these things are going to happen.

Human thinking levels are, as far as I am concerned, thankfully restricted to humans. I don’t want AI to think like a human, neither as an end goal or as a milestone. I don’t want neurotic and narcissistic computers, or AI that runs so fast in a direction that is bad for us, that our end is happening before we notice it. Computers are just an extension of human minds with an exponential speed – and I mistrust human minds.

AI will indeed up end being a tool. There are already many things computers, robotics, and AI can do better than humans. I also don't think we, as a species, would be able to agree on what is good for us, and what is not. But I think the same kind of discussions happened with the Steam Engine and the whole industrial revolution. There's a lot of doubt, suspicion, and angst. It's normal, change is a constant, and we don't always like it.

Are computers simply an extension of the human mind? Hm. Maybe, I'd need to think about that. But how fast do we need things to go? We're nearing the maximum speed for copper used in CPU's today (for switches etc). I'm not sure what comes next, but with Quantum Computing coming into the picture, it's a little up in the air. I've read about quantum computing, but the more I read the less I understand.


You point to the internet, the source of addiction, mental illness, cyber-bullying, online harassment, information overload, fake news and misinformation, privacy concerns, online radicalisation, social isolation, online scams and fraud, pornography, and dark web - known for hosting a variety of illicit activities, including illegal marketplaces for drugs, weapons, stolen data, and counterfeit currency. It also serves as a platform for hackers, cybercriminals, and individuals involved in various illegal activities to communicate and collaborate anonymously. You give enough examples of the same.

The thing about the internet is that is has fundamentally changed society. It has changed how we think, feel, and act. It's influence is greater than anything else seen over the last 100 years. People now struggle to keep off the their phone (which is a computer), and computers. We're a slave to the machine, but not because the machine enslaved us, but because we VOLUNTEERED for it.

Let's not forget, every app, every phone, every PC, is DESIGNED to be addicting. There's a lot of psychology that goes into video games, Social Media apps, and the like. We've taken what we know of human behavior, and coded it into everything we use. We accept it. Humans, as it turns out, are low hanging fruit for outside forces looking to become part of our lives. And while Social Media is a cyber-activity, please believe that its effects are leaching into every day actions. It's grasp is way beyond the screen.

Hell, even on this forum you see some strange stuff. You see person A doesn't like person B because of something that's been written, or some perceived slight. But really, how well do we know anyone here? And if we're going to get so angsty about another member, then what does that say about us? I think it shows a fragility. People absolutely LOVE to judge others, especially if it's a negative connotation. But we're just names on a screen here, often discussing points in an abstract way. Perspective gets lost. I know I've had one PM that sort to psychoanalyze me in a negative way. I mean, really? How much of yourself is on these boards? 1%? :D

The development will go on, unless people boycott it. There are already people realising that the most substantial aspects of life are gained when we escape and find solitude somewhere. In old traditions, it was the old people who stepped out of the daily rut and started looking for meaning who guided societies. I sometimes think that technological development was slowed at least in part because these old people saw the folly of wanting everything fast and free of trouble.

We're projecting, of course. But I'd say, people aren't going to boycott AI. Already, the idea of old people being wise and informed has gone by the wayside. Have you watched social interactions these days? Heard children talking to their parents? Take a look at the political candidates who have traction - they're a long long way from being the best for the job. But look at the fervor their supporters have! It's completely bonkers.

I can't predict what the future holds. Shopping Malls are closing down, High Streets in the UK are being converted into apartments, and drugs ravage the streets. Not only that, but with Social Media anyone's bad day has become a Trauma Show. Endless numbers of people getting on Tik Tok to cry and scream about cold burgers, neighbors who moved trash cans, bad hair days, and fake cancer claims. It's just drama. People get a high from it, and they feed at the trough of dopamine hits thinking they're adding to society. Yikes.

But you know what? When the chicken comes home to roost on that one, I'll be long gone. Thank goodness!! But my main point is, I worry far less about AI than I do actual people today.
 
In the way privileged can mean special, I do consider that our generation is privileged in that something very special happened in our lifetime. We have seen the most rapid change in the history of humankind. The rate of change in our environment has been break neck speed. From Buggies to flying cars. From telegraph to computer eye glasses. From the pony express to the internet. We have witnessed the cultures that were distant to us becoming like our neighbors. We all have friends in far away lands. I guess it is globalization we have witnessed. It is really catching on now, and I don't think we will be around to see how it all works out. So, yea, I do feel privileged to have lived in this epoch of time.
 

Mr Stoppelmann, I know you worked in end of life nursing. I wonder if you've heard of or read this book review in Maria Popova's Marginalian weekly newsletter titled Favorite Books of 2023?

HOW TO SAY GOODBYE​

“Death is our friend precisely because it brings us into absolute and passionate presence with all that is here, that is natural, that is love,” Rilke wrote while ailing with leukemia. To comprehend the luckiness of deathis to comprehend life itself. When a loved one is dying and we get to be by their side, it is a double luckiness — lucky that we got to have the love at all, and lucky, which is not everyone’s luck, that we get to say goodbye. Even so, accompanying a loved one as they exit life is one of the most difficult and demanding experiences you could have.

How to move through it is what my talented friend and sometime-collaborator Wendy MacNaughton explores in How to Say Goodbye (public library) — a tender illustrated field guide to being present with and for what Alice James called “the most supremely interesting moment in life,” drawing on Wendy’s time as artist-in-residence at the Zen Hospice Project in San Francisco and her own profound experience at her beloved aunt’s deathbed.





