Losing Weight by Cutting Carbs

The only way to get rid of belly fat is with lots of crunches, but I'm sure you already know that. But, I've also read that some people cannot get rid of belly fat even if they do 1000 crunches a day. The only way they can get rid of it (permanently) is with liposuction. Don't know if you hate it enough to have surgery for it. Liposuction is usually safe, but like all surgery, there's always a risk. I don't think I would bother myself, losing weight at my age is mainly for health reasons.
No amount of crunches or any stomach exercise will get rid of belly fat...They will only strengthen your abdominal muscles and build muscle...The only way to get rid of stomach fat or any body fat, is by proper diet and aerobic or anaerobic exercise.
 

Did anyone ever watch the TV show “My 600-pound Life?” I’ve seen people on that show that weighed in excess of 700 pounds. Definitely, the ugliest bodies that I have ever seen. I never know whether to feel pity or sorrow for them. There is no doubt that their being as big as they are is their own, but I know that when people become addicted to anything, it can be a problem that just doesn’t go away or is easy to fix. Addiction to anything requires serious therapy and hard work on the part of the addicted person to overcome.

‘’The show is on the TLC channel.
 

Did anyone ever watch the TV show “My 600-pound Life?” I’ve seen people on that show that weighed in excess of 700 pounds. Definitely, the ugliest bodies that I have ever seen. I never know whether to feel pity or sorrow for them. There is no doubt that their being as big as they are is their own, but I know that when people become addicted to anything, it can be a problem that just doesn’t go away or is easy to fix. Addiction to anything requires serious therapy and hard work on the part of the addicted person to overcome.

‘’The show is on the TLC channel.


Yes, I’ve seen that show...some have even died after gastric bypass I think.

The show is on netflix or Amazon or Hulu now too...not sure which one but those are the 3 I have and I’ve seen it pop up.

Also, even when these people have lost the weight, no amount of exercise will get rid of that extra skin and they need surgery...painful surgery!

Yes, they can hide a lot with clothes but it must be really hard to see themselves naked after losing 400 or more lbs.

Even with the gastric bypass many have gained back a lot of weight and I’ve also read that for some reason many have become alcoholics...

Best thing is not let yourself get to be that heavy in the first place....it’s a battle for sure. :(
 
I know 3 people who have had gastric bypass. One died of Addison's disease which they said was brought on because of the bypass. The other two have been in and out of the hospital for various reasons also attributed to the bypass. Very risky business having that type of surgery.
 
Also, even when these people have lost the weight, no amount of exercise will get rid of that extra skin and they need surgery...painful surgery! Even with the gastric bypass many have gained back a lot of weight and I’ve also read that for some reason many have become alcoholics... :(

Here in Tucson, the Tohono Od'han (formerly the Pima) are prone to obesity, diabetes, and alcoholism. I've seen some morbidly obese people with ''bags'' swinging around below the hips. I asked about it and someone told me that usually happens when you lose a a lot of weight, the skin is very loose, and the person gains the weight back. It's horrible looking WITH clothes, I would hate to see them nude.
 
Men have an easier weight loss experience than women for the most part.

I cannot count Calories. I have to watch carbs. When my blood sugar starts rising I get hot, Ive got to go pee and I get thirsty. Before I realized it was carbs i had been 90% raw food eater, juicer and once i a while a potatoe for 11 months. During this time i had 3 diverticulitis attacks in a 4 months period. Then went to my endo that treats me for hypothyroidism and told him how I was feeling. So it turned out eating plant based diet did not help stop me from feeling miserable.

Then discovered doc said was insulin resistant. So i went on keto only because my daughter says Mom it may help you. So 2 weeks into eating high fat low carb my joints stopped aching and my stomach did too. Each month after not only was I feeling better I was not having old people aches and pains as before. Since then ive never had stomach pains or ibs. It works for me and I lost 40 pounds since I started eating keto style. I do eat at buffet about once a month and they do have carbs in the foods but I still have to choose carefully.

I eat beef, chicken, fish, pork and plenty of green vegetables. Im doing well and so I will continue. And, I never have bread, candy or sweets. I do eat fresh blueberries and strawberries.

Everyone is so different. So not one size fits all. This is why I suppose we have so many medicare choices. 😄 im still in the selection process but getting closer.


Alright. Now is this controversial.

The way I feel about it.

It doesn't matter what you eat whether it's carbs or not.

As long as the calories you ingest are equal to or less than what your body requires.

Is that accurate or not.

