Star- Crossed Kennedy Family

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Another death hits the Kennedy family...... a 22 yr. old granddaughter of Robert Kennedy died yesterday of an overdose.

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https://www.newser.com/story/278644/report-rfk-granddaughter-died-of-suspected-overdose.html
 

That was so sad. The Kennedy's have been through so much. Of course other families have gone through very hard times also, Soldiers, Fireman. Police officers etc. Life isn't always fair.
 
That was so sad. The Kennedy's have been through so much. Of course other families have gone through very hard times also, Soldiers, Fireman. Police officers etc. Life isn't always fair.
The difference is: Much of what the Kennedys have been through, they brought on themselves. Ya know...alcohol, drugs, rape trials, etc.
I watched an interesting special several years ago. Their father (Joe Kennedy, I think) taught his kids that money is power & as long as you have lots of money, you can get away with anything.
 

It might seem as though the Kennedys are unfortunate, but so are many other families. It's just that they get publicised. Considering how many children Robert Kennedy had, they haven't done too badly!
 
goodness me' yet grim reeper strikes yet again on the kennedy family - what a cursed irish family ….
so pretty so young -- so very sad !
 
I really liked JFK, Jr. He was the complete man. I think there were times when he regretted his marriage to Carolyn Bessette.
 
It might seem as though the Kennedys are unfortunate, but so are many other families. It's just that they get publicised. Considering how many children Robert Kennedy had, they haven't done too badly!

That's what went through my mind, too. Other than the horrific assassinations of JFK & RFK, for an extremely wealthy, high-profile, very large family they've likely suffered fairly typical doses of tragedy.
 
That's what went through my mind, too. Other than the horrific assassinations of JFK & RFK, for an extremely wealthy, high-profile, very large family they've likely suffered fairly typical doses of tragedy.

Don't forget JFK's brother Joe.


Kennedy left before his final year of law school at Harvard to enlist in the U.S. Naval Reserve on June 24, 1941.[6] He entered flight training to be a Naval Aviator, and after training, he received his wings and was commissioned an ensign on May 5, 1942.[6] He was assigned to Patrol Squadron 203 and then Bombing Squadron 110.[6] In September 1943, he was sent to Britain and became a member of Bomber Squadron 110, Special Air Unit ONE, in 1944. He piloted land-based PB4Y Liberator patrol bombers on anti-submarine details during two tours of duty in the winter of 1943–1944. Kennedy had completed 25 combat missions and was eligible to return home. He instead volunteered for an Operation Aphrodite mission.[7]

Operations Anvil and Aphrodite
Operation Aphrodite (U.S. Army Air Corps) & Operation Anvil (U.S. Navy) made use of unmanned, explosive-laden Army Air Corps Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and Navy Consolidated PB4Y-1 Liberator bombers that were deliberately crashed into their targets under radio control.[7] These aircraft could not take off safely on their own, so a crew of two would take off and fly to 2,000 feet (610 m) before activating the remote control system, arming the detonators, and parachuting from the aircraft.

Kennedy was appointed a Lieutenant on July 1, 1944.[6] After the U.S. Army Air Corps operation missions were drawn up on July 23, 1944, Lieutenants Wilford John Willy[8] and Kennedy were designated as the first Navy flight crew. Willy, who was the executive officer of Special Air Unit ONE, had also volunteered for the mission and "pulled rank" over Ensign James Simpson, who was Kennedy's regular co-pilot. Kennedy and Willy (co-pilot) flew a BQ-8 "robot" aircraft (drone; a converted B-24 Liberator) for the U.S. Navy's first Aphrodite mission. Two Lockheed Ventura mother planes and a Boeing B-17 navigation plane took off from RAF Fersfield at 1800 on Saturday, August 12, 1944. Then the BQ-8 aircraft, loaded with 21,170 lb (9,600 kg) of Torpex, took off. It was to be used against the U-boat pens at Heligoland in the North Sea.[9][10]




Last photograph of Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. on day of flight, August 12, 1944.