Punctuating Wendy’s signature ink-and-watercolor illustrations of Zen Hospice residents and her soulful pencil sketches of her aunt are spare words relaying the wisdom of hospice caregivers: what to say, how to listen, how to show up, how to stay present with both the experience of the dying and your own.

The book’s beating heart is an invitation to grow comfortable with change, with uncertainty, with vulnerability, radiating a living affirmation of the great Zen teacher Thich Nhat Hanh’s insistence that “when you love someone, the best thing you can offer that person is your presence.”












In lovely symmetry to Zen Hospice Project founder Frank Ostaseski’s five invitations for the end of life, Wendy draws on what she learned from caregivers and distills the five most powerful things we can say to the loved one dying — “a framework for a conversation of love, respect, and closure,” rendered in words of great depth and great simplicity, like the language of children, for it is this realm of unselfconscious candor we return to at the end:


Emanating from these tender pages is a reminder that death merely magnifies the fundamental fact of living: We are fragile motes of matter in the impartial hand of chance, beholden to entropy, haunted by loss, saved only by love.









22 yrs ago I was holding my brother, Kevin's, hand as he took his last breath. Colon cancer killed him but took about 20 months to do it. He was 44. He was a great brother and always had my back. He and our other brother had one last fishing trip before we lost him. He loved to fish like Mike and I. I never regretted being with him at the end,. It was me and his wife and a hospice nurse in his own home. I watched the cancer just ruin his strong body. My dad and brother Mike could not do it. They let me be with him,

Dad is gone now and Mike is in bad health. Losing Mike will be much harder as I will be last man standing in our immediate family. I was luck to have two wonderful brothers. And our dad was a great man. Death is now becoming familiar to me and its not easy to embrace it. Im not afraid to die but do not relish losing good friends and family.
 
22 yrs ago I was holding my brother, Kevin's, hand as he took his last breath. Colon cancer killed him but took about 20 months to do it. He was 44. He was a great brother and always had my back. He and our other brother had one last fishing trip before we lost him. He loved to fish like Mike and I. I never regretted being with him at the end,. It was me and his wife and a hospice nurse in his own home. I watched the cancer just ruin his strong body. My dad and brother Mike could not do it. They let me be with him,

Dad is gone now and Mike is in bad health. Losing Mike will be much harder as I will be last man standing in our immediate family. I was luck to have two wonderful brothers. And our dad was a great man. Death is now becoming familiar to me and its not easy to embrace it. Im not afraid to die but do not relish losing good friends and family.
I feel with you in your loss, even if it is 22 years ago, and the experience of watching someone you love in pain and wasting away is excruciating. However, as you intimated, it is an experience that teaches us many things.

Of course, that comes back as other family members go through that process, and we feel in our empathy how relentless the process of life is. It is particularly painful to be the “last one.” I comforted the younger sister of my mother when my mother died because she was the last of six siblings, but nothing makes the fact go away.

I also see how my brother is facing an uncertain future with epilepsy, which came at 63 after a stressful career and forced him into premature retirement. Across borders, we had kept in contact, but he writes less, and our video calls have dropped off. We are in a time when goodbyes are regular, which is why the book MarkD spoke of is so important.
 
Being old *should* be a privilege. When Pres Roosevelt signed the Social Security Act, it wasn't only meant to keep elderly people out of poverty by issuing them monthly checks (and, later, free medical care), it was also insurance against unemployment; incentive for young people to find work and keep working. That's what he envisioned.

Would have worked much better if AFDC, disability, and unemployment insurance weren't all under the same umbrella, imo. Maybe if they were totally separate, us old folks would be living the spa-life at the end of a long work-life that Soc-Sec promised....and people would be motivated work.
 
Being old *should* be a privilege. When Pres Roosevelt signed the Social Security Act, it wasn't only meant to keep elderly people out of poverty by issuing them monthly checks (and, later, free medical care), it was also insurance against unemployment; incentive for young people to find work and keep working. That's what he envisioned.

Would have worked much better if AFDC, disability, and unemployment insurance weren't all under the same umbrella, imo. Maybe if they were totally separate, us old folks would be living the spa-life at the end of a long work-life that Soc-Sec promised....and people would be motivated work.
A huge problem with social services is that we have lost our sense of community and responsibility. In many cases, employers don't care about your situation and are not concerned about contributing to community life, and subsequently, employees disengage, too.

I was fortunate to run a retirement home where most of the employees came from our district. I appealed to their sense of community and to the community for solidarity with the elderly. It appeared in the newspaper, and we had a strong interaction, with people dropping in for advice, offering their services, and coming to our summer fetes. The Mayor told me that we had made a strong contribution to communal cohesion.

In other areas of employment, that may be difficult, but some employers have proven that it is possible and their employees show a higher degree of engagement.
 
I still haven't figured out what being old has to do with any privilege's I can think of. Except the privilege of the probability of dying sooner than younger folks. Thereby being rid of the suffering that is inevitable with getting older. Even that is just a normal part of nature. It is like saying being a teenager is a privilege, or being a child is a privilege. One could name any phase of life, and find ways to make it seem like it is special with attributes that other phases don't possess. But, to see one's whole lifespan as one natural progression, no phase is privileged unless we give it those kind of attributes. Nothing inherently makes it so.
 

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