From my Better Homes and Gardens published around 1950.

excerpt:
No diets! No fasting! Food makes us fat--It's as simple as that. Eat more than your body requires and it's stored as fat. To lose or gain weight--count your calories. A calorie is a measure of the fattening tendencies of food. By counting calories and staying within your caloric quota, you can eat everything an still lose weight or gain.
The secret? When you splurge with a high-calorie-content food, compensate with a low calorie vegetable or dessert. And vice versa. Then by all means watch the extras. They mount up rapidly and alone can account for a large percentage of your calorie quota.
Figure the calories your body needs just to keep in top physical condition.

1. Estimate your ideal weight for your height and build. (Most weight charts are for the average person. Large boned people may top this average by 10 to 20 percent, slender boned ones fall under it)

2. Multiply your "ideal" weight by 15. (your body needs 15 to 20 calories per pound per day)

3. In order to lose weight, reduce the answer above by one third. In order to gain, in most cases add one third. The result is your calorie quota for one day.

4. Divide your total for your three meals.


There is a chart included for calories and Recommended Daily Dietary Allowances.

Women- 123 pounds- Sedentary 2000 Active 2400
Men-154 pounds- Sedentary 2400 Active 3000
 
Invictus said:
No amount of crunches or any stomach exercise will get rid of belly fat...They will only strengthen your abdominal muscles and build muscle...The only way to get rid of stomach fat or any body fat, is by proper diet and aerobic or anaerobic exercise.

Correct. And fat cells don't go away, they just shrink. There is some loss, but they are replaced.
 
Yes, I’ve seen that show...some have even died after gastric bypass I think.

The show is on netflix or Amazon or Hulu now too...not sure which one but those are the 3 I have and I’ve seen it pop up.

Also, even when these people have lost the weight, no amount of exercise will get rid of that extra skin and they need surgery...painful surgery!

Yes, they can hide a lot with clothes but it must be really hard to see themselves naked after losing 400 or more lbs.

Even with the gastric bypass many have gained back a lot of weight and I’ve also read that for some reason many have become alcoholics...

Best thing is not let yourself get to be that heavy in the first place....it’s a battle for sure. :(


I also watched the show. On one episode, the doctor removed the excess or stretched skin after the person lost 3 or 400 pounds. He narrates it as he goes along and also after the surgery. He talks about all of the blood vessels that he has to cauterize. That has to be a long surgery, not to mention a long recovery. On one episode, he took a big edema (not sure if I have this word right) off the person's leg and it weighed 40 pounds (18 Kilos). Can you imagine carrying something like that around with you? That alone would scare me before going into surgery.
 
I feel extremely sorry for those morbidly obese people. I have to wonder who keeps feeding them, and WHY? Most of them are confined to a bedroom or something, so just take them some salad for heaven's sake.
 
I think like any addictive behaviour the people with the addictions have permanent enablers who would rather enable than listen to them whine and complain. After a while the enablers become part of the problem.
There is no reason anyone should weigh 6 to 700 pounds. It’s a lifestyle choice not a disorder.
 
Alright. Now is this controversial.

The way I feel about it.

It doesn't matter what you eat whether it's carbs or not.

As long as the calories you ingest are equal to or less than what your body requires.

Is that accurate or not.

From my Better Homes and Gardens published around 1950.

excerpt:
No diets! No fasting! Food makes us fat--It's as simple as that. Eat more than your body requires and it's stored as fat. To lose or gain weight--count your calories. A calorie is a measure of the fattening tendencies of food. By counting calories and staying within your caloric quota, you can eat everything an still lose weight or gain.
The secret? When you splurge with a high-calorie-content food, compensate with a low calorie vegetable or dessert. And vice versa. Then by all means watch the extras. They mount up rapidly and alone can account for a large percentage of your calorie quota.
Figure the calories your body needs just to keep in top physical condition.

1. Estimate your ideal weight for your height and build. (Most weight charts are for the average person. Large boned people may top this average by 10 to 20 percent, slender boned ones fall under it)

2. Multiply your "ideal" weight by 15. (your body needs 15 to 20 calories per pound per day)

3. In order to lose weight, reduce the answer above by one third. In order to gain, in most cases add one third. The result is your calorie quota for one day.

4. Divide your total for your three meals.


There is a chart included for calories and Recommended Daily Dietary Allowances.

Women- 123 pounds- Sedentary 2000 Active 2400
Men-154 pounds- Sedentary 2400 Active 3000
It’s not controversial at all. Calories in calories out is OLD SCHOOL and I know we are old but there’s new research that’s been out for decades proving that the less sugar you have in your system, the better off you are if you want to lose weight.