Commemorative headstone of Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. at Arlington National Cemetery.

Following them in a USAAF F-8 Mosquito to film the mission were pilot Lt. Robert A. Tunnel and combat camera man Lt. David J. McCarthy, who filmed the event from the perspex nose of the aircraft.[11] As planned, Kennedy and Willy remained aboard as the BQ-8 completed its first remote-controlled turn at 2,000 ft (610 m) near the North Sea coast. Kennedy and Willy removed the safety pin, arming the explosive package, and Kennedy radioed the agreed code Spade Flush, his last known words. Two minutes later (and well before the planned crew bailout, near RAF Manston), the Torpex explosive detonated prematurely and destroyed the Liberator, killing Kennedy and Willy instantly. Wreckage landed near the village of Blythburgh in Suffolk, England, causing widespread damage and small fires, but there were no injuries on the ground. According to one report, a total of 59 buildings were damaged in a nearby coastal town.
 
Don't forget JFK's brother Joe.

Yup, Joe was the one the old man wanted in the White House.

They also had a sister who was lobotomized when she became violent. Back then, it was thought to be a cure for her type of mental illness, whatever that was.

Another sister Kathleen (Kick) Kennedy married a British lord who was killed in Belgium in 1944. Kick died in a plane crash in 1948, aged 28.
 
What possible evidence do you have to suggest that drugs or alcohol were a factor in that plane crash?

A co-worker who was a licensed pilot at the time of that crash said, "With all the instrumentation on a plane, and a pilot who is sober, it's hard to imagine mistaking the ocean for the sky."
Well, I don't fly & he could be mistaken, but with the family's history of alcohol & drug use.......
 
A co-worker who was a licensed pilot at the time of that crash said, "With all the instrumentation on a plane, and a pilot who is sober, it's hard to imagine mistaking the ocean for the sky."
Well, I don't fly & he could be mistaken, but with the family's history of alcohol & drug use.......

JFK Jr. was not very experienced as a pilot, was not instrument rated and was rated to fly only under visual flight rules. At the time of the crash, the weather and light conditions were such that he could not see landmarks or distinguish the horizon.

The FAA Airplane Flying Handbook warns of the hazards:
"Crossing large bodies of water at night in single-engine airplanes could be potentially hazardous, not only from the standpoint of landing (ditching) in the water, but also because with little or no lighting the horizon blends with the water, in which case, depth perception and orientation become difficult. During poor visibility conditions over water, the horizon will become obscure, and may result in a loss of orientation. Even on clear nights, the stars may be reflected on the water surface, which could appear as a continuous array of lights, thus making the horizon difficult to identify."
None of the official reports, by the NTSB or anyone else, indicated that anything contributed to the crash other than spatial disorientation due to the dark and the haze.

The report of the NTSB stated:

"The pilot's failure to maintain control of the airplane during a descent over water at night, which was a result of spatial disorientation. Factors in the accident were haze and the dark night."

The accident report may be accessed through the aviation synopses page on the NTSB website.. The NTSB accident number is NYC99MA178.
 
JFK Jr. was not very experienced as a pilot, was not instrument rated and was rated to fly only under visual flight rules. At the time of the crash, the weather and light conditions were such that he could not see landmarks or distinguish the horizon.

The FAA Airplane Flying Handbook warns of the hazards:

None of the official reports, by the NTSB or anyone else, indicated that anything contributed to the crash other than spatial disorientation due to the dark and the haze.

The report of the NTSB stated:

"The pilot's failure to maintain control of the airplane during a descent over water at night, which was a result of spatial disorientation. Factors in the accident were haze and the dark night."

The accident report may be accessed through the aviation synopses page on the NTSB website.. The NTSB accident number is NYC99MA178.

If that's the case, perhaps he was just overconfident. Or stupid.
 
Such a beautiful girl...too bad she suffered from depression. People who haven't experienced depression or do not have someone close to them who has don't understand how devastating it can be. Yet another tragedy for the Kennedy family.
 


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