A person can starve themself all day long and have a sandwich and can of coke only a day for 7 days straight and end up gaining weight not losing; whereas the person eating a full low carb with plenty more calories will lose weight .

Why?

Sugar rises your blood sugar so you get a shot of adrenaline going through your blood. Energy levels soar and then drop which causes you to get sleepy and tired as well as crave more sugar. The sugar is hard on all the glands including the thyroid and adrenaline glands which get stressed. The stress cause excess cortisone which greatly reduces the body’s ability to metabolize foods and causes FAT.

Sugar then acts like an addictive substance and any starchy foods like wheat & potatoes are just chains of sugars attached so get used like sugars. Cutting out sugars and white processed foods will greatly reduce weight, greatly increase energy , greatly reduce pain and greatly increase mental clarity as well as better sleep.

If you dont believe me, try cutting out or limiting sugar as well as cutting out white processed foods for a week and see what difference it makes. The first two days are brutal but after that it gets easier by the day.
 
It’s not controversial at all. Calories in calories out is OLD SCHOOL and I know we are old but there’s new research that’s been out for decades proving that the less sugar you have in your system, the better off you are if you want to lose weight.
A person can starve themself all day long and have a sandwich and can of coke only a day for 7 days straight and end up gaining weight not losing; whereas the person eating a full low carb with plenty more calories will lose weight .
Why?
Sugar rises your blood sugar so you get a shot of adrenaline going through your blood. Energy levels soar and then drop which causes you to get sleepy and tired as well as crave more sugar. The sugar is hard on all the glands including the thyroid and adrenaline glands which get stressed. The stress cause excess cortisone which greatly reduces the body’s ability to metabolize foods and causes FAT.

Sugar then acts like an addictive substance and any starchy foods like wheat & potatoes are just chains of sugars attached so get used like sugars. Cutting out sugars and white processed foods will greatly reduce weight, greatly increase energy , greatly reduce pain and greatly increase mental clarity as well as sleep better.

If you dont believe me, try cutting out or limiting sugar as well as cutting out white processed foods for a week and see what difference it makes. The first two days are brutal but after that it greats easier by the day.

I agree! Ive always watched my carbs. When I had to lose weight after quitting smoking I did it on low carb...weight watchers has never worked for me.

When I don’t have to lose weigh, I still eat low carb/good carb to maintain.
 
I agree! Ive always watched my carbs. When I had to lose weight after quitting smoking I did it on low carb...weight watchers has never worked for me.

When I don’t have to lose weigh, I still eat low carb/good carb to maintain.
This doesn’t surprise me. You’re a smart cookie. :grin:
 
The only way to get rid of belly fat is with lots of crunches, but I'm sure you already know that. But, I've also read that some people cannot get rid of belly fat even if they do 1000 crunches a day. The only way they can get rid of it (permanently) is with liposuction. Don't know if you hate it enough to have surgery for it. Liposuction is usually safe, but like all surgery, there's always a risk. I don't think I would bother myself, losing weight at my age is mainly for health reasons.

I know this is a response from ages ago, but I need to comment.

I don't think it's accurate to state that crunches will get rid of belly fat. They will make your abs hard as a rock, that's for sure!!! But if you're overweight, or even if you're not, but still suffering from a surfeit of body fat (that would be me) all that crunches will do is to give you rock hard abs under and nice soft deep cushion of fatty tissue.
 
I know this is a response from ages ago, but I need to comment.

I don't think it's accurate to state that crunches will get rid of belly fat. They will make your abs hard as a rock, that's for sure!!! But if you're overweight, or even if you're not, but still suffering from a surfeit of body fat (that would be me) all that crunches will do is to give you rock hard abs under and nice soft deep cushion of fatty tissue.
I agree completely Ronni.
 
I also agree, Ronni. When I was in my 50's, I use to walk...A LOT...where I lived in PA. There was a lake that I drove out to and walked the perimeter of the lake. The terrain was very hilly so I was constantly going up and down. I had a very flat tummy. When I quit walking a few years later because we moved to CA and it wasn't a place to walk, I started to get a tummy back :( Walking is a great way to keep that fat off. I now walk again here in AZ in our community but it's pretty flat land so I don't get that workout like I use to. Besides....I'm 20 years older....haha. It's still good exercise.
 
The last time I posted in this thread was last fall, and I was at that time, not really losing much weight, but at least not gaining any. Then, my health care insurance stopped covering my thyroid meds, and my thyroid went out of whack again, and after that, I was just sluggish and exhausted all of the time, plus gained back all the weight I had worked so hard to lose, and then some.
Thankfully, I changed providers, and now have my thyroid meds again, plus supplementing with extra iodine, and now feeling better, and have started back on low carb eating again.
I have been reading about a zero carb diet (often called carnivore diet)and decided to cut my carbs even further and try it.

I joined a couple of facebook groups, and read some amazing stories, not only about weight loss, but also about health improving. I am intending to try this for a month and see how it goes for me.
I started this week, and so far, have lost about 2 lbs, and not having any hunger pangs to deal with, and only eating one main meal per day.
 
Good luck with your new diet HFL, sorry you gained back all that weight. Do you think that high protein/meat diets put too much stress on the organs? I think I remember reading something like that a long time ago. Just cutting back on carbs is effective, so I image the results would be much quicker and greater on the carnivore diet. Please keep us update on how it's going.
 
We NEED carbs, we even need cholesterol, the main thing is not to take too much of anything. BALANCE is the answer. Eating only or too much of animal meat is bad, meat produces uric acid. Like SeaBreeze said, too much protein stresses the organs. I've read that the ideal portion per day of meat is the size of a deck of cards, but Americans eat a lot more than that. You may lose a lot of weight by shunning carbs and eating a lot of meat, but your body is not getting the balance that it needs. Humans are omnivores, they are NOT carnivores.

Uric acids can cause gout, kidney stones, kidney failure
https://www.md-health.com/high-uric-acid-symptoms.html
 
I've recently joined several keto diet Facebook groups and am astounded at all the health issues people have reported made better or "cured", as reported by members, some of which are also using IF - Intermittent Fasting as recommended by Dr. Jason Fung, a nephrologist. Some people are using IF alone and lose weight -- I don't think that's the right approach for me though.

The conditions showing improvement or "cure" range from just lowering blood sugar and A1C to eliminating the need for diabetes meds and insulin, eliminating blood pressure meds, improvement in COPD, psoriasis, all kinds of aches and pains, symptoms of menopause, high cholesterol, kidney disease (yes!), ADHD, and so forth and so on.

What's exciting to me about IF is that it triggers a bodily process known as autophagy - "ought-off-a-gee" which is "the body's way of cleaning out damaged cells, in order to regenerate newer, healthier cells." It's a process by which a LOT of healing takes place - including removal of excess skin. Dr. Fung says that he has never had to refer any of his patients for skin-removal surgery!

So I'm all in for keto + IF.
 
We NEED carbs, we even need cholesterol, the main thing is not to take too much of anything. BALANCE is the answer. Eating only or too much of animal meat is bad, meat produces uric acid. Like SeaBreeze said, too much protein stresses the organs. I've read that the ideal portion per day of meat is the size of a deck of cards, but Americans eat a lot more than that. You may lose a lot of weight by shunning carbs and eating a lot of meat, but your body is not getting the balance that it needs. Humans are omnivores, they are NOT carnivores.

Uric acids can cause gout, kidney stones, kidney failure
https://www.md-health.com/high-uric-acid-symptoms.html
Very true but people can cut out carbs and increase protein without even eating meat and the result is the same; they lose weight
 
I've recently joined several keto diet Facebook groups and am astounded at all the health issues people have reported made better or "cured", as reported by members, some of which are also using IF - Intermittent Fasting as recommended by Dr. Jason Fung, a nephrologist. Some people are using IF alone and lose weight -- I don't think that's the right approach for me though.

The conditions showing improvement or "cure" range from just lowering blood sugar and A1C to eliminating the need for diabetes meds and insulin, eliminating blood pressure meds, improvement in COPD, psoriasis, all kinds of aches and pains, symptoms of menopause, high cholesterol, kidney disease (yes!), ADHD, and so forth and so on.

What's exciting to me about IF is that it triggers a bodily process known as autophagy - "ought-off-a-gee" which is "the body's way of cleaning out damaged cells, in order to regenerate newer, healthier cells." It's a process by which a LOT of healing takes place - including removal of excess skin. Dr. Fung says that he has never had to refer any of his patients for skin-removal surgery!

So I'm all in for keto + IF.

People should realize that lowered glucose does not mean diabetes is cured; there is no cure for diabetes. There is control of the disease, which is what they are doing.

I also have a hard time with that doctor's claims about the "cleaning out damaged cells" and never having a patient who needs skin removal surgery. Maybe none of his patients were morbidly obese, but skin loses elasticity once stretched beyond it's limit.
 
Very true but people can cut out carbs and increase protein without even eating meat and the result is the same; they lose weight

As far as I know, meat, dairy & eggs are the highest-protein foods. Nuts have protein but not as much as meat. So....how would someone increase protein without eating meat?
 